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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:09 pm
by Nero Cain
I'm not voting N+M without further protection claims.

Nancy, you are passing on Elsa b/c Creature says he targeted him with something. I'd ask you about Creature (who I'm also not town reading) but they are tied up Elsa so I'm sure thats a no for you. Wut about Jingle?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:11 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 8199, Thanos wrote:So Creature:
N2 targeted EJ
N3 targeted Una
N4 targeted me

And got "no result" all the time?
Wow. He's targeted all my scum reads sans you. Is a Creature/EJ/Una team too simple?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8198, Thanos wrote:Stupid question: what would a disloyal action on an Ascetic return?
No results, I imagine - irrespective of alignment, so it obviously only works on slots that aren’t asetic, commute or rolestopped, or the player with the disloyal isn’t roleblocked. Based on TLK inexplicably receiving the sticky fruit, there’s also the possibility of some form of redirect.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:15 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8199, Thanos wrote:So Creature:
N2 targeted EJ
N3 targeted Una
N4 targeted me

And got "no result" all the time?
Btw, Nancy what's your Creature read here?
Apparently.

I think Creature’s definitely town here.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8200, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not voting N+M without further protection claims.

Nancy, you are passing on Elsa b/c Creature says he targeted him with something. I'd ask you about Creature (who I'm also not town reading) but they are tied up Elsa so I'm sure thats a no for you. Wut about Jingle?
Dave also claims to have a disloyal on Elsa.

I dunno about Jingle. We are definitely suspicious of him but probably don’t want to vote there today.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8204, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8200, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not voting N+M without further protection claims.

Nancy, you are passing on Elsa b/c Creature says he targeted him with something. I'd ask you about Creature (who I'm also not town reading) but they are tied up Elsa so I'm sure thats a no for you. Wut about Jingle?
Dave also claims to have a disloyal on Elsa.

I dunno about Jingle. We are definitely suspicious of him but probably don’t want to vote there today.
No, we haven’t towncleared Elsa.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:21 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 8201, Nero Cain wrote:Is a Creature/EJ/Una team too simple?
I'd argue it would be overly complicated. :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:32 pm
by UnaBombaH
Why was I called dumbdumb D2 when I argued at least one of Ramcius/Creature is scum?
If anyone is softing suspicions towards Creature NOW, after I have let go of that tunnel... :igmeou:

I'm thinking it should be easier to find exactly three scum, than it would be to find "~three" scum.
I'm also thinking I'll return to my first colored post with the EoD1 wagons with all the flips we now have.
There has to be something there.

Think about it - even scum couldn't have felt too confident/certain about how D1 was going to end.
I think they were more or less bound to "show up" in the final VC. :]

Also still thinking about that whole dayrep thing (although not as much and intensely as BEF is).
I'm willing to bank my Duckyness on scum not knowing their ability to pick a dayrep was gonna get outed.
And IF they didn't know it was ever gonna be outed, THEN they would've def. picked one D2.

Also scanning S_S's ISOs so sassily..shit is surely somehow supporting my assessments.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:40 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 8163, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8155, Xtoxm wrote:do you think macho modifiers exist in this game just to negate a bunyip and a scum JK?
It is very likely there is another town protective that has yet to claim.

-d
Are we considering the sticky fruit as a protective?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:46 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in:
Alonzo [12/26, 18:53]
, DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53],
Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]

Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
I uncolored the two unflipped players from here.
Still thinking it would be a bus to remember if we have two scum in Xtoxm/DrewVa, so leaning still leaning both town or what I said before..
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.
:]
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:Assuming there's a daytalk for scum, I'd say TWO scum in either of the two other wagons.
Karmeleon
Creature [12/19, 08:19]
,
Emperors New Groove
PenguinPower [12/24, 08:34]
,
Ramcius
[12/24, 11:45]
...so with the flip/replacements we've had since..it was Creature after all? Or just Penguin. Or both of them. :lol:
In post 2400, Boonskiies wrote:
Theta Alpine
UnaBombaH
[3]: -
Almost Chara [12/27, 14:50]
,
Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41]
,
The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
This wagon also feels simple enough after a few days of playing.. :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:47 pm
by DrewVa
In post 2403, Boonskiies wrote:
Day 2 Representatives
These 4 people will be responsible for ending the day phase. They just have to vote to end the day. When 3 of the 4 of them do, the day will end, or whenever the countdown times out. Plurality Lynch Rule applies, meaning whoever has the most votes at the end of the day, will be the lynch. You will vote within your private thread. Good luck, and have fun.


Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa)
Karmeleon

(expired on 2019-01-14 18:00:00)
on
January 14th, 2019.
Una, the other 3 of us won prizes in the BOONus round. If scum had that ability, why wouldn’t they have known about it on D1? So, they would then have to know that they wouldn’t be anonymous, right? And that suspicion would thereby fall on any slot in there who didn’t win a prize? And it’s only now that Boon tells us, that one of the slots is always random. So, I guess, if you have more than one unexplained slot -
more than one who wasn’t in the round who didn’t win a prize
but what I’m wondering is if, scum could, possibly frame a slot as well by selecting them over a scummate?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:48 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8208, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8163, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8155, Xtoxm wrote:do you think macho modifiers exist in this game just to negate a bunyip and a scum JK?
It is very likely there is another town protective that has yet to claim.

-d
Are we considering the sticky fruit as a protective?
Didn’t that die with TLK?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:49 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool of Ultimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa.
One of the six who was on these three is the remaining scum.
Something_Smart was on Xtoxm, fitting the above.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:51 pm
by UnaBombaH
...meaning that it's quite reasonable to think that scum were trying to coordinate a lynch on Theta/TLK D1.

So Elsa/Creature/PenguinPowaH are all back on the plate for me. :]

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:52 pm
by Nero Cain
i like how Una just colored Elsa red.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:53 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2402, Boonskiies wrote:Welcome,
Almost Chara
, you are a
Town 1-shot Visitor
.
..but this makes a lot of sense.
They didn't get to do much D1, but I'd argue this slot would've likely been the strongest town-presence and leader in the coming days if left alive.
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
Didn't know this.
I wonder if scum knew it from the start of the game, or if they were told last night.
But I'd bet a lot of MafiaScum-dollars saying that they chose one of themselves to be a Day Rep today.
Simply because they couldn't have foreseen Boon sharing this info with us at the start of the day, meaning that they thought there would be no downside to it. :]

So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in: Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]

Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.

Assuming there's a daytalk for scum, I'd say TWO scum in either of the two other wagons.
Karmeleon
[12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34],
Ramcius
[12/24, 11:45]
This would also fit my previous reads perfectly.

Based on my reads btw, this second line is quite useful as well. :]
Almost Chara
[12/27, 14:50],
Elsa Jay
[12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Almost Chara actually flipped town, and I'm thinking Elsa...should?...be townread for now.
The one I didn't green out is TLK, but consider scum!TLK.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT BOTH RAMCIUS AND KARMELEON WERE ON THEIR TEAMMATE CLOSE TO THE END OF D1.

That makes no sense. (since in this game scum have no idea who is ACTUALLY the leading wagon until the list drops. I doubt they'd go for a hard buss on scum!TLK WHEN ANOTHER BUDDY WAS LIKELY THE OTHER LEADING WAGON.)

So I'm actually willing to say town!TLK -> the designated mislynch for scum D1.
So what follows, is that we are looking for
Ramcius + Karmeleon +
one in...the remaining wagons with all 2 votes in them. :lol:
We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool of
Ultimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa
.
One of the six who was on these three is the remaining scum. :]

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:55 pm
by DrewVa
In post 2400, Boonskiies wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

The time is based off of California time, or -8:00, month first, then day.


Emperor flippyNips [4]:
- Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48] ------
[LYNCH]

The Last Knight [3]:
- Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]
Theta Alpine[3]:
- Almost Chara [12/27, 14:50], Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Ultimate Liars (Kokichi Oma/Hebichan) [2]:
- davesaz [12/18, 08:56], Thanos [12/22, 12:53]
Xtoxm [2]:
- Mcqueen [12/28, 16:08], Something_Smart [12/28, 16:09]
DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa) [2]:
- Ultimate Liars [12/15, 22:02], BrightEyedFish [12/28, 00:23]
Ramcius [2]:
- Gamma Emerald [12/19, 12:37], Nero Cain [12/27, 14:52]
Profii [1]:
- RCEnigma [12/20, 17:19],
BrightEyedFish [1]:
- Nev and max [12/16, 16:58]
RCEnigma [1]:
- Theta Alpine [12/18, 07:59]
Elsa Jay [1]:
- Profii [12/28, 17:01]

Not Voting [1]:
Emperor flippyNips

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:57 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 8210, DrewVa wrote:If scum had that ability, why wouldn’t they have known about it on D1? So, they would then have to know that they wouldn’t be anonymous, right? And that suspicion would thereby fall on any slot in there who didn’t win a prize? And it’s only now that Boon tells us, that one of the slots is always random.
Huh.
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick
one of themselves as a Day Rep
?
+
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:They don't have to use this ability, but
starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
They likely didn't know how the dayreps are selected.
They likely thought they could just blend in with the randomness.
They likely didn't know Boon would yell their ability out loud the next day.
I mean,
IN HOW MANY GAMES DOES THE MOD REVEAL SCUMTEAMS ABILITIES AT THE START OF THE DAY AFTER GIVING IT TO THEM?
:lol:

And to anyone saying it's not "powerful" to be a dayrep, I call bs.
Scum should be seeking to use any "power" available to them.
Being a dayrep...well, It's still power to manipulate, drive an agenda, tell a narrative. Potray as a "teamplayer" by "not hammering until we are all sure" etc etc.
I'm not expecting a scum!dayrep would just end day because they can. :yawn:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:57 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 8214, Nero Cain wrote:i like how Una just colored Elsa red.
..it's in her blood.. :shifty:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:59 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8216, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2400, Boonskiies wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

The time is based off of California time, or -8:00, month first, then day.


Emperor flippyNips [4]:
- Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48] ------
[LYNCH]

The Last Knight [3]:
- Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]
Theta Alpine[3]:
- Almost Chara [12/27, 14:50], Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Ultimate Liars (Kokichi Oma/Hebichan) [2]:
- davesaz [12/18, 08:56], Thanos [12/22, 12:53]
Xtoxm [2]:
- Mcqueen [12/28, 16:08], Something_Smart [12/28, 16:09]
DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa) [2]:
- Ultimate Liars [12/15, 22:02], BrightEyedFish [12/28, 00:23]
Ramcius [2]:
- Gamma Emerald [12/19, 12:37], Nero Cain [12/27, 14:52]
Profii [1]:
- RCEnigma [12/20, 17:19],
BrightEyedFish [1]:
- Nev and max [12/16, 16:58]
RCEnigma [1]:
- Theta Alpine [12/18, 07:59]
Elsa Jay [1]:
- Profii [12/28, 17:01]

Not Voting [1]:
Emperor flippyNips
According to your theory Una, that would make Dave and BEF the scumteam because Creature has used a disloyal on Thanos. Not sure how votes on UL fit into this, however?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 8211, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8208, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8163, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8155, Xtoxm wrote:do you think macho modifiers exist in this game just to negate a bunyip and a scum JK?
It is very likely there is another town protective that has yet to claim.

-d
Are we considering the sticky fruit as a protective?
Didn’t that die with TLK?
Supposedly, but I was talking in general.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:02 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 8214, Nero Cain wrote:i like how Una just colored Elsa red.
This also pleases me.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:02 pm
by BrightEyedFish
Also, the fruit vendor is still alive and could possibly win a +1 or be gifted an extra charge.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:05 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 8219, DrewVa wrote:According to your theory Una, that would make Dave and BEF the scumteam because Creature has used a disloyal on Thanos.
Huh? :?
How does "Creature using a disloyal on Thanos" make
A) Creature town?
B) Dave and BEF scum?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:07 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8217, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 8210, DrewVa wrote:If scum had that ability, why wouldn’t they have known about it on D1? So, they would then have to know that they wouldn’t be anonymous, right? And that suspicion would thereby fall on any slot in there who didn’t win a prize? And it’s only now that Boon tells us, that one of the slots is always random.
Huh.
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick
one of themselves as a Day Rep
?
+
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:They don't have to use this ability, but
starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
They likely didn't know how the dayreps are selected.
They likely thought they could just blend in with the randomness.
They likely didn't know Boon would yell their ability out loud the next day.
I mean,
IN HOW MANY GAMES DOES THE MOD REVEAL SCUMTEAMS ABILITIES AT THE START OF THE DAY AFTER GIVING IT TO THEM?
:lol:

And to anyone saying it's not "powerful" to be a dayrep, I call bs.
Scum should be seeking to use any "power" available to them.
Being a dayrep...well, It's still power to manipulate, drive an agenda, tell a narrative. Potray as a "teamplayer" by "not hammering until we are all sure" etc etc.
I'm not expecting a scum!dayrep would just end day because they can. :yawn:
It wasn’t all that powerful on D2, because on D1, any rep who tried to end the day early, rightfully had a huge FOS lobbed at them, so what power would that really be? Sure scum wouldn’t have known that their ability would be outed but they did know that day reps weren’t anonymous and under heavy scrutiny, so I don’t see the benefit of drawing unnecessary attention to themselves anyway? Near endgame, I’d totally get it but still on D2, I unlikely, think.