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In post 7781, Creature wrote:I miss when we would scumhunt normally, not mechanically.

Yeah but you have a mechanical result, I can probably infer it from your list but can you just say it? There's really no reason to be so oblique at this point

In post 7783, Creature wrote:Jingle
Davesaz

Gamma Emerald
Xtoxm
DrewVa

BrightEyedFish
Nev and Max

PenguinPower
RCEnigma

Nero Cain

Obviously Nancy would include Nero

but yeah this list ends up basically looking like 1 or 2 names off Jingle's bottom PoE; I think most of the town agrees that's basically the PoE right now, which is partly why I don't get the people who SHOULD have results aren't outing them --i.e., you

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In post 7789, Jingle wrote:I'm trying to sort Xtox.

Jingle maybe you can get why people are reacting to you with skepticism when you spun out a wallpost on xtoxm as a mechanical lynch; I know I asked you wtf you meant, but given you weren't really ending that wallpost with "yeah but I still think we lynch {BEF,N&M} anyway" it made it seem like that's what you were actually advocating

Like maybe since you can just sort of rattle off wallposts you think they're no big deal but bear in mind a lot of players here might have took that as a sign you were getting serious about that push

-d

In post 7794, Jingle wrote:

In post 7464, Jingle wrote:Profii
Gamma Emerald
Xtoxm
BrightEyedFish
Nev and Max
RCEnigma
Nero Cain

Was what the PoE was. I'm mostly interested in the last 5 at this point.

To be honest most of this isn't unreasonable, I just didn't see why you were starting with xtoxm. But given that's the lowest of the three slots there I haven't been grilling, I guess that's fine.

You don't think Profii seemed town from StickyGate? We still haven't explained it but coming up with a push on TLK through a fruit landing on the wrong person is weird AF. Also, the SS/Profii "did you get the neighborhood" delay never comes from S/S I'm pretty sure.

With the doubts I have about the other slots I would also like Gamma to actually play more so I could feel better there, even though tonally I'm like pretty sure he's town.

Nancy insists she is the Nero whisperer, and I still want Nero to explain who he hooded because at this point I don't see how outing that information isn't pro-town for solidifying reads of him. That would also help eliminate the "Nero gifted Bulletproof Scum Elsa Jay an Ascetic Modifier" theory which is something I've wanted to rule out for like 4 rl days now.

Other than that, BEF and N&M seems like the PoE to be considering and sorting. I kinda thought/hoped Creature or Dave would have a result on one of the two tbh.

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In post 7801, DrewVa wrote:players here might have took that as a sign you were getting serious about that push

First of all, me walling doesn't mean I'm serious. I once replaced into the game and wallcased literally every other living slot. Walls are just part and parcel of what I do.

More to the point, what about repeatedly asking for towncases and explicitly divorcing my reads from the reasoning to lynch Xtox makes you think I'm advocating that lynch over solving the player? If I was convinced we should lynch mechanically, why bother asking for reasons to townread him in the first place?

Now, if you could address my issues with the towncase (there's no reason to townread Xtox because of the SS lynch, the post where you tried to prove Xtox didn't bus looked like textbook bussing) that'd be swell.


For reference:

In post 2389, Xtoxm wrote:15mins.
im on nips.
could move to theta.
its looking like a low threshold plurality lynch
5ish votes i'd expect, unless scum group on someone

In post 7800, DrewVa wrote:Yeah but you have a mechanical result, I can probably infer it from your list but can you just say it? There's really no reason to be so oblique at this point

It was thanos.

Dunno what the fuck a stickygate is. Is this the thing about TLK getting lynched for sticky fruit or something? It's been referenced recently, but my full read is about halfway through D1.

I can see Nev and Max being scum. I think I gave them too much cred.

That list was in playerlist order, btw. It's not tiered or anything.

In post 7740, DrewVa wrote:oh okay

did you get a result last night then?

-d

Nothing to declare.

In post 7805, Jingle wrote:Dunno what the fuck a stickygate is. Is this the thing about TLK getting lynched for sticky fruit or something? It's been referenced recently, but my full read is about halfway through D1.

Profii said he sent sticky fruit to someone, TLK got pressured about if he received anything and TLK said he received sticky fruit, Profii said he did not send the sticky fruit to TLK and no one could explain why TLK would have received sticky fruit short of TLK giving a panicked lie as scum.

Then since TLK had already claimed Super Saint, it was agreed Elsa would be second to last on wagon, and S_S would be last on wagon, since SS was the leading counter-wagon to TLK at the time.

Really wish we had you over Kokichi that dayphase ngl, even if you did roll scum here lol (still not sure you did)

-d

We got nothing else to do nowadays.

Meh, I'll just VOTE: Nev and Max

gg both of you played well

In post 7805, Jingle wrote:Dunno what the fuck a stickygate is. Is this the thing about TLK getting lynched for sticky fruit or something? It's been referenced recently, but my full read is about halfway through D1.

Here's what I remember about it.
Profii claimed to have received a stickyfruit and passed it to someone he subsequently made loyal. It has since disappeared. I don't think he has said who it was given to, other than to say it wasn't TLK.

In post 7808, davesaz wrote:Nothing to declare.

I'm considering activating ourselves today just so we can send you a charge

I'd kinda rather that than having you in the boonus room and having to guess what you picked

-d

Question:

Does Stickyfruit Vendor continue to be able to vend stickyfruit or is it one shot?

Like say Player A is SFVendor.

N1 Player A targets Player B.
N2 Player B targets Player C.
N2 Player A targets Player D.

Is this a viable chain of events?

If so, SFVendor probably won a Boonus N1.

In post 7811, Creature wrote:Meh, I'll just VOTE: Nev and Max

you feeling good about doing this slot over elsa today?

-d

In post 7804, Creature wrote:

In post 7800, DrewVa wrote:Yeah but you have a mechanical result, I can probably infer it from your list but can you just say it? There's really no reason to be so oblique at this point

It was thanos.

If this is a "no result" which clears Thanos (other than ascetic or roleblock shenanigans) then I agree that N&M are likely scum who didn't want to give either town in the room a +1.

In post 7809, DrewVa wrote:Really wish we had you over Kokichi that dayphase ngl, even if you did roll scum here lol (still not sure you did)

Not scum. Also, you almost did. Boon asked me to play from the start, but I was a little busy when the game was in signups.

In post 7814, DrewVa wrote:

In post 7808, davesaz wrote:Nothing to declare.

I'm considering activating ourselves today just so we can send you a charge

I'd kinda rather that than having you in the boonus room and having to guess what you picked

-d

I kinda feel insulted by that. But it's a town thing to say.

In post 7816, DrewVa wrote:

In post 7811, Creature wrote:Meh, I'll just VOTE: Nev and Max

you feeling good about doing this slot over elsa today?

-d

I 100 percent agree with this message, purely because I find it hilarious thar my scummy behavior netted in 2 scum for the price of McQueen.

VOTE: Nev and Max

In either case the BOONus game has to also work out with the right winners.
I'll accept gifted charges that don't carry a useless / damaging modifier.

In post 7814, DrewVa wrote:

In post 7808, davesaz wrote:Nothing to declare.

I'm considering activating ourselves today just so we can send you a charge

I'd kinda rather that than having you in the boonus room and having to guess what you picked

-d

This. The people in the Boonus rounds shouldn't necessarily be the people getting the charges. Removing the person using the charge from the choice of modifiers adds another level of accountability and accountability is protown. If dave/creat/profii end up in Boonus, they should cross gift with someone else in their room (or give their shot to a third party and be given a shot by the people in their room.)

In post 7816, DrewVa wrote:

In post 7811, Creature wrote:Meh, I'll just VOTE: Nev and Max

you feeling good about doing this slot over elsa today?

-d

Why is Elsa scum again?

As far as I'm concerned, you should always activate yourselves.