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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:52 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3920, UnaBombaH wrote:Especially since I think that so far neither of you has never caught me as scum..right?
Did you forget?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:53 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3919, UnaBombaH wrote:Karmeleon today.
Yeah fine.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:55 pm
by RCEnigma
Hmm, Una townslip. How bout those Day 1 Theta votes?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:56 pm
by RCEnigma
Fine with a karmeleon lynch, still want Elsa out tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:07 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 3895, Ramcius wrote:Mc is my top pick for lynch now, yo ucan say thx to RCE and Profil. I like how Profil claims to vote Mc and ends up with me/BEF/TLK as a scum team, RCE feels like defending Mc too - wants Elsa's lynch, or just assuming I'm going to be lynched otherwise.

My read on TLK isn't that strong anymore, cause I had forgotten that early SS soft form him (thx Una to bring it back for us) and Profil with RCE bailing from his wagon after SS claim (too lazy to go check times, but they were on last TLK's VC and disappeared in final VC)

So, Mc red flip would give us some juicy associations
I only unvoted after his claim and even that took some time since I didn't believe it coming from my top scumread day 1. So the soft claim case is bs do some leg work man.

I also publicly stated my vote had moved while TLK was still putting his votecounts together to indicate he should take my vote off of it.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:59 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3917, Cheeky Dancer wrote:BEF I thought you were town until I didn't.

Scum shade not to do 101:

"It's strange you haven't said anything for a long time"
"Are you still grasping to your idea"

~ C
Are you offended by my post?

It just seemed odd to me that you had very little to say on one of the main players of interest on D2, yet you have said alot about other things/players. All you said is that Ram was "obvtown" offering no more information as to why you think this or as to why the case on him is not valid.

If you really think the ram case is so pointless that you have nothing else to offer then so be it but don't get upset when I ask you about it.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:25 pm
by Cheeky Dancer
No I'm not offended just confused about you bringing it up specifically about us when - we have talked about Ram and I don't see how anything could have changed our opinion since then. Also the way you're phrasing your wondering looks more like you're trying to shade us than you actually being interested in anything we have to say. It makes me think that us attacking Una or possibly Nero has triggered you to start pushing us. *dear diary BEF started shading us when we were pushing on Nero/Una. Not sure what that means yet*

~ C

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:29 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3931, Cheeky Dancer wrote:No I'm not offended just confused about you bringing it up specifically about us when - we have talked about Ram and I don't see how anything could have changed our opinion since then. Also the way you're phrasing your wondering looks more like you're trying to shade us than you actually being interested in anything we have to say. It makes me think that us attacking Una or possibly Nero has triggered you to start pushing us. *dear diary BEF started shading us when we were pushing on Nero/Una. Not sure what that means yet*

~ C
I have nothing against your push(es). I was trying to piece together who could possibly be voting on ram (still working on this) and I just noticed that you hadn't really said much about it though you had been regularly posting.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:31 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 3902, profii wrote:This is a good scum tell on Una generally
What are Una's logic slips?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:01 pm
by Cheeky Dancer
Well BEF to clarify our stance on Ram - we have already agreed with the sore thumb theory - he could be scum however as we only have a sample size of 1 to determine how the dayreps are chosen then we would like to see if scum!ram is outted down the line when it becomes obvious he is the scum placement. For now I think it's unlikely for aforementioned reasons.

I also liked his vote on TLK so it's enough for me to try and find scum through scumhunting instead of unconfirmed tinfoil theories. If a new reason has been discussed to suspect scum Ram then you should present it again because we've probably missed it.

~ c

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:03 pm
by Cheeky Dancer
In post 3933, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3902, profii wrote:This is a good scum tell on Una generally
What are Una's logic slips?
Profii, I can't understand how you would say his slips are only obvious if we know his alignment yet not suspect us of being scum?

~ C

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3934, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Well BEF to clarify our stance on Ram - we have already agreed with the sore thumb theory - he could be scum however as we only have a sample size of 1 to determine how the dayreps are chosen then we would like to see if scum!ram is outted down the line when it becomes obvious he is the scum placement. For now I think it's unlikely for aforementioned reasons.

I also liked his vote on TLK so it's enough for me to try and find scum through scumhunting instead of unconfirmed tinfoil theories. If a new reason has been discussed to suspect scum Ram then you should present it again because we've probably missed it.

~ c
That's fair but I don't see it as tinfoil. There is correlation to day reps and BOONus round winners. If this fact doesn't hold weight for you yet then I can't change that with any new evidence but you should not brush it off as tin foil.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:27 pm
by Boonskiies
Havent had time to myself in over a week, guys. Tomorrow I’ll update all the day end votes like I have been and will be here more than I have been.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:05 pm
by Ramcius
In post 3929, RCEnigma wrote:I only unvoted after his claim and even that took some time since I didn't believe it coming from my top scumread day 1. So the soft claim case is bs do some leg work man.

I also publicly stated my vote had moved while TLK was still putting his votecounts together to indicate he should take my vote off of it.
Sorry, my legs are weak, I've skipped legs day

Why you don't want Mc lynch and why you dead set on Elsa's PL?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:42 pm
by RCEnigma
I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:49 pm
by UnaBombaH
Hmm...one of profii/CheekyDancer is scum. :shifty:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:50 pm
by UnaBombaH
But in all seriousness, why Karmeleon over Ramcius?
I would've likely gone the other way around.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:09 pm
by RCEnigma
The vote on SS claim, the willingness to hammer the SS claim, the possibility he is outed by the day rep selection process. If he's outed by the day rep selection process TLK is probably also scum so it's two for 1 and 3 for 1 if Karmeleon turns out scum.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:11 pm
by RCEnigma
I had a weird, grammatical moment there...anyways. yeah the reasoning for Ramcius as town all falls away if TLK is not supersaint and could easily be a scum play though I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:21 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3942, RCEnigma wrote:The vote on SS claim, the willingness to hammer the SS claim, the possibility he is outed by the day rep selection process. If he's outed by the day rep selection process TLK is probably also scum so it's two for 1 and 3 for 1 if Karmeleon turns out scum.
I second everything in this post. Spot on.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:27 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.
If Elsa is open wolfing, which wouldn't be surprising considering his meta, then this post from Ram becomes more interesting.
In post 222, Ramcius wrote:
And for second part, isn't it obvious? Elsa is my scumbuddy

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:31 pm
by Ramcius
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?
You think he's town, but you not putting any real defence to save him?

Is Elsa your strongest scumread? What about other people?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:37 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3946, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?
You think he's town, but you not putting any real defence to save him?

Is Elsa your strongest scumread? What about other people?

I think the real defense in case McQueen is that there is more information available that implicates you and a few others much more than McQueen.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:46 pm
by Ramcius
In post 3947, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3946, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?
You think he's town, but you not putting any real defence to save him?

Is Elsa your strongest scumread? What about other people?

I think the real defense in case McQueen is that there is more information available that implicates you and a few others much more than McQueen.
You say that and Mc is main wagon, hm, interesting, is it not?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:47 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 3946, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?
You think he's town, but you not putting any real defence to save him?

Is Elsa your strongest scumread? What about other people?
Well he's not as strong a townread as say, Bef or Nero. And if he flips scum well good for him, and maybe good for you. Probably not good for me because then I become a mislynch but that's another can of worms.

Elsa is indeed my strongest scumread. PP is next in line and then it's something like Karmeleon, UL, Gamma off the top of my head. There's scum in the active posters somewhere but I'd search harder after a flip.