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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:56 am
by profii
In post 4516, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4513, profii wrote:
In post 2783, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:
Last Night Tomorrow FACTS!!!

Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
Just a reminder as to why Ram is scum.
over night i cross referenced the posts people on the RAM wagon made nearest to their timestamp on their vote... this was BEFs


So he is in my lynch pool too for day rep shenanigans and the above i think

Infact - I'll start off with a BEF vote and see how it goes... voting now...
You still haven't picked up on it yet.
apparently not :?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:56 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 4524, Creature wrote:
In post 4523, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4521, Creature wrote:
In post 4515, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4505, RCEnigma wrote:I'm fine with Bef as town. The logic behind his theory made sense. Lynching Ramcius didn't but I'm sure scum was content with letting him push that narrative.
The first 3 people who quickly threw doubt out about my Day Rep theory were:

Xt
Gamma
Profii.
Cool, is any of them scum?
Haven't decided on that. Scum knew Ram wasn't one of them so I could see my theory being an opportune time for scum to deny the theory for town cred.
I actually find more likely for scum to deny the theory if the theory is actually false.
Well Ram flipped town so they must have knew it was false.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:59 am
by davesaz
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
This is interesting but a couple points.
Precedence for day rep is someone who hasn't been one, and presumably night games also give precedence for someone who hasn't been in one.
We don't know if there is a connection between the two. Boon made a vague statement about it becoming more apparent and a bunch of people are doing olympic-sized conclusion jumping as a result. Nobody has acknowledged that in an all blue compromise everyone is a winner, which for 3 games could produce 9 winners at the extreme end of the RNG. If winners outnumber dayrep slots (all you need is a 2:1 ration in 2 games and 1 winner in the 3rd) there will be some winners who aren't dayreps. It's also possible for all 3 players in a game to lose, and produce no winners. Mathematically it means you can't predict how many dayreps are game winners. And it will get worse in the game when the night games produce too few winners...

We don't know if scum's ability to choose is limited to one of their own, or if they could pick anyone.

All the dayrep stuff is noise. Let's just scumhunt.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:01 am
by Nev and Max
Agree with Dave re: white noise re: day reps

-M

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:01 am
by Nev and Max
Agree with Dave re: white noise re: day reps

-M

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:01 am
by RCEnigma
In post 4507, RCEnigma wrote:Dave you've kinda been white noise for me this game, shotgun some of your reads. They don't necessarily have to be in depth.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:05 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 4527, davesaz wrote:
All the dayrep stuff is noise. Let's just scumhunt.
Where do you suggest we start?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:10 am
by Creature
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:11 am
by davesaz
Did someone say shotgun reads?

Thanos nulltown
Kokichi Oma scum
Profii town
Mcqueen weak scum
The Last Knight town if claim true, scum if not
Cheeky Dancer very weak town
UnaBombah dunno, can't read very well
Elsa Jay scum
Something_Smart weak scum
Gamma Emerald weak town
Xtoxm don't remember enough
DrewVa town
BrightEyedFish town but very bad or scum trying to manipulate, leaning toward scum
Creature jury's out, people say that he's beyond the "can't post as scum" meta which means you need to interpret actual motivation now
Nev and Max feels townish but weak
PenguinPower don't have any confidence on being able to read
RCEnigma weak town
Nero Cain town

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:11 am
by mcqueen
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:12 am
by mcqueen
In post 4533, davesaz wrote:Did someone say shotgun reads?

Thanos nulltown
Kokichi Oma scum
Profii town
Mcqueen weak scum
The Last Knight town if claim true, scum if not
Cheeky Dancer very weak town
UnaBombah dunno, can't read very well
Elsa Jay scum
Something_Smart weak scum
Gamma Emerald weak town
Xtoxm don't remember enough
DrewVa town
BrightEyedFish town but very bad or scum trying to manipulate, leaning toward scum
Creature jury's out, people say that he's beyond the "can't post as scum" meta which means you need to interpret actual motivation now
Nev and Max feels townish but weak
PenguinPower don't have any confidence on being able to read
RCEnigma weak town
Nero Cain town
how am i weakscum?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:12 am
by PenguinPower
In post 4499, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4486, The Last Knight wrote:This is a sad day for town...
Hi.

Did you like it?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:13 am
by Nev and Max
Can we explain the Gamma reads?

I’m sorta kinda okay with reading Gamma, but I usually can tell from his RVS since he tends to be very awk as scum in RVS

-M

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:14 am
by PenguinPower
In post 4533, davesaz wrote:PenguinPower don't have any confidence on being able to read
Why not?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:15 am
by davesaz
Because we don't have vote movement data, the game is almost certainly designed to revolve about effective use of night results.
1-shots can be reloaded, which makes it more important than normal not to prematurely reveal when out of shots.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:16 am
by mcqueen
In post 4512, davesaz wrote:Creature, I have a hard time believing you asked if a flipped townie was scum among yesterday's day reps.
That's the kind of fake townslip that scum like to make.
that was clearly a joke because BEF pushed Ram all of yesterday

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:18 am
by profii
In post 4540, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4512, davesaz wrote:Creature, I have a hard time believing you asked if a flipped townie was scum among yesterday's day reps.
That's the kind of fake townslip that scum like to make.
that was clearly a joke because BEF pushed Ram all of yesterday
That is a good point need to check something!

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:19 am
by davesaz
In post 4538, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4533, davesaz wrote:PenguinPower don't have any confidence on being able to read
Why not?
You weren't obvtown in the game I modded.
The one where you were IC. :lol:

More serious answer, not much background.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:23 am
by Creature
In post 4533, davesaz wrote:Creature jury's out, people say that he's beyond the "can't post as scum" meta which means you need to interpret actual motivation now
Hehe

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:24 am
by Creature
In post 4535, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4533, davesaz wrote:Did someone say shotgun reads?

Thanos nulltown
Kokichi Oma scum
Profii town
Mcqueen weak scum
The Last Knight town if claim true, scum if not
Cheeky Dancer very weak town
UnaBombah dunno, can't read very well
Elsa Jay scum
Something_Smart weak scum
Gamma Emerald weak town
Xtoxm don't remember enough
DrewVa town
BrightEyedFish town but very bad or scum trying to manipulate, leaning toward scum
Creature jury's out, people say that he's beyond the "can't post as scum" meta which means you need to interpret actual motivation now
Nev and Max feels townish but weak
PenguinPower don't have any confidence on being able to read
RCEnigma weak town
Nero Cain town
how am i weakscum?
Because your bones are bad?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 am
by Nev and Max
Snap crackle POP

-M

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:43 am
by Cheeky Dancer
In post 4483, Nero Cain wrote:
end the day
:lol:
your vote for that doesn't count itt though

In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?
I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.
Does anyone know though? I still don't know. I thought the theory about at least 1 scum in them was a decent theory but I don't know how we can act on that.
In post 4494, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 4486, The Last Knight wrote:This is a sad day for town...
not really
the game state is objectively good
3 useless town roles and scum pr dead
just need to get back to lynching scum
I wish we were scum, so we could pocket you, xtox. :lol:
Funny thing is, I WOULD say that as scum. :twisted:
Also, "3 useless town" ?? Disagreed with that.
In post 4498, profii wrote:I gave the sticky fruit to my loyal dude so hopefully they can give it to someone tonight to 'cop' someone

I also did something else but idk if I should out it yet... I'll let people decide and that
I agree with your 2nd sentence

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:45 am
by profii
In post 4540, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4512, davesaz wrote:Creature, I have a hard time believing you asked if a flipped townie was scum among yesterday's day reps.
That's the kind of fake townslip that scum like to make.
that was clearly a joke because BEF pushed Ram all of yesterday
BEF started initially with DrewVa and moved to Rami a little bit later

DrewVa and BEF shared a night game

That says BEF waited to find out about other night games as that info was outed later of course

So that means if Scum!BEF then at least 1 of the night games is ALL TOWN as BEF waited for info - I think this was a legit wait as he was one of the earliest Rami voters

Kinda doubting myself because I don’t think scum!BEF would fake the progression of getting to Ram after the info came out- if he did it was a clever ploy I guess

I don’t like that BEF essentially enacted a policy _all_ day so I think in conclusion time to listen to Dave and scum hunt !

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:46 am
by Cheeky Dancer
In post 4527, davesaz wrote:All the dayrep stuff is noise. Let's just scumhunt.
and where would you suggest we start?

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Also, I have some interesting news I feel like sharing, which could possibly help us. It's regarding the BOONus game.


~ P

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:46 am
by Cheeky Dancer
In post 4548, Cheeky Dancer wrote:It's regarding the BOONus game.
I find it suspicious that neither of the 2 other participants said anything about it so far....but ok.

~ P