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In post 1424, profii wrote:I believe by saying “I’m gonna plump for a lurker” means if you try and threaten someone - again you lose the effect

Also by going for lurkers, particularly at Xmas where there is a few scum can “randomly” pick “this one” imo

I don't think you'd lose the effect by stating that. Can easily rephrase to "This slot has been a null-scum/scumlean and hasn't contributed much afterwards".
The "randomly picking" thing can happen anyway *shrug* one thing I'm disliking about the mechanic, justifying votes in retrospect is pretty easy.

~A

I don't have a read on ultimate liars. I have a lot of null slots and can't read all the pages so it will probably stay that way till the list thinks out.

In post 1301, Xtoxm wrote:

In post 1298, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is it ok if I townbin all of (SS, Profii, TLK)?

why SS and profii

I get the sense that they wouldn’t interact the way they did wrt the exchange on that page as scum

VOTE: Gamma

There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).

But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours

The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Alonzo (2) -- Emperors New Groove, DrewVa
Ramcius (3) -- Gamma Emerald, The Last Knight, Nero Cain
BrightEyedFish (1) -- Nev and Max
RCEnigma (1) -- Theta Alpine
Gamma Emerald (2) -- Alonzo, Ramcius

Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Emperor FlippyNips, Something_Smart

In post 1279, The Last Knight wrote:By posting the VC, I'm just trying to do something that I believe is helpful for

the

town.

It is helpful for town and it is helpful to scum. You just got to decide for yourself which side it helps more.

and since I did the same to DrewVa with "If", I found an interesting semantic issue with this post.

I am very interested on why you wrote town. Your use of "the" makes me feel that you are separated from town.

But before we roll down the semantics road again, I know I know. But these things play important roles for myself and my reads during the first couple of days.

In post 1397, RCEnigma wrote:Don't know if confessionals are quotable but I've been using mine to gather my thoughts and the lurkers was one of them. The chance scum is in there is pretty good but being so close to the holidays it's not going to be my day 1 push. After the holidays is another story. Ramcius is leaning town, I don't know how aggressive he is as scum though. Thanos is on the scummy side of null.

Aiuro is just naturly scummy.

In post 1415, Thanos wrote:

In post 1412, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I kinda townread this post as I remember thinking the same when I first did ISO skims like forever ago. Also don't think Hebi takes on Drewva as scum knowing they can obv town.

Is DrewVa that readable? I have one completed scumgame with DVa but I think she's not at easy to read; I'll look up scumgames of the other head, any that come to mind?
DrewVa's posts seem to contain a fair bit of fluff, and their push on Ramcius deserve some scumpoints.
I don't see a read on DrewVa in your ISO, what's your opinion of that slot?

~A

In post 1419, RCEnigma wrote:Not sure on Nancy's scumgame, I think Dva can be crafty scum. Nancy does bleed town given the right conditions and agree with cheeky that Nancy is not a good target for scum to try and isolate.

Heroes Wanted, Overkill 1 and Halloween Dance. I agree with the above but you’d be surprised how often scum still try to push me. and they always wind up regretting it, not that it stops them, though.

In post 1430, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 1279, The Last Knight wrote:By posting the VC, I'm just trying to do something that I believe is helpful for

the

town.

It is helpful for town and it is helpful to scum. You just got to decide for yourself which side it helps more.

and since I did the same to DrewVa with "If", I found an interesting semantic issue with this post.

I am very interested on why you wrote

the

town. Your use of "the" makes me feel that you are separated from town.

But before we roll down the semantics road again, I know I know. But these things play important roles for myself and my reads during the first couple of days.

I don't want to go over the top with it. I've used terms like "us townies" in the last and got no praise for it. Why should it be different because I don't specifically claim town every time I mention the group of us as a whole?

Your argument is nitpicky and annoying.

VOTE: end the day

In post 1431, DrewVa wrote:Aiuro is just naturly scummy.

Thanks for that. It's expected that my playstyle would be found scummy at least on a tonal basis, but I'm currently focusing more on the scumhunting part of it than looking like how town is expected to look.

Is there anything my slot has done so far that you read as more scum motivated than town motivated, or anti-town?

~A

In post 1431, DrewVa wrote:

In post 1397, RCEnigma wrote:Don't know if confessionals are quotable but I've been using mine to gather my thoughts and the lurkers was one of them. The chance scum is in there is pretty good but being so close to the holidays it's not going to be my day 1 push. After the holidays is another story. Ramcius is leaning town, I don't know how aggressive he is as scum though. Thanos is on the scummy side of null.

Aiuro is just naturly scummy.

How much have you played together because it’s feally bugging me ha

In post 1435, The Last Knight wrote:Your argument is nitpicky and annoying.

But does that make it untrue?

In post 1424, profii wrote:It’s like when you say “I’m voting you to pressure you into doing something” - by saying that it loses its effect

I believe by saying “I’m gonna plump for a lurker” means if you try and threaten someone - again you lose the effect

Not necessarily, often it's obvious what you're doing anyway, but threats on a lurker are still threats and might scare them into contributing more.

I say might because especially with the holidays coming a lot of lurkers aren't going to be lurking for game-related reasons.

In post 1430, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 1279, The Last Knight wrote:By posting the VC, I'm just trying to do something that I believe is helpful for

the

town.

It is helpful for town and it is helpful to scum. You just got to decide for yourself which side it helps more.

and since I did the same to DrewVa with "If", I found an interesting semantic issue with this post.

I am very interested on why you wrote

the

town. Your use of "the" makes me feel that you are separated from town.

But before we roll down the semantics road again, I know I know. But these things play important roles for myself and my reads during the first couple of days.

oh my god please just stop.

In post 1440, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1424, profii wrote:It’s like when you say “I’m voting you to pressure you into doing something” - by saying that it loses its effect

I believe by saying “I’m gonna plump for a lurker” means if you try and threaten someone - again you lose the effect

Not necessarily, often it's obvious what you're doing anyway, but threats on a lurker are still threats and might scare them into contributing more.

I say might because especially with the holidays coming a lot of lurkers aren't going to be lurking for game-related reasons.

Yeah Xmas is an exceptional time

I think there’s a subtle way of doing it I guess - to be fair I’m not very good at it

I think I’d like to see the day finish before Xmas , we get to see some votes and such, those who like to read up get a nice bit of time to do so and come back to us with some analysis based on something a little more concrete than we have now

But I’ve no idea if that’s realistic

In post 1428, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Gamma

There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).

But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours

we scum read gamma for the same reasons, yet you consider me a SR?

In post 1443, Alonzo wrote:

In post 1428, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Gamma

There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).

But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours

we scum read gamma for the same reasons, yet you consider me a SR?

I will explain 1 more time, especially for you - I haven't seen anything from you to make an actual read, so you are null in my book

In post 1436, Thanos wrote:VOTE: end the day

Cute.

Will you stop freaking doing that?

You don’t get a vote in that.

In post 1437, Thanos wrote:

In post 1431, DrewVa wrote:Aiuro is just naturly scummy.

Thanks for that. It's expected that my playstyle would be found scummy at least on a tonal basis, but I'm currently focusing more on the scumhunting part of it than looking like how town is expected to look.

Is there anything my slot has done so far that you read as more scum motivated than town motivated, or anti-town?

~A

I dunno, your partner accusing us of scumreading “everyone”.

And you assuming we’re being scummy, rather than just wrong.

Also, you could be seen as being possibly lamist or tryharding?

At any rate, if you don’t get your partner to stop voting to “end the day”, I’m seriously considering policy lynching you, and this is coming from someone who is opposed to them on principle.

Lamees can’t vote for that, so please make her stop. It’s hella annoying.

In post 1443, Alonzo wrote:

In post 1428, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Gamma

There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).

But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours

we scum read gamma for the same reasons, yet you consider me a SR?

LOL you weren’t even in that game you slimeball

In post 1447, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1443, Alonzo wrote:

In post 1428, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Gamma

There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).

But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours

we scum read gamma for the same reasons, yet you consider me a SR?

LOL you weren’t even in that game you slimeball

did I say I was?

we have been playing together across multiple games for the last couple of months, across which I have had to read you many times and either after or during each of those games we have discussed why i read you the way I did, so for you to fake an AtE and act like you have no idea how I play or form reads is laughable here..