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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:22 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3627, mcqueen wrote: In post 3504, CheekyTeeky wrote:Mcqueen I have a few issues with your responses that I will pull up soon. But before I do - could you please talk about your read progression on my slot and Xtoxm?
~ C
Your slot is easy. I’ve disagreed heavily with some of your theories/reads, but I’ve seen you as pretty town. Your push on me is understandable, yet way off.
As for Xtoxm, I had a slight townread on him most of Day 1. Call me wrong for it all you want, but I didn’t like the fact that he was
never
open to using his Day End ability. It’s not that I needed him to end the day 24h early, but I figured at some point there would at least be some vocal consideration on his end about using the ability, and even that never surfaced. To reiterate, as one of my townreads (you) and after my other scumreads had fallen apart, I sheeped your vote on him late Day 1. I’m not arguing that my vote was good, ane Xtoxm can scumread me for it all he wants. I decided to reevaluate his slot on this premise, however, and came to the conclusion he was town.
Wrt to the post that DVa made, I am not currently scumreading you. I hard townread you for most of D1 and I particularly liked your rebuttal of Nev’s highly suspicious vote on us. I have doubts because you saw Flippy’s play in that towngame as similar to THIS one and insisted he was a bad wagon. So I have questions.
I am the most suspicious of N & M and SS.
@Nev and Max, very important question. Which head is Formerfish? Please don’t disregard this question. Thanks.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:27 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3621, DrewVa wrote:Had a productive talk with Nancy the other day. Liking Xtoxm for town after reviewing notes with her. She has a lot of doubts about S_S and McQueen but I'm still liking them for town, and she likes CD a lot more than me. She tends to get a lot more shook when one of our townreads gets scumread by one of our townreads. I generally don't get as worried about that but I am feeling pretty meh about some of my scumreads. If Nancy is right about CD town then I need to at some point figure out how to read Elsa this game, deal with the wifom around TLK, and decide whether there's a chance I was wrong about Karmy yesterday. None of which I want to do, so I haven't really been in a big rush to move our vote off Ram. Not really opposed to a Theta lynch today but Nancy isn't really excited for it. She really didn't like N&M's flip on us but I'm still trying to decide whether that's enough to earn a vote for today over Ram/Theta. We still have 8 days but I feel like the discussion right now isn't really being super productive and I know that's partly people like me that are just now coming off the holidays. If anyone has a really good reason to do Theta over Ram I'm open to arguments there but I still feel like I'm pretty OK with Ram for today even though Nancy isn't like super into it iirc. Also if anyone has ever figured out a useful metric for reading Elsa that would be really helpful -D
DVa, at this point, I’d bet money on Cheeky being town, here. You can’t ignore VCA and I’ve been mindmelding a lot with her today. Also knowing the difference between Performer ‘s scum and town games, helped clarify things a lot. So, if we’re still alive on D3, I will probably be doubling down on that read.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3647, Emperors New Groove wrote:Picking this post up.
There was drama and when they went to RoosterTeeth the forums got left behind so it was only a matter of time really.
Mhm. I actually used the RT forums from like October 2017 to around the time the site got revamped.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:35 pm
by Alonzo
In post 3650, DrewVa wrote:@Nev and Max, very important question. Which head is Formerfish? Please don’t disregard this question. Thanks.
How did this just become an important issue on page 147??
Why is sooo important now?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:33 pm
by DrewVa
In post 3653, Alonzo wrote: In post 3650, DrewVa wrote:@Nev and Max, very important question. Which head is Formerfish? Please don’t disregard this question. Thanks.
How did this just become an important issue on page 147??
Why is sooo important now?
FF was part of a scum hydra in DnD mafia.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:01 pm
by Alonzo
When was this? recent?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:02 pm
by Alonzo
And how would it be relevant to one head not the other?
And why cant you tell the difference here?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:19 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Not super recent.
Why are you asking this now DrewVa?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:11 pm
by BrightEyedFish
Seems like DrewVa is trying to dismantle the wagon on Ram. Shift focus elsewhere. What I would like to know is, why?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:14 pm
by BrightEyedFish
We are about halfway to the deadline unless the day reps end early. We should begin narrowing down the wagons. I'm pretty sure there are at least some others votes on Ram. Where do you all think other wagons are forming?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:22 am
by RCEnigma
Hopefully Elsa or UL/Kokichi.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:23 am
by RCEnigma
If your theory holds true then Ram resolves on it's own. So I guess I don't see what the importance of bringing it up was if Ram is going to be the Lynch anyway.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:32 am
by profii
are we saying UL for a reason or on inactivity?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:49 am
by DrewVa
Not too long agao. It ended a few weeks before the holidays, I think, before YGM iirc?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:53 am
by DrewVa
In post 3656, Alonzo wrote:And how would it be relevant to one head not the other?
And why cant you tell the difference here?
I want to check Ff scum!hydra posts with whichever head Ff is and that’s the only game I’ve played with Ff. If I see any parallels, then I will iso him in a town game for comparison. If Ff head is completely different here, than in that game, I’ll just assume that my hunch may be incorrect.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:54 am
by DrewVa
I just want to compare and contrast Ff head play, in both games.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:58 am
by DrewVa
In post 3658, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Seems like DrewVa is trying to dismantle the wagon on Ram. Shift focus elsewhere. What I would like to know is, why?
I am not opposed to the Ram wagon and I told DVa, she can revote him but Xtoxm made a good point and I can’t ignore that.
Our vote is currently on Theta. I want to be confident with our vote - as much as possible anyhow. Do you really have a problem with that?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:58 am
by DrewVa
In post 3658, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Seems like DrewVa is trying to dismantle the wagon on Ram. Shift focus elsewhere. What I would like to know is, why?
In post 3646, Xtoxm wrote:looks like ram has a serious wagon
i think him being the final vote on tlk for eod vote is town indicative
being happy to die is town behaviour
if the argument is that theyre both scum i find it unlikely he risks killing tlk d1
id also say tlk is the better vote in that case
i also thought his sarcastic confession today was mildy towny
@BEF
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:59 am
by profii
Do you get much success from that process? I don't have the time (read: attention span) to read old games I wasn't involved in
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:00 am
by Alonzo
FF be Nev here, as I said, not sure about max, but I think it's someone from the last boony game
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:04 am
by DrewVa
I thought Kokichi’s re-entrance in the thread was townie. He made it a point of stating that it was Hebi that voted us, so he isn’t sr us and I think that scum!Kokichi would not hesitate to have jumped on our wagon. So, I’m not currently interested in voting there.
Can you explain the case on Elsa again? Neither DVa or myself have a clue what to make of his recent posting.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:06 am
by DrewVa
In post 3668, profii wrote:Do you get much success from that process? I don't have the time (read: attention span) to read old games I wasn't involved in
I understand. Getting any metaread from a game you weren’t involved in, is very different than obtaining meta based on playing in said game and I was in that game - hydraing with MathBlade.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:08 am
by DrewVa
In post 3669, Alonzo wrote:FF be Nev here, as I said, not sure about max, but I think it's someone from the last boony game
Thanks, that’s very helpful.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:21 am
by Ramcius
Don't you think it's better to wait for Theta's replacement before lynching that slot?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:31 am
by DrewVa
In post 3673, Ramcius wrote:Don't you think it's better to wait for Theta's replacement before lynching that slot?
That’s what I told her, that slot is being replaced. It’s just a temp vote anyway.
Not being really clear on who is voting whom, is making voting actually more difficult than usual.
I just hope something happens, similar to D1, that helps point us in the right direction.