In post 8219, DrewVa wrote:According to your theory Una, that would make Dave and BEF the scumteam because Creature has used a disloyal on Thanos.
Huh?
How does "Creature using a disloyal on Thanos" make
A) Creature town?
B) Dave and BEF scum?
A) I’m townreading Creature based on meta.
B) I thought that was your theory, not mine?
I’m not currently scumreading Dave and BEF is nullscum, for me now. \_0_/
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:12 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 8224, DrewVa wrote:It wasn’t all that powerful on D2, because on D1, any rep who tried to end the day early, rightfully had a huge FOS lobbed at them, so what power would that really be?
Well, we didn't see anyone trying to tell much of a story with it, but maybe that is because Boon did tell us about it?
Like...trying to play a friendly neighbourhood townie!dayrep after Boon has just told us that one of them could always be scum if they just wanted to wouldn't be the smartest move I guess?
In post 8224, DrewVa wrote:It wasn’t all that powerful on D2, because on D1, any rep who tried to end the day early, rightfully had a huge FOS lobbed at them, so what power would that really be?
Well, we didn't see anyone trying to tell much of a story with it, but maybe that is because Boon did tell us about it?
Like...trying to play a friendly neighbourhood townie!dayrep after Boon has just told us that one of them could always be scum if they just wanted to wouldn't be the smartest move I guess?
Well, if we don’t die soon, we need to definitely re-evaluate our townreads, because then we ought to rightfully suspect a possible pocket.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:17 pm
by DrewVa
In post 8229, UnaBombaH wrote:...........................................I'm not sure we should be having this discussion.
Okay, I’m just not following rn. Maybe DVa can explain it to me?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:20 pm
by UnaBombaH
I wasn't even a part of this game during D1, but I still think I grasped the overall "feeling" near the EoD.
People weren't certain AT ALL, who was really gonna be the lynch.
So I think scum were either going to take the full benefit of a hard bus (I think we all know this wasn't the case with the flips), or at least TRY to make another wagon go through.
And in a situation where they can't clearly see what wagon is going through, and it's based on PLURALITY, NOT HAMMERING AT L-1, spreading out too thin or "far" from the biggest wagons would basically be the same as bussing.
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool of Ultimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa.
These were the names thrown around, alongside my slot as well.
Leaving us with wagons 2-5.
Something_Smart was on the fifth wagon with a now-flipped townie.
Leaving us with wagons 2-4.
If you think that is a stretch, then we think about this game very differently.
AT LEAST 2 SCUM IN EoD1 WAGONS 2-4. (or scumteam was very silly)
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:23 pm
by UnaBombaH
Heh, I guess S_S being on Xtoxm of all people should make them green.
Meaning that IF there was someone bussing D1, it was DrewVa.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:24 pm
by UnaBombaH
I'm off to work now.
I hope something good comes out of me pouring my heart out.
Massclaim gives us a decent chance of not lynching a doc on the off chance N&M are truthtelling, it likely doesn't influence the NK at this point, and if we can significantly tighten the PoE we can win this fairly quickly.
My suggestion is Una pick an order for PP/X/Gamma/Nero/BEF and then Creat/Dave claim afterwards.
If one of the unclaimed players is in a neighborhood, they can claim in the hood and have their partner/hoodmate claim for them in thread after the whole process happens.
Does anyone have a reason not to do that?
I’m not quoting my theory post about the day reps being 0 utility, but they are relevant. Una, your theory about day reps is garbage. Would someone pick the mass claim order?
And no. SFVend isn’t a protective. It doesn’t stop nightkills.
If I were scum here, I would've definitely taken a dayrep-position D2 for myself or my teammate, and none of you would've apparently punished me for it at all.
So there's that.
I'm scum in spirit and investigative results, just not in role. I'd be lynched literally any other time if scum weren't throwing themselves at me to try and lynch me without any good mechanical reasoning.
If I were scum here, I would've definitely taken a dayrep-position D2 for myself or my teammate, and none of you would've apparently punished me for it at all.
So there's that.
Oh goodie
And what would you have taken with your exciting position
A vacation in the bahamas?
Because it's fucking useless for scum so I'm assuming you want the money or glory right?
In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?
I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)
I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined 7940 but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.
-d
This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.
Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.
Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.
In post 8186, davesaz wrote:Are you dodging N&M's question? Or overlooked it?
I asked Nancy, I think she mostly remembered N&M pushing EJ over SS, and I believe she misremembered N&M trying to prevent the day from ending when that did not happen afaik. I don't really have an issue with retracting that part of the case on her behalf, given I don't really think that's the biggest issue we have with the N&M slot. (Claim, Boonus Round, Tone, Reactions, seem more what we've discussed irt the slot)
I'm still a bit more conflicted as I outlined 7940 but am not sure that I want BEF more today than N&M despite my misgivings on the slot.
-d
This while post is fucking bullshit. First of all Nancy is posting, but she can't respond personally to the post that you already told me you didn't want to speak for her on. I get that you spoke to her, but if it's not your read then I don't think you should be the one posting the defense.
Nancy throws shade at us in a lot of posts and when called on it she sends out her peon to make the slight retraction.
Nancy, if you think we are scum case us. Shade, feelings and tone policing isnt substative. Explain why are actions point to a scum mentality. I can't change your mind on how you read my posts. I can argue reasoning behind things info and say though.
What part of we’re a hydra aren’t you comprehending?
If I were scum here, I would've definitely taken a dayrep-position D2 for myself or my teammate, and none of you would've apparently punished me for it at all.
So there's that.
Oh goodie
And what would you have taken with your exciting position
A vacation in the bahamas?
Because it's fucking useless for scum so I'm assuming you want the money or glory right?
-d
I think Una’s still probably town though.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:04 am
by Xtoxm
@una wrt to the d1 wagon, a scum lynch being possible with only 4 votes tells me scum was likely not present at the deadline. (in addition to EFN)
the old votes that didnt get updated: Karm, PP, dave, UL, GE, RCE, NM, Theta
cheeky's vote came only moments before deadline, so one vote move would have been able to change the outcome, assuming you're town
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:19 am
by PenguinPower
I kinda just want to go with the massclaim because we aren't really agreeing on anything...don't care where I am in the order.