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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:47 am
by UnaBombaH
In post 3948, Ramcius wrote:You say that and Mc is main wagon, hm, interesting, is it not?
Is MC really the main wagon?
Really?
We need to pile on one slot to overweight that then - I'll move my vote to Karmeleon right away then.
CheekyDancer should do the same ASAP unless they are already on him.
Meaning that based on the latest posts we should be able to get at least 5 votes on Karmeleon(?) and maybe convince others to join as well.

Elsa is a hard slot to read, mainly because I find it very hard to do the effort and actually READ them. :]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:50 am
by UnaBombaH
Alonzo has managed to "obv.town" mainly through wagon-analyzing, but should absolutely offer more in terms of gamesolving.
They have a good head, it's just that they seem to enjoy sassing and provocating more.. ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:54 am
by Ramcius
In post 3975, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3948, Ramcius wrote:You say that and Mc is main wagon, hm, interesting, is it not?
Is MC really the main wagon?
Really?
We need to pile on one slot to overweight that then - I'll move my vote to Karmeleon right away then.
CheekyDancer should do the same ASAP unless they are already on him.
Meaning that based on the latest posts we should be able to get at least 5 votes on Karmeleon(?) and maybe convince others to join as well.

Elsa is a hard slot to read, mainly because I find it very hard to do the effort and actually READ them. :]


Well, I have no interest in Karm lynch, I want something to work with

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:01 am
by DrewVa
In post 3965, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2604, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2601, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2598, BrightEyedFish wrote:*Do you SR me this game


I don’t know your scumgame but if you could link me to one of your scumgames, that would be awesome.

All I have to go on is Overkill 2. You seem to be sincere but I just got completely bamboozled by scum!Dunn in Excalibur, who I had been hard townreading for sincerity. \_0_/


My latest ones are Mini 2038 and Mini 2041

I can't remember the rest but on my wiki are all of my games.


You gave me the wrong number btw. 2045 is your scumgame, not 2041. Anyway, after reviewing your games, I now have a weak scumlean on you since in one of those games - 2038 I think? You were similarly tunnelly like you are here and were not at like that in any of the towngames, I compared and contrasted them with. Also, one of those games you played with Profil and he correcly scumread you and he’s also scumreading you here.

Also, there’s this:


lol's silence is starting to look bad...

In regards to the profii v dough, I think they are continuing a fight from another game. It hard to tell if they are disagreeing with each other just out of spite. I want to say profii is the scum of the two but I'm trying to be objective and not just OMGUS this time so I won't place my vote on profii until lolwagons comes back. But honestly I don't know if anything can make me pull my vote from lol at this point. ~ BEF

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:05 am
by DrewVa
In post 3899, BrightEyedFish wrote:@Cheeky Hydra

What are your thoughts on the Ram case. It's a little strange that you haven't said anything about it for a long time. Are you still grasping to your idea that Ram is obvtown?



lol's silence is starting to look bad...

In regards to the profii v dough, I think they are continuing a fight from another game. It hard to tell if they are disagreeing with each other just out of spite. I want to say profii is the scum of the two but I'm trying to be objective and not just OMGUS this time so I won't place my vote on profii until lolwagons comes back. But honestly I don't know if anything can make me pull my vote from lol at this point. ~ BEF


Either 2038 or 2045.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:32 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3978, DrewVa wrote:
You gave me the wrong number btw. 2045 is your scumgame, not 2041. Anyway, after reviewing your games, I now have a weak scumlean on you since in one of those games - 2038 I think? You were similarly tunnelly like you are here and were not at like that in any of the towngames, I compared and contrasted them with. Also, one of those games you played with Profil and he correcly scumread you and he’s also scumreading you here.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=77634

Here is a game where I tunneled Elsa as town. I didnt last long in that game but just to show that tunneling alone isn't AI with my play.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:37 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3978, DrewVa wrote: Also, one of those games you played with Profil and he correcly scumread you and he’s also scumreading you here.



profii shouldn't be scum reading me this game. Him comparing this game to the one you referenced is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:42 am
by Kokichi Oma
This game reminds me of the hero game

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:44 am
by DrewVa
In post 3980, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3978, DrewVa wrote:
You gave me the wrong number btw. 2045 is your scumgame, not 2041. Anyway, after reviewing your games, I now have a weak scumlean on you since in one of those games - 2038 I think? You were similarly tunnelly like you are here and were not at like that in any of the towngames, I compared and contrasted them with. Also, one of those games you played with Profil and he correcly scumread you and he’s also scumreading you here.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=77634

Here is a game where I tunneled Elsa as town. I didnt last long in that game but just to show that tunneling alone isn't AI with my play.


But even in this game you seem far more open to trying to sort Elsa than you do us and if I had no knowledge of your predilection to fake guilties, we probably would have already gotten mislynched based on the whole nonsensical “IF” thing. When have you made even the slightest effort to try and sort us?

I dunno. \_0_/

And what about the nearby identical statement, you made to lol and Cheeky?

Throwing the same type of shade at Lol, as scum?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:47 am
by DrewVa
In post 3981, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3978, DrewVa wrote: Also, one of those games you played with Profil and he correcly scumread you and he’s also scumreading you here.



profii shouldn't be scum reading me this game. Him comparing this game to the one you referenced is like comparing Apples and Oranges.


The point is, he read you correctly as scum in that game. The reason I never bothered to check those numbers earlier, was because I just attributed it, to you being really bad town but you’re actually much better at town, as I’ve seen. So, maybe your bad reads in OK 2, was more of a fluke?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:48 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3983, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3980, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3978, DrewVa wrote:


And what about the nearby identical statement, you made to lol and Cheeky?

Throwing the same type of shade at Lol, as scum?



You're right that the posts are very similar but I don't see how any of the posts are AI in either game.
In this game my comment at cheeky was based on the idea that cheeky has posted alot but wasn't commenting on the Ram case anymore and it felt strange that they kept ignoring it.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:16 am
by DrewVa
In post 3023, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I'm fine not lynching anyone on the TLK wagon today.

The Last Knight [3]: - Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]

~ C

In post 3308, Cheeky Dancer wrote:{Ultimate Liars, Theta Alpine, Gamma Emerald, Something_Smart}
{Mcqueen, Karmeleon}

I'm fine lynching in here today. Would prefer if UL/Theta were vigged.

~ C


Just saw this. Did Karmeleon’s vote happen before or after TLK claim?

And if after, why would it make Karmeleon scum but not Ram?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 am
by RCEnigma
Karmeleon voted before the claim.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:02 am
by DrewVa
In post 3987, RCEnigma wrote:Karmeleon voted before the claim.


Oh okay then. @Cheeky, you can ignore what I posted.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:13 am
by Ramcius
To be precise, no one had enough courage to vote TLK after his claim

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:17 am
by Alonzo
I'm gonna vote Nev n Max

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:32 am
by DrewVa
In post 3989, Ramcius wrote:To be precise, no one had enough courage to vote TLK after his claim


Still think that anyone on either Flippy or TLK wagons aren’t a great vote. I switched from Theta to Elsa but wasn’t sure, so unvoted him.

@Alonzo, what is your case on N & M? I’m definitely not opposed to that wagon. Very much disliked their reasoning for both Thanos and our vote and EOD1 BEF vote, seemed safe. Scum often vote unviable wagons which BEF definitely was D1.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:42 am
by Alonzo
In post 3991, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3989, Ramcius wrote:To be precise, no one had enough courage to vote TLK after his claim


Still think that anyone on either Flippy or TLK wagons aren’t a great vote. I switched from Theta to Elsa but wasn’t sure, so unvoted him.

@Alonzo, what is your case on N & M? I’m definitely not opposed to that wagon. Very much disliked their reasoning for both Thanos and our vote and EOD1 BEF vote, seemed safe. Scum often vote unviable wagons which BEF definitely was D1.

I'v found FF struggles to be as engaged as scum, and well Mala is producing nothing to show she's in the game at all. I'v been in twenty page newbies shes barely kept up in, let alone this.

Again its similar to the feels I got about Flippynips, I think the input could be related to the mafia role pm.

There was the slightly gratey back and forth with ENG earlier in the day, these types of interaction come frequent and often from an assured town FF, and as such I believe FF could be scum here.

Not sure about ENG / Penguin just yet, not feeling uber towny vibes.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:43 am
by Alonzo
and yeah... theres been no conviction behind any of their pushes you are right

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:52 am
by Thanos
Oh, Mala is Max?
That makes her pocketing attempt on DrewVa look even scummier to me.
Our vote's on Nev&Max, Lamees placed the vote there a couple days ago because she thinks FF is more aggressive/gamesolvey as town.

I support that.

~Auro

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:54 am
by DrewVa
In post 3993, Alonzo wrote:and yeah... theres been no conviction behind any of their pushes you are right


FF’s play reminds me of DnD mafia. One of the hardest thing for scum is to make decent reads and when McQueen I and pointed out that Nev’s reasoning for voting us made no sense, he didn’t try to reconsider or explain it at all, just threw shade back on us.

And the weird vote on Thanos D1, had nothing whatsoever to do with reading them but was a clear attempt to pocket us, as Auro noticed.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:57 am
by DrewVa
In post 3746, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 3673, Ramcius wrote:Don't you think it's better to wait for Theta's replacement before lynching that slot?


We should do the mod a favor and just lynch the dead slot. Who the fuck is replacing into a 150pg game on day 2?


Uh, this post is sooo bad. :/

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:00 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:Elsa is open wolfing.

Unfortunately NAI for him.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:03 am
by Alonzo
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=77614

heres one I played with ScumFF/ Lurker Mala end of last year.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:03 am
by Thanos
In post 2021, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 2018, Thanos wrote:
In post 2016, Nev and Max wrote:i just really dont like your slot and things that both you and your partner have said.

Mind telling us what exactly you dislike; so we can talk about it?

~A

not at the moment no, but the minute i can trust me i will have words on it

~m

In post 2022, Nev and Max wrote:so i'm not really "refusing" to engage. i just can not at the moment, but i will when i can.

-m

@Max