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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:50 pm
by Xtoxm
In post 3824, RCEnigma wrote:However, town has majority so if they aren't at risk of losing the ability It should probably be holstered.

I'm not sure if gifted abilities have to be used the night after received or if they have any stipulations but a vig isn't necessary yet.
im inclined to agree

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Did anything important happen recently

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:34 pm
by Elsa Jay
More grilling on each other. Same old stuff.

I like that this is one of the first times scum was hung day 1 and aren't being steamrolled, though. That's nice.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:35 pm
by Kokichi Oma
So. Hows everyone doing

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:18 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Tbh a fair number of D1 scum lynches are followed up with town losses
At least I think that’s correct

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:39 pm
by Elsa Jay
In post 3829, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh a fair number of D1 scum lynches are followed up with town losses
At least I think that’s correct

This just in, folks: the optimal scum strategy is now to get hung day 1. Statistically, you win more often if this happens.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:42 pm
by Something_Smart
I don't know if it's statistically better, but I'd bet that scum winrates after a D1 scumflip are a lot closer to winrates after a D1 townflip than people would expect.

I think the biggest reasons are that scum hung D1 are more often than not bussed and that just based on numbers town is likely to mislynch a few times afterward and that can lead to a downward spiral and loss of motivation.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 pm
by mcqueen
In post 3812, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3783, mcqueen wrote:Your push on me for defending EFN is still bad. I've explained multiple times why I did, but you choose to accept it as scummy and no other way. It's clear no matter how I respond you'll always have an issue with it.
It's scumhunting bro. I mean sure, there's the possibility that you are town that thought the EFN wagon was bad. I've defended scum as town before. *shrugz* It happens. But there's also plenty of scum motivation to do so and it seems like you mostly ignored the reason why he was getting ran up.

In post 3783, mcqueen wrote:But you made 5 posts on Day 2 before that happened, and others after, BEFORE mentioning me, only AFTER others moved their vote onto me. I defended EFN on Day 1 so if you really had an issue with it, something would have and should have been said at the start of Day 2. You're using it to bandwagon me, that's all.
have you even
LOOKED
@ those 5 posts? is part of my failed catchup and the rest are sparring with Ram. What reads am I talking about? Though is kinda important. I'm fussing @ Ram for trying to sway from the FN wagon. Do you really think I'd not feel the same towards you? And I think your incredulousness @ the situation seems fake. The rest of my posts were catching up from those 8 pages that I missed while I was MIA and still not talking about my reads. TBF, your job as scum IS to discredit me and you are doing just that.

In post 3783, mcqueen wrote:it's still a plausible case and BEF pushing it is possibly jumping the gun, but not dumb.
there's no correlation between the winners and day reps. Scum could have used their day rep ability thingy but that's just tin foily.
Yep, I totally "ignored the reason he was getting ran up." Care to provide proof of that? The reason was because of his scum!lurking meta, which I openly decided not to go along with. That's far from "ignoring"
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It doesn't matter if you were catching up. If it was that big of an issue it would have been said. Especially when it's only DURING the bandwagon do you care to mention my name. I don't care if you got on Ram for the same thing. Not once was my name mentioned and quite frankly I thought you'd forgotten about me.
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What do you mean there's no correlation between winners and day reps?? 3/4 day reps are winners!
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On that note, should I just keep lurking along with everyone else? I've read almost all of this thread and chose to back down. I'm not claiming to have the best play, but everything I've done has been vastly overexaggerated as scummy. Oh well, I'm guilty of it, too, with little activity and hard-to-come-by scumreads. Still, I'm just a damn townie.

My vote remains on Ram. I'm inclined to vote Elsa to rid ourselves of the Miller since we are closing in on the deadline with few other options.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:03 pm
by Elsa Jay
Let's focus on actual scumreads, then default to the "Murder the Miller" strategy, okay?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:45 pm
by mcqueen
Yes and tell me who the consensus scumread is ?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:54 pm
by Elsa Jay
You tell me. Your the one reading along more then me.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3831, Something_Smart wrote:I don't know if it's statistically better, but I'd bet that scum winrates after a D1 scumflip are a lot closer to winrates after a D1 townflip than people would expect.

I think the biggest reasons are that scum hung D1 are more often than not bussed and that just based on numbers town is likely to mislynch a few times afterward and that can lead to a downward spiral and loss of motivation.
Pretty much this. D1 scumlynch > town thinks game is on lock > town lets things slide > town is in a bad spot in whatever number lylo because no one cared much after D1 is the progression of events I seem to notice.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3834, mcqueen wrote:Yes and tell me who the consensus scumread is ?
Why are we focusing on consensus scumreads? Got none of your own?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:26 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 3832, mcqueen wrote:What do you mean there's no correlation between winners and day reps?? 3/4 day reps are winners!
I'm not gonna talk about this but HE knows what I mean.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:50 pm
by Ramcius
Not this again. It's not D1 scum lynch that loses games, but town being bad and thinking only 1 lynch at a time and not planning ahead. This game is perfect example, you got scum lynch D1, but now what? Game is stagnating

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:35 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3839, Ramcius wrote:Game is stagnating
Maybe the day reps should do something?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:42 pm
by Xtoxm
well tbh the lack of activity from town at the end of yesterday was a bad sign for this game

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:50 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3841, Xtoxm wrote:well tbh the lack of activity from town at the end of yesterday was a bad sign for this game
What do you suggest we do about it?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:37 pm
by Ramcius
In post 3840, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3839, Ramcius wrote:Game is stagnating
Maybe the day reps should do something?
I can place my vote again, but you'll gonna freak out, again.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:41 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3843, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3840, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3839, Ramcius wrote:Game is stagnating
Maybe the day reps should do something?
I can place my vote again, but you'll gonna freak out, again.
You are not the only day rep.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:42 pm
by profii
In post 3840, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3839, Ramcius wrote:Game is stagnating
Maybe the day reps should do something?
who is your vote on rn?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3845, profii wrote:
In post 3840, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3839, Ramcius wrote:Game is stagnating
Maybe the day reps should do something?
who is your vote on rn?
Ram

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:46 pm
by profii
do you think if the day reps ended the day right now there is a good chance of Ram getting lynched?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:48 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3847, profii wrote:do you think if the day reps ended the day right now there is a good chance of Ram getting lynched?
I honestly have no idea. The only 2 I know for sure that are voting Ram are myself and mcqueen.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:51 pm
by mcqueen
In post 3847, profii wrote:do you think if the day reps ended the day right now there is a good chance of Ram getting lynched?
No man, it’s seemingly likelier and likelier that I’ll be the one lynched.

4 votes was enough yesterday.