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Post Post #8776 (isolation #600) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 8772, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8771, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8750, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8703, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8702, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8693, profii wrote:2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?
BEF gave you fruit N1. Knowing this, and that you said you would send it to your loyal guy N2, S_S jailed you and BEF gave TLK fruit as a setup.

That's how I read it.
This would all depend on BEF having more than 1 shot though, right?
Not BEF, SS.

Maybe one of the N1 or 2 winners gifted a +1 to him?
Thats kind of what im getting at there chief. BEF lost his n1 game, and sent the fruit to profii night 1. For him to have taken another shot someone on his scum team would have had to win a game and send the prize his way. Boon already said that the +1 and prize were tied together, so if you send 1 you send the other.

There was another issue i remember where we had an extra modifier from a night iirc. We can look back and see who were winners in n1s game to see who could have sent bef another charge. At least 1 scum would be in the alive winners of n1.
What about n2?
1. I thought your position was that he was lying about being 1 shot.
2. Yeah I suppose that it could have come on n2 as well since no one can confirm sticky fruit coming to them on n2.
3. Why does scum waste a valuable item early in the game on a town role?
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Post Post #8784 (isolation #601) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 8777, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8773, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8751, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8706, Nev and Max wrote:And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.
How so? If anything it helps confitown Penguin because he was obviously trying to alignment cop TLK and had TLK not received the stickyfruit, Penguin would have both prevented TLK mislynch and town!McQueen death.
And I can come up with a story explaining my theory as well. Neither of us have any proof to support our claims, and we each see merit in our own version of events. Im not going to get into a wall off trying to prove my point, because I cant.

I can point out that if we are 1v1 Bef v Profii i need someone to explain why scumBEF gives the sticky fruit to town!profii night 1?
Good point but why does scum!Prof give sticky fruit to town!TLK?

Profil claims to have given loyal to Penguin and he used loyal on us with the hood, doesn’t that town confirm Profil? Well obviously it would to us, since we obviously know our alignment.

Also something to consider, do you really think scum would have a public activate role?
Well, isnt the story that profii sent the fruit to the same person he made loyal? So Prof would have sent the fruit to PP. PP sent regular fruit to tlk. TLK ended up with the sticky which would have made him ascetic, and would have been the reason PPs regular fruit failed.

So the question is
how
did the fruit get from prof to tlk?
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Post Post #8788 (isolation #602) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 8780, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8775, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8769, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8768, Nev and Max wrote:This theory would need BEF to have gained a shot somewhere. Where did the extra shot come from when BEF lost his game night 1?
There is no indication that every PR in the setup is one-shot; Profii claims his variant role is not one-shot, my variant role is not one-shot, and there is therefore no reason to conclude that the boon role of sticky fruit vendor would be one-shot, especially if it was a scum sticky fruit vendor in this setup. Therefore we do not need to demonstrate that BEF is a one-shot SFV given all we have to support that argument is his word on that matter.

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So BEF lied about being 1 shot? Why give it to town at all?
Why does BEF push TLK wagon? He has pushed mislynches on Ram, TLK and recently tried to push Elsa over scum!Smart.
Tlk needed to die because of his claim. Also, with his death there is a way to make it so that a scum read dies as well. It would have worked out if SS and Else didnt bail on it. And we got SS in the end, and Elsa is still suspect.

Ram was a bad lynch on a good suspect. It fit a theory on the day reps, he acted scummy as fuck, and what did he flip? Vanilla? So good, he did his job too.

Elsa and SS could have gone either way. WHy does scum sit on a nonsinking ship when 9 other players hopped on the titanic right before it went down?
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Post Post #8790 (isolation #603) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 8785, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8784, Nev and Max wrote:So the question is how did the fruit get from prof to tlk?
Redirected or 2nd-shot.

2nd shot seems more likely given outed roles.
Then we are back to looking at winners for n1 and n2 and we follow the chain of custody.
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Post Post #8793 (isolation #604) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:48 pm

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In post 8791, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8790, Nev and Max wrote:Then we are back to looking at winners for n1 and n2 and we follow the chain of custody.
wut?

How do you get to that conclusion?
Unless you are saying that BEF is lying about being 1 shot as well, he would have had to gain a shot from someone.
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Post Post #8794 (isolation #605) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:48 pm

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Creature never mentioned the word loud in his iso until he was told to confirm it.
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Post Post #8796 (isolation #606) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:52 pm

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SO again, do you think that BEF is lying about being 1 shot?
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Post Post #8798 (isolation #607) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:53 pm

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In post 8795, PenguinPower wrote:Or a redirector, which we established is unlikely given outed roles.
I dont think this is a thing either. Scum can lie about what they are. And not everyone has claimed yet. Not that they would claim that at this point.
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Post Post #8799 (isolation #608) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:54 pm

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And you saying that BEF could be lying about his x shot means that you cant believe that a role doesnt exist because you just said scum will lie about roles and claims.
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Post Post #8800 (isolation #609) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:55 pm

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Im glad we could argue each other into this corner.

Wanna do something productive with me instead?
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Post Post #8802 (isolation #610) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:57 pm

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In post 8801, PenguinPower wrote:If you want to lynch BEF...yes.
Ok, lets play devils advocate. We lynch BEF and he flips town. Where do we go?
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Post Post #8803 (isolation #611) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:00 pm

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I just thought about this as well. Profii has said that he cant gain any more shots, his role doesnt work with the +1. BEF has said that if he could get a shot he could recharge.

So if this is a 1v1 between the two, BEF would be the less optimal choice because we would be potentially robbing ourselves of a role that can either do damage or draw the night kill.
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Post Post #8804 (isolation #612) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:01 pm

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If we lynch BEF and it ends up being profii we just did scums job for them by lynching a town PR.
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Post Post #8805 (isolation #613) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:02 pm

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And if profii flips town, we power lynch BEF the next day, same way we would profii if BEF flipped town today.
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Post Post #8819 (isolation #614) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 8806, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8802, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8801, PenguinPower wrote:If you want to lynch BEF...yes.
Ok, lets play devils advocate. We lynch BEF and he flips town. Where do we go?
The rest of the slots need to claim if variant. If not, then profii because there can only be three variant roles and a town!BEF flip and my clear on DrewVa mean that the only explanation for TLK getting the sticky fruit is that profii lied about sending it to me and sent it to TLK instead.

I don't see why scum!profii loyalizes me and then lies about making Creature loud and sending me sticky fruit, but that would be the only explanation.
If this is 1v1 then of course profii dies tomorrow...

I think there is ample reason to go for profii first though.
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Post Post #8822 (isolation #615) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:50 pm

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In post 8817, DrewVa wrote:which here would presumably be an every-night sticky fruit vendor.
I stopped reading here.

BEF is not the lynch for today, profii is.

Profii has spent his shots and is in the 1v1.
BEF has the ability to be recharged.

The person with the most potential town benefit lives to see another day. Show me how im wrong.
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Post Post #8823 (isolation #616) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:52 pm

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In post 8821, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8802, Nev and Max wrote:Ok, lets play devils advocate. We lynch BEF and he flips town. Where do we go?
In post 8806, PenguinPower wrote:If not, then profii
In post 8819, Nev and Max wrote:If this is 1v1 then of course profii dies tomorrow...

I think there is ample reason to go for profii first though.
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I wasnt sure youd actually say profii.
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Post Post #8824 (isolation #617) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:53 pm

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In post 8817, DrewVa wrote:BEF n3 -- Maybe Elsa (if Elsa is scum BP)?
BEF n4 -- maybe Jingle (if Jingle is not town commuter)?
Nothing to support either of these claims. Not sure why you are speculating on this aspect.
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Post Post #8826 (isolation #618) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 8817, DrewVa wrote:While N&M may not be keen on the idea, my preference would be for him to be leashed to PenguinPower, to ensure that Penguin gets his fruit off tonight and is alive tomorrow.
Why PP over Dave or RCE?
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Post Post #8828 (isolation #619) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 8825, PenguinPower wrote:The person with the most beneficial scum role with the least town arguments...

in before N&M claims they wanted BEF lynched tomorrow after he flips scum...
Just like how we are scum right?

And if profii flips scum, why would I want BEF dead?
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Post Post #8830 (isolation #620) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:58 pm

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We also dont really know what profii is. Hell, i could have listed the modifiers scum won in the first night and said his role was to give those out. People who get them dont know where they come from, so any of the people could have sent them. And now creature is saying he didnt get one...
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Post Post #8832 (isolation #621) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 8830, Nev and Max wrote:We also dont really know what profii is. Hell,
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he could have listed the modifiers scum won in the first night and said his role was to give those out. People who get them dont know where they come from, so any of the people could have sent them. And now creature is saying he didnt get one...
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Post Post #8834 (isolation #622) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:00 pm

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In post 8831, PenguinPower wrote:Grammar alludes me today for some reason.

"In before N&M claims tomorrow they wanted BEF lynched after he (BEF) flips scum"

alluding to your play with S_S and Elsa.
Yuck it up all you want, elsa has been a black hole of a slot before that, and has been even worse since. She isnt clear by a fucking mile, and I could see scum theater in what they did for sure.

I am not afraid to be wrong.
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Post Post #8837 (isolation #623) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 8833, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8830, Nev and Max wrote:We also dont really know what profii is. Hell, i could have listed the modifiers scum won in the first night and said his role was to give those out. People who get them dont know where they come from, so any of the people could have sent them. And now creature is saying he didnt get one...
Someone else is free to claim they sent me loyal or Una ascetic. No one else has, so simplicity should take precedent.

Who won loyal N1? Who has an actual plausible story for why they sent it to me?
If one scum won they could have done it to lay the foundation for profii to claim. What a way to build a claim around things that actually happened and that you can prove. Use one on a townie that they can then pocket the fuck out of. Then spread the mist with the rest. Profii says he gave one to someone who says he never got it. Man profii must have been fucked with!!!
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Post Post #8838 (isolation #624) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 8835, PenguinPower wrote:I don't disagree with you on Elsa...but you were calling S_S town over Elsa the entire time and were wrong...soo......
Show me. My recollection is that both had to die.
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Post Post #8840 (isolation #625) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:04 pm

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In post 8836, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8830, Nev and Max wrote:We also dont really know what profii is.
Hasn't una confirmed the ascetic and Penguin confirmed the loyal? Profii's role now that we have fully discussed it has a fair amount of evidence backing it. What is less certain is his alignment. But town or scum, profii is probably an inventor at this point.

-d
Or he is using the modifiers from the boonus rounds to make it look like he is.

Why does he give out the same shit we get from the boonus rounds? Is Boon that lazy that he would build them both into a game?
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Post Post #8841 (isolation #626) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:05 pm

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In post 8839, PenguinPower wrote:He gave it to two people who got it...

Dude...
Who was the other, Una? And Creature was supposed to be the loud one, but it never got there. Una got ascetic?
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Post Post #8842 (isolation #627) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:07 pm

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In post 8839, PenguinPower wrote:Dude...
And seriously, will you stop with this shit? Its not like im misunderstanding a simple fucking thing here. This game is complicated as fuck and youre acting like im fucking stupid for having a different view point here.
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Post Post #8844 (isolation #628) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:09 pm

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In post 8836, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8830, Nev and Max wrote:We also dont really know what profii is.
Hasn't una confirmed the ascetic and Penguin confirmed the loyal? Profii's role now that we have fully discussed it has a fair amount of evidence backing it. What is less certain is his alignment. But town or scum, profii is probably an inventor at this point.

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Didnt you claim that sticky fruit is a negative utility? Why would Una receiving ascetic from profii then be considered a protown thing?
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Post Post #8845 (isolation #629) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:10 pm

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In post 8843, Elsa Jay wrote:I know there's a case for the 1v1 for Profii and BEF, but this.... Nev has gone psychotic. We seriously don't know what to do here.

DrewVa, if your positive on Fishy boy, I'll go with you, but so far I've been right 1/8 times. I think you can trust my judgement when I say Nev isn't going to be a helpful being.
Help us figure this all out, or shut the fuck up.

And don't say anything else about mental health.
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Post Post #8850 (isolation #630) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 8846, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8838, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8835, PenguinPower wrote:I don't disagree with you on Elsa...but you were calling S_S town over Elsa the entire time and were wrong...soo......
Show me. My recollection is that both had to die.
Yes...you said both should die. But you defended S_S and claimed he was more town...similar to what you are doing here (bolded town callouts):

Spoiler: Here ya go
In post 6567, Nev and Max wrote:Still rather have EJ flip then SS
In post 6619, Nev and Max wrote:Pointing out that Elsa also has lied is gross? You're the one pointing out that S_S already lied. Is what's good for the gander not good for the goose?
In post 6636, Nev and Max wrote:I suppose we are just going to have to see things differently here. You are vilifying S_S for lying in such a way that would trap Elsa. Elsa has lied multiple times in this game and you hand wave that away.

Which is more gross?
In post 6646, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6644, Something_Smart wrote:I believed his claim. But I also figured that with all the people calling for his head he'd be lynched at some point, and I wanted to take advantage of that.
Every time I try to make sense of the lynch and it's voting I keep coming back
town side on SS
and scum on Elsa for motivation.

Hell, they could both be scum and this is one hell of a power play from them both...
In post 6843, Nev and Max wrote:I think you are conveniently ignoring the fact that your action is just as complicit in the death of Mc. And considering the reasoning behind S_S's actions were
premeditated and has town intent
where your action is passive and has a high scum equity to it, it leads me to see you as nothing but opportunistic scum.
Fun quote given what you are saying today:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is telling the truth we lynch scum in you. If he is lying he dies tomorrow.
BONUS QUOTE:
In post 7009, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 7005, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6971, Creature wrote:Hmm, didn't know I was a day rep
townclearing for Creature, or no?
interestingly, ej has n&m and ss as scum.
n&m has creat as tr.

Incredible.

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Not sure what any of this does to support your point that I wanted 1 before the other but thought that both were scum... we havent switched our read on elsa, and she hasnt done anything to change my opinion. And yeah, if we lynched elsa and she flipped town I would have wanted to lynch SS the next day. Thanks for pointing out what ive been trying to tell you. Do you get it now?
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Post Post #8853 (isolation #631) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 8848, Elsa Jay wrote:The lne thing you got from that is mental health? The fuck?
If you dont get that it was the only part that crossed the line then....
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Post Post #8856 (isolation #632) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:20 pm

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In post 8852, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8843, Elsa Jay wrote:DrewVa, if your positive on Fishy boy, I'll go with you, but so far I've been right 1/8 times. I think you can trust my judgement when I say Nev isn't going to be a helpful being.
I actually don't entirely disagree. I was discussing with Penguin and Nancy about whether we should use investigatives on Profii/BEF and actually lynch N&M, given his desire to disrupt townblock formation and generate wifom.

Penguin believes that the town will not support this proposition. I honestly was seriously considering it before Creature confirmed that he did not receive the loud. With Creature confirming he did not get the loud, there's an increasing range of evidence to suggest that the mechanical 1v1 needs to be resolved.

However, if the town feels like there is potential value in a N&M lynch, and using the combined investigative assets of the town to try to get a result on one of BEF or profii, this is a possibility.

The problem comes back to whether we believe BEF is town, though. If he is scum, then he has already vended sticky fruit to a scum buddy, and they can vend it back to him tonight thus disrupting any direct results on him. But if Profii is scum, then he should not have access to sticky fruit, and therefore we should be able to get a result though, now that the loyal fruit mechanic is outed, he likely claims fruit regardless of alignment. Thus, the fruiting needs to not be leashed. Still, if we wanted, we could theoretically lynch N&M and leash Creature to profii, thus confirming him as town and preventing the risk of a series of mislynches over a mechanical issue.

The question is then whether N&M's level of distraction and annoyance is greater than the mechanical clarity that would be generated by a BEF flip. I haven't really been discussing this possibility given that there is still ongoing discussion irt BEF/profii and I don't feel then need to hijack that before all issues with profii slot are resolved.

-d
Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?

You are essentially saying that you now want to lynch me to silence me. Because I have an opposing view that is starting to poke holes into your stance? Because I can spin a narrative just as likely since we are both working off the same info? What are you gonna do ask me to come to the embassy and have a bone saw waitnig?
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Post Post #8859 (isolation #633) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:22 pm

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In post 8854, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8844, Nev and Max wrote:Didnt you claim that sticky fruit is a negative utility? Why would Una receiving ascetic from profii then be considered a protown thing?
that is precisely my question actually, I'm not sure why you think we disagree on that particular point

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Because the fact that profii "gifted" items is why he is being touted as town over BEF. If one of the gifts he gave is a negative utility, then why is he town over bef?

And could someone please answer why boon makes the prizes the same as what profii gives out.

I swear to god i am arguing with 3/4 of you right now and its making my head spin.
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Post Post #8860 (isolation #634) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:23 pm

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In post 8858, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 8853, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8848, Elsa Jay wrote:The lne thing you got from that is mental health? The fuck?
If you dont get that it was the only part that crossed the line then....
Sigh.
One of the fellas who get very offended, huh?

Pedit: Oh jeez. More word babble from Nev. The fella who was legitimately more scummy day 4 then Smart himself.
Yes, I get offended when shit people like you joke about mental health. Keep it up.
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Post Post #8863 (isolation #635) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:26 pm

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In post 8861, Elsa Jay wrote:Well telling me to shut the fuck up isn't particularly PC either. If you want the Moral high ground at the very least don't swear.
Telling you to shut up regardless of how its said is very different from throwing around terms like that. Nice attempt at a straw man though. Be cool if you played the actual game as well.
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Post Post #8866 (isolation #636) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 8862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8856, Nev and Max wrote:Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?
Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.
The plan is straight out of the Authoritarian handbook. Silence those who speak the truth against those who have power.

And when did i call you a nazi?
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Post Post #8870 (isolation #637) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:30 pm

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In post 8865, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8856, Nev and Max wrote:You are essentially saying that you now want to lynch me to silence me. Because I have an opposing view that is starting to poke holes into your stance? Because I can spin a narrative just as likely since we are both working off the same info? What are you gonna do ask me to come to the embassy and have a bone saw waitnig?
No, you were basically the towncore's consensus lynch before the mechanical 1v1 began. While a few people had misgivings about your claim, and some have liked your play today, if we were lynching based on play/reads over mechanics, you would be today's lynch. Your play today fits much more into your scum game, you have misrepresented several points, etc. If you are not lynched today, I probably ask Creature to be leashed to you, given that you are likely scum. (Jingle could debate this point, given that Jingle feels investigatives should form a mechanical townblock over scumhunting, but this is a strategic point we disagree on)

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If you think id be the lynch, push me. What have i misrepresented? I welcome anything that proves we are town, cause that will happen, and then you can eat some crow. Unless your scum, then you can eat whatever you want because you already knew we are town.
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Post Post #8872 (isolation #638) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:32 pm

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In post 8868, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8866, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8856, Nev and Max wrote:Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?
Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.
The plan is straight out of the Authoritarian handbook. Silence those who speak the truth against those who have power.

And when did i call you a nazi?
In post 8174, Nev and Max wrote:You special? Are the untermenschen not supposed to make eye contact much less speak to you?

Ok. I understand why you would think that. That wasnt my intention and I apologize that it came off that way, it was more the way to describe the unwanted people, and not tying a link to their captors.

Again, I apologize it came off the way it did to you.
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Post Post #8875 (isolation #639) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:34 pm

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In post 8869, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8848, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 8845, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8843, Elsa Jay wrote:I know there's a case for the 1v1 for Profii and BEF, but this.... Nev has gone psychotic. We seriously don't know what to do here.

DrewVa, if your positive on Fishy boy, I'll go with you, but so far I've been right 1/8 times. I think you can trust my judgement when I say Nev isn't going to be a helpful being.
Help us figure this all out, or shut the fuck up.

And don't say anything else about mental health.
The lne thing you got from that is mental health? The fuck?
Nev/FF is using gross AtE to manipulate this game, which in no world reads townie.
Are you fucking kidding me. This is the site that loses its shit when someone uses the wrong pronoun by accident. I am well within my right to ask someone to not say anything about mental health. And then for them to mock me as one of those fellas who gets offended is bullshit.

Any other situation and you wouldnt be saying this. So fuck you too.
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Post Post #8882 (isolation #640) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:39 pm

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In post 8880, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8861, Elsa Jay wrote:Well telling me to shut the fuck up isn't particularly PC either. If you want the Moral high ground at the very least don't swear.
In post 8862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8856, Nev and Max wrote:Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?
Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.
@Elsa, I rest my case. The same guy who is giving you shit is calling Pengin a fascist.
In post 8872, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8868, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8866, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8856, Nev and Max wrote:Where did you get this plan from? Mussolini? Stalin? Mao?
Are you serious with this?

First you associate me with Nazism. You're getting a bit out of control.
The plan is straight out of the Authoritarian handbook. Silence those who speak the truth against those who have power.

And when did i call you a nazi?
In post 8174, Nev and Max wrote:You special? Are the untermenschen not supposed to make eye contact much less speak to you?

Ok. I understand why you would think that. That wasnt my intention and I apologize that it came off that way, it was more the way to describe the unwanted people, and not tying a link to their captors.

Again, I apologize it came off the way it did to you.
I can see how you would have missed this post as you dont give a shit about actually reading naything i post.
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Post Post #8890 (isolation #641) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:46 pm

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In post 8883, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8871, Elsa Jay wrote:Doctor, his psychosis is getting worse. We may have to put him down.
lmao
In post 8884, Elsa Jay wrote:I'll just move the subject in a more peaceful direction and agree cordially to bail put on the Nev lynch temporarily for strategic purposes. I'll move my vote to BEF now.

Pedit: Atleaat you found the J-o-k-e funny DrewVa.
In post 8887, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8875, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8869, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8848, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 8845, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8843, Elsa Jay wrote:I know there's a case for the 1v1 for Profii and BEF, but this.... Nev has gone psychotic. We seriously don't know what to do here.

DrewVa, if your positive on Fishy boy, I'll go with you, but so far I've been right 1/8 times. I think you can trust my judgement when I say Nev isn't going to be a helpful being.
Help us figure this all out, or shut the fuck up.

And don't say anything else about mental health.
The lne thing you got from that is mental health? The fuck?
Nev/FF is using gross AtE to manipulate this game, which in no world reads townie.
Are you fucking kidding me. This is the site that loses its shit when someone uses the wrong pronoun by accident. I am well within my right to ask someone to not say anything about mental health. And then for them to mock me as one of those fellas who gets offended is bullshit.

Any other situation and you wouldnt be saying this. So fuck you too.
Townlocking you for this


NOT.


Your behaviour is deliberately intended to disrupt town cohesion. You’re not convincing anyone with this crap.
Good to know that you see someone standing up for something they believe is AtE. Id hate to see someone offend you at any level and then have them react the way you are to me. Youre a real stand up person.
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Post Post #8891 (isolation #642) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:47 pm

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By all means, continue to try and diminish and belittle. Its very becoming.
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Post Post #8893 (isolation #643) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:48 pm

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3 of you gang up on me when I was trying to figure out the bef/profii 1v1. Elsa says some offensive shit that nancy cosigns and then im told to go cool off?

No.
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Post Post #8901 (isolation #644) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:22 pm

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We will vote for BEF with the understanding that if he flips town we, without question, lynch profii the next day.
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Post Post #8915 (isolation #645) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 8913, Formerfish wrote:
In post 8912, davesaz wrote:
@Profii

I think I've seen claims of both inventor and neighborize actions from you. Does that mean you're a JOAT? If not how do you have two actions when normal roles are singletons?

I'm on BEF. I would like to get this answer from Profii before end of day, and I'd like town to pay attention to the question and answer too. If it has been answered and I missed it, kindly point the way. ;)
He was gifted the neighborhood iirc.
In post 8914, Formerfish wrote:Hey dave.

Why does profiis power correspond directly to the prizes of the boonus rounds?
And i should go to bed.
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Post Post #8936 (isolation #646) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:20 am

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In post 8930, Creature wrote:Great

This game is officially broken due mod error
In post 8931, Creature wrote:I could swear I got the loud modifier
This should die.
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Post Post #8979 (isolation #647) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:19 am

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I’m currently at page 341 with Malala account.

Sorry for being absent. Busy with work + illness that isn’t gone yet.

Sorry I fucked up with the Boonus round should have voted thanos but I didn’t think Dave would also vote so that was my bad

Also I read a bunch of FF vs Nancy.

I’m kinda weirded out that Nancy isn’t trying to gauge a read off my head because I’m easier to read and sort.


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Post Post #8994 (isolation #648) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:50 am

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In post 8993, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8989, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8987, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8983, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8982, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8981, BrightEyedFish wrote:How will my mislynch solve anything?
How do we know Profil isn’t?

I don’t know if it is one but finding out whether Profil did in fact send Creature a LOUD n2, will definitely help, determine that.

But if Profil is scum, how does he send Penguin a LOYAL, so your lynch still makes way more sense than Profil’s.
Can profii only send loyals to the same alignment as himself?
I think so, isn’t that what that modifier means: same alignment as your own?

So, for Profil to be lying about that, it also would have to mean that both Penguin and us are also lying about that and we know our alignment, so, I don’t see how Profil could be lying.

Tin foil: maybe TLK did WIFOM us, like Xtoxm is saying? I dunno.
Profii would have to have the loyal modifier on himself for him to ONLY be able to gift to the same alignment. From what I understand he just gifted the loyal and doesn't have the loyal modifier in his role.
Oh okay, he isn’t confitown then, so the Creature LOUD becomes even more important than ever in resolving this.

If Creature did get LOUD n2, it means that Profil couldn’t have been jailkept and if Creature never got the LOUD, it means he probably was, this is why figuring this out is so important.
Is the bold for emphasis or are you continuing your questioning of Boon?
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Post Post #9022 (isolation #649) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:04 am

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In post 9012, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9011, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8963, BrightEyedFish wrote:I don't think people will change their minds so it seems I'm a goner.

I wish I had more dying words that could help out. I'll just say it again so you know.

I am a Town 1-shot Sticky Fruit Vendor.
I used that 1 shot on profii N1.
I never received any gifts or anything.

I think there is scum in here:
PP, profii, DrewVa, Jingle, EJ, Creature
For someone who was resigned to being lynched you are throwing everything you have to try and get anyone else lynched.
And no one is coming to my side.
I thought profile should go first, but I also saw potential utility in your role for town. I was shut down on that front and told that your role is negative utility. Somehow profii giving someone the same effect that your role provides is apparently acceptable to our town overlords.
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Post Post #9040 (isolation #650) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 9023, RCEnigma wrote:Look Nev it's like this. If Bef is scumvendor we don't want a stickyfruit in their hands. If Profii is the scum here and flips that way tomorrow then the game is solved and they can concede or whatever.
So scumbef gave townprofii the first fruit just to sow wifom?
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Post Post #9045 (isolation #651) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:46 pm

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In post 9024, RCEnigma wrote:Profii as scum doesn't have a nightly impact but Bef scum does.
How do you know that profii has no ability at night? If he is scum then he could have easily lied.

Look. I get that we are lynching BEF today. What I don't like is bringing up what I feel are valid points that show a better lynch somewhere else, imo, and getting shit on because of it. I get that I can be wrong, but to handwave me away because I see things differently is disgusting.
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Post Post #9046 (isolation #652) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:48 pm

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In post 9030, PenguinPower wrote:I hear that penguins like fish.
Try and eat us, we are like that fish that sinks it's hooks into the tongue of another fish and takes over it's life.
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Post Post #9047 (isolation #653) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:49 pm

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In post 9044, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9008, Jingle wrote:Nope. We're definitely lynching in you/profii today. None of the other associations are strong enough to chain lynches.

Nice try tho.
Yeah the flail from BEF is insane
As opposed to profii who has been mostly absent from the thread...
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Post Post #9051 (isolation #654) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 9049, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9047, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9044, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9008, Jingle wrote:Nope. We're definitely lynching in you/profii today. None of the other associations are strong enough to chain lynches.

Nice try tho.
Yeah the flail from BEF is insane
As opposed to profii who has been mostly absent from the thread...
Which has already been explained as a site wide thing.

:roll:
Ok. Thanks chief.
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Post Post #9052 (isolation #655) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 9050, Gamma Emerald wrote:Ok
Should I just end the day now? I think my vote would hammer it
Please do. I'm done with fighting PP, Drew and Elsa.
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Post Post #9053 (isolation #656) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 9045, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9024, RCEnigma wrote:Profii as scum doesn't have a nightly impact but Bef scum does.
How do you know that profii has no ability at night? If he is scum then he could have easily lied.

Look. I get that we are lynching BEF today. What I don't like is bringing up what I feel are valid points that show a better lynch somewhere else, imo, and getting shit on because of it. I get that I can be wrong, but to handwave me away because I see things differently is disgusting.
PP, I love when you respond to posts 2 and 3 out of 3 while ignoring post 1. It's especially fun when ignoring post 1 of that set proves my point.
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Post Post #9062 (isolation #657) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 9054, PenguinPower wrote:I’m on mobile. I’m so horrible for missing something.

:roll:
The irony in this is amazing. I miss something said about profiis activity, and you shit on me.

I question why you responded to 2 out of 3 posts and you shit on me because you're on mobile.

I literally can't do anything right for you can I? I try to imagine what you'll do when you realize we are town. Then I think that you'll probably just act like everyone else and not give a shit that you're read was completely wrong on us. Or you're scum and keep doing you bro.
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Post Post #9064 (isolation #658) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:54 pm

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In post 9063, PenguinPower wrote:Umm...I missed a post that didn't really mean much...you missed entire concepts. Same thing...

If you're town, stop playing the "woe is me" card. It's scummy.

If I find out you're town, I'll do what I always do when I'm wrong. Reassess.
Ok fine. Can you point me in the direction of that conversation so I can look at it for myself? I'm not even sure who to iso to find it.
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Post Post #9069 (isolation #659) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:59 pm

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Post Post #9077 (isolation #660) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:49 pm

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In post 9074, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 9045, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9024, RCEnigma wrote:Profii as scum doesn't have a nightly impact but Bef scum does.
How do you know that profii has no ability at night? If he is scum then he could have easily lied.

Look. I get that we are lynching BEF today. What I don't like is bringing up what I feel are valid points that show a better lynch somewhere else, imo, and getting shit on because of it. I get that I can be wrong, but to handwave me away because I see things differently is disgusting.
Is Drewva your better Lynch? Discounting some fucked mechanic there's one between Bef or profii. We're guaranteed to hit scum tonday or tomorrow.
No I was for doing profii first since its his action thats in question. We know BEF told the truth about sending his fruit to profii, profii is the stop in the chain thats in question. All the rest is just fluff made up to explain how a certain situation could have happened. Its all predicated upon certain ideas that no one knows even exist for sure.
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Post Post #9078 (isolation #661) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 9064, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9063, PenguinPower wrote:Umm...I missed a post that didn't really mean much...you missed entire concepts. Same thing...

If you're town, stop playing the "woe is me" card. It's scummy.

If I find out you're town, I'll do what I always do when I'm wrong. Reassess.
Ok fine. Can you point me in the direction of that conversation so I can look at it for myself? I'm not even sure who to iso to find it.
Hey PP, you must be on mobile again, so heres a repost.
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Post Post #9080 (isolation #662) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:15 pm

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You said that there was a conversation about profii being site wide absent. Could you point me in the direction of where that happened so I can look at it myself?
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Post Post #9082 (isolation #663) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:16 pm

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I didnt see it and I had no idea where it would be. PP seemed to know so I asked him. Whats the issue?
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Post Post #9083 (isolation #664) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:19 pm

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Hey Drew. Is that the only place where profiis activity was talked about, or are there more posts that I missed about it?
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Post Post #9085 (isolation #665) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 9084, DrewVa wrote:Do you know BEF's alignment FF?

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I dont.

Were there more references to profiis activity?
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Post Post #9087 (isolation #666) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:32 pm

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In post 9086, DrewVa wrote:I'm just wondering because it seems like right now you're trying to bait the lynch away from him to yourself right now.

So either you know he is scum and he has a more valuable role than yours, or you know he is town and you want to give everyone shit before the flip.

Either way I don't really see how your play at this moment is uninformed.

But if you think that complaining to other people about how you're too lazy to reread the thread will advance your wincon, you might want to reflect on why you play mafia. Is your play right now fun for you? Do you think other people are enjoying interacting with you? How important is your wincon to you and why do you think this strategy is helping advance it?

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There are 350+ pages. I didnt know where a particular thing that happened would be located in the over 9000 posts. Its not that im lazy, its that I would be looking for a needle in a hay stack. And I would have imagined the way PP talked about how silly I was to miss a whole concept that it would have been much larger than the line in that one post you quoted.

So how about you answer an easy question instead of word vomitting on me.

Do you know of any other posts talking about profiis activity?
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Post Post #9088 (isolation #667) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:34 pm

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RCE asked me a question and I was able to calmly answer him. I would like to play here, but it seems like most of my time is spent with you, PP and elsa up my ass.

Even when I try to reach out and work with you guys you just shit on me. So sorry, not sorry, but whatever.
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Post Post #9089 (isolation #668) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:36 pm

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And call this AtE if you want. But put yourself in my shoes for a second. I know we are town. Think about how you as town in my position would be acting. If its different cool. But literally nothing I do is going to be good enough for you or PP so what are we doing here?
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Post Post #9090 (isolation #669) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:40 pm

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Like theres 16 people alive and I feel like the thread has just been the 4 of us for a couple days. I keep wondering if this is because theres scum in you guys and youre trying to push town in a certain direction and dont like that im here as a thron in your sides.

Or are we all town and scum is just sitting the fuck back watching as we implode.
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Post Post #9093 (isolation #670) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:47 pm

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Listen. I was talking to PP. He said something happened. I asked him where that was because he remembered it and I didnt. I am not going to search through this thread by ctrl fing each page for a keyword that I would be guessing at.

I was giving him a little shit because he missed that post while posting about newer things. Why are you bothered by this whole thing with him and I is beyond me.

PP is the one who tried to shit on me for not remembering a concept, while it looks like it was one line in a large post from you. Why is he making one line into a mountain?

I have conceeded that I was looking at BEF in a different way, that we could use his ability, others have told me that is a bad idea. So our vote is on BEF. If someone asks why I think that someone else is a better lynch than I am going to answer them. I can have opinions too.

How am I acting toxic right now? I am trying to work out issues that we are having with the game and trying to talk to other players about my ideas. Show me where im being toxic without being provoked.
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Post Post #9094 (isolation #671) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 9092, DrewVa wrote:Right now I am literally considering the possibility that you are being deliberately aggressive just to goad me into ending the day. I have no idea what it says about BEF's flip but it certainly makes me suspicious of yours. It's like you don't even want profii to respond.

Like, if profii's activity bothers you... why are you so uninterested in profii? That's certainly not where your posts seem directly lately

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You think BEF is lying scum. You are the one who seems uninterested because you the one who said you were voting BEF but wanted to hear from profii on questions, but said that it didnt really matter what he responded with, you were still voting BEF.

I think that profii is a better lynch, you dont agree, cool. We are voting BEF.
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Post Post #9099 (isolation #672) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 9096, DrewVa wrote:Instead of spamming the same question to PP three times in a row
With lines like this I dont see why I would listen to anything you tell me to do. It is very apparent how you feel about me and this slot. I asked a question to someone who knew the answer. He didnt understand so I asked again. Its not like I just wrote the same thing and triple posted it so he would see.

I posted once, and he responded to posts after it.

I reposted and then he said he didnt understand. You were quick to come to his aid though...
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Post Post #9102 (isolation #673) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 9101, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 9099, Nev and Max wrote:I reposted and then he said he didnt understand. You were quick to come to his aid though...
They are aligned and playing as such idk why that's surprising.
Because there was no need for drew to interject there. PP is a big boy and can answer a question when he was the one that brought the subject up.
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Post Post #9105 (isolation #674) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:14 pm

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In post 9104, DrewVa wrote:You're feeling confident that a BEF lynch is better than a N&M lynch?

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You arent trying to shy away from the 1v1 now are you? Didnt you accuse me of trying to do that?
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Post Post #9116 (isolation #675) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:33 pm

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In post 9113, DrewVa wrote:Frankly, me and Nancy both agree that N&M basically never flips town here. FormerFish rolled scum. His roleclaim is garbage and totally unbelievable, regardless of what BEF flips FF has seemed highly informed about the alignments of profii/BEF throughout this day, and he has clearly gone into this dayphase with an agenda.

BEF's AtE was moderately effective; maybe it was flail but frankly I have seen BEF under pressure as both town and scum and I've never seen him like this so this is just something outside his usual range of mafia. He seems really tilted.

It is difficult to see Profii as scum here for a few reasons, but there are aberrations in his play this game that raise serious questions for me. Profii is someone who fakeclaims like every other game, and then he says he just... doesn't use a hood shot because he doesn't think hoods are useful? That is concerning to me more than the activity/presence argument.

But this day has started to seriously drag and there seems to be a pretty wide consensus in the reasoning behind getting a BEF flip despite several individual reads.

-d
You are wrong. I started in a hole for you and every time i try to get out you both heap dirt on top of me. We are going to flip town and you, Nancy and PP will either feel stupid about your inability to read me, or you are scum and this is a moot point and conversation. I dont feel like you ever wanted a dialogue with us, you wanted to grandstand and show how silly and stupid we are while you guys are just the cats meow.
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Post Post #9122 (isolation #676) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 9117, DrewVa wrote:In Ok 2, BEF was never this survivalistic. Contrast BEF’s reaction to his wagon with town!Ram and town!TLK. He is suggesting lynches on pretty much anyone but him and the fact the he suggested us as a viable lynch, PRE flip, for completely NIA reasons, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. Therefore, I’m okay with ending the day, if people want us too.

Even contrast BEF with Elsa who only pushed SS and N & M, as opposed to half the playerlist. I’m not townclearing Elsa for that but his reaction to potentially being wagoned D4, sounds a gazillion times townier than BEF’s here.
For me it comes down to the fact that we arent questioning befs n1 action with giving the fruit to profii. We are questioning what happened with the fruit once profii had it though. So for me, the fact that the chain of custody was broken with profii and BEF told the truth about his n1 actions profii becomes a better lynch imo.
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Post Post #9124 (isolation #677) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:40 pm

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In post 9120, DrewVa wrote:Why the ovvereaction? You aren’t even getting lynched today.
I feel like i am not making a big deal. Your slot is the one asking people if they want to walk away from the 1v1 to lynch us.

You say things that I respond to, thats how this works. Your posts are bigger, so it cant be size youre basing your opinion of off, so is it tone? What makes it seem like im making a big deal abou tthis?
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Post Post #9126 (isolation #678) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:45 pm

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Hey BEF, can you at least tell me im not seeing things when I feel like Drew is just gaslighting the shit out of me here? Like all the one liners that can only go to attack my credibility?
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Post Post #9130 (isolation #679) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:51 pm

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In post 9128, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9124, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9120, DrewVa wrote:Why the ovvereaction? You aren’t even getting lynched today.
I feel like i am not making a big deal. Your slot is the one asking people if they want to walk away from the 1v1 to lynch us.

You say things that I respond to, thats how this works. Your posts are bigger, so it cant be size youre basing your opinion of off, so is it tone? What makes it seem like im making a big deal abou tthis?
It’s obviously not happening but if you out hyper-survivalist BEF, that could change things but otherwise, you’re totally overreacting, due to BEF excessive flailing.
I dont know what you mean.
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Post Post #9133 (isolation #680) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:54 pm

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In post 9129, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9126, Nev and Max wrote:Hey BEF, can you at least tell me im not seeing things when I feel like Drew is just gaslighting the shit out of me here? Like all the one liners that can only go to attack my credibility?
They've been playing this way to me as well. I could say

"It's cold in here" they would reply with something like,
"it could be cold but it's probably hot"
and then something changes I would say,
"oh now I'm hot"
and drewva would reply
"Actually you're cold, we know how/what you are, but we feel it's hot"
I feel like its how they are marking their mislynches. They might accuse me of knowing more about your alignment than we do by saying that, but I know our lynch will be a mislynch and with how hard they are pushing you to be first I see a world where profii doesnt get lynched tomorrow and they hard push for us.
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Post Post #9137 (isolation #681) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:57 pm

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In post 9135, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9130, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9128, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9124, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9120, DrewVa wrote:Why the ovvereaction? You aren’t even getting lynched today.
I feel like i am not making a big deal. Your slot is the one asking people if they want to walk away from the 1v1 to lynch us.

You say things that I respond to, thats how this works. Your posts are bigger, so it cant be size youre basing your opinion of off, so is it tone? What makes it seem like im making a big deal abou tthis?
It’s obviously not happening but if you out hyper-survivalist BEF, that could change things but otherwise, you’re totally overreacting, due to BEF excessive flailing.
I dont know what you mean.
Until recently BEF wasn’t close to acting scummier than you. That’s clearly changed, and I don’t even think you can find a way top it, which means you’re not getting lynched.


So, no. I definitely think BEF should be today’s lynch and I didn’t before.
Man, i was hoping you were going to show me examples of where ive been overreacting recently.
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Post Post #9140 (isolation #682) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:01 pm

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In post 9120, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9116, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9113, DrewVa wrote:Frankly, me and Nancy both agree that N&M basically never flips town here. FormerFish rolled scum. His roleclaim is garbage and totally unbelievable, regardless of what BEF flips FF has seemed highly informed about the alignments of profii/BEF throughout this day, and he has clearly gone into this dayphase with an agenda.

BEF's AtE was moderately effective; maybe it was flail but frankly I have seen BEF under pressure as both town and scum and I've never seen him like this so this is just something outside his usual range of mafia. He seems really tilted.

It is difficult to see Profii as scum here for a few reasons, but there are aberrations in his play this game that raise serious questions for me. Profii is someone who fakeclaims like every other game, and then he says he just... doesn't use a hood shot because he doesn't think hoods are useful? That is concerning to me more than the activity/presence argument.

But this day has started to seriously drag and there seems to be a pretty wide consensus in the reasoning behind getting a BEF flip despite several individual reads.

-d
You are wrong. I started in a hole for you and every time i try to get out you both heap dirt on top of me. We are going to flip town and you, Nancy and PP will either feel stupid about your inability to read me, or you are scum and this is a moot point and conversation. I dont feel like you ever wanted a dialogue with us, you wanted to grandstand and show how silly and stupid we are while you guys are just the cats meow.
Why the ovvereaction? You aren’t even getting lynched today.
How, in the post you quoted, was i overreacting?
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Post Post #9141 (isolation #683) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:03 pm

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You have consistently pushed us with little to no explination. When you get called out about certain aspects of your read on us you walk it back and then double down on other aspects at the same time. You repeat inflamatory posts that were already addressed in a way that can only go to discredit me. Your whole play towards us is following an agenda. You even tried to say we should die today because we were making to much noise. The only noise I was making was calling you out.
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Post Post #9144 (isolation #684) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 9143, BrightEyedFish wrote:Oh and town, I belive there is another gifter or such a role out there, I received a gift and BOON said it didn't come from a BOONus round.
Dude, didnt profii mention that if he gave out all his modifers that a prize would go out?>
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Post Post #9149 (isolation #685) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 8996, profii wrote:
In post 8991, PenguinPower wrote:Hey profii, can you answer these:
In post 8827, DrewVa wrote:-What was his reasoning in choosing to use his ascetic shot at all? Why would he make Una ascetic? How was that a pro-town decision?
-Why did he not use his neighborhood shot last night? Wouldn't he want to prove that the shot was real, given that it was given to him by scum?
-Why has he not been more forthcoming about the timing of his neighborhood with Nero, given the timing of Nero's neighborhood shot is significant for understand who possibly fed scum +1 charges n1?
I got told there would be a Boonus prize if I gave out all my mods - it’s been confirmed that someone in the game has received a prize but idk who or what

I’ve never seen a hood be worth pursuing - like every one I’ve been in barely gets past 1 page etc..so I didn’t care too much - I haven’t really been tracking the claims so I guess if someone has a good idea about using it to prove something then that’ll be better than going into a hood imo

The nero hood happened when I checked with boon about the S_S hood shot, iirc that was technically day 4 but the action presumably got submitted n3 I think

I’m not familiar with the +1 to scum or on top of the boonus prizes in general tbh so you tell me about that
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Post Post #9150 (isolation #686) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 pm

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In post 9146, DrewVa wrote:
@Profii,
on a Green flip, I encourage you to neighborize Thanos. On a red flip, I encourage you to use the neighborize shot on a semi-random target (that is not Creature or Una, obviously)

@Creature,
checking N&M is fine on a green flip, although part of me is tempted to have you check PenguinPower, to validate the reliability of his fruit results for the town and allow for a larger mechanical townblock. I leave that to your judgment, in terms of which result you see as more valuable from your POV. On a red flip, obviously you should just pick your own target.

@N&M,
in a world in which you are town, on a green flip you should be on PenguinPower tonight. If there is a red flip, you can do whatever.

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And what if we are in a world where your behavior towards us has poisoned anything you have to say?
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Post Post #9152 (isolation #687) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 pm

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Ive been getting some killer page tops here lately
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Post Post #9155 (isolation #688) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:12 pm

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In post 9145, BrightEyedFish wrote:I suspect perhaps the gifter is scum saw my frustration with drewVa and that I was going to be lynched and figured I was use it on DrewVa, they were right and I don't care.
Profii didnt know where it was going. He seemed to indicate it was random
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Post Post #9157 (isolation #689) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:13 pm

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In post 9154, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9150, Nev and Max wrote:And what if we are in a world where your behavior towards us has poisoned anything you have to say?
Doesn't really matter, if BEF is telling the truth we'll flip green and then you will know Penguin is mechanically locked town and the strongest investigative, thus making you not being on him tonight a de facto scum claim if he were to die.

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Thats fair, i guess your death hasnt sunk in yet.
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Post Post #9159 (isolation #690) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:15 pm

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In post 9156, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9153, BrightEyedFish wrote:Because I was hoping for this outcome.
j/w but do you feel like I was unfair to you in any way this game? I spent quite a bit of time evaluating the merits of the case, I asked you for other cases, and got a wide range of town input. Why do you seem so personally tilted toward our slot?

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Post Post #9161 (isolation #691) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:17 pm

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In post 9160, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9156, DrewVa wrote:
In post 9153, BrightEyedFish wrote:Because I was hoping for this outcome.
j/w but do you feel like I was unfair to you in any way this game? I spent quite a bit of time evaluating the merits of the case, I asked you for other cases, and got a wide range of town input. Why do you seem so personally tilted toward our slot?

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Because you said "if"
What was all that about again? It feels so long ago that we had that discussion, day 1 right?
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Post Post #9163 (isolation #692) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:20 pm

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In post 9162, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 161, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 157, DrewVa wrote:
In post 156, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 155, DrewVa wrote:
In post 154, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 153, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 92, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe not scum, but she isn't town.
*They say in a game confirmed to not have Multiball and hinted on page 1 to possibly have 5 scum.*
Now that I've read through the rules, SK is in the pool of roles so. ????
And if there’s an SK in the setup, they are just as likely to have read the sample role PM as not.

So,
if
town wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.
:facepalm: Sorry. :lol:
What do you mean with "if"?
???

What part of that do you not understand?
Why did you use the word "
If
" as
if
you are just guessing what a Town Role PM says.
lololol


I remember now
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Post Post #9249 (isolation #693) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:51 am

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In post 9214, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9212, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, but I'm an exception to the rule.

Besides, you claimed a gifted Venge shot and SUDDENLY Mafia use a Dayvig ability. You thought you were dying anyway so you wanted to cover your scum ability about it to drive distrust on the Boonus winners. You didn't take into account that the Mod would out it OR that'd you would live to tell the tale.

#Fishy
I don't know how to defend myself against that. Scum is probably thinking I am there MVP this game so it probably best to lynch me anyways and give them another leg up.
This is you running a white flag up the pole, along with a little AtE thrown in there for fun.

We are voting BEF.
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Post Post #9250 (isolation #694) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 9216, BrightEyedFish wrote:but i'm assuming scum were more worried about DrewVa than me
Scum should have been worried more about the people who have actions being able to use those actions to make the lynch pool smaller and smaller.

Why go after Drew when we have 3-4 investigative roles?
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Post Post #9251 (isolation #695) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:55 am

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In post 9219, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9198, UnaBombaH wrote:Waitwaitwait.
Did DrewVa townlock anyone before dying/by flipping?
Helps prove PP town I think.
Yes, as long as PP actually got loyal he's town.
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Post Post #9252 (isolation #696) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 9220, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9199, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9197, RCEnigma wrote:I would have preferred you resolved Elsa with the fruit but on Bef's scumflip I think she's town anyways.
Who do you have as scum if I flip town?
Why are you saying if, when your lynch is assured?
Funny that BEF slips on the word "If."

Shouldn't it have been "
when
I flip town(...)"
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Post Post #9253 (isolation #697) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:02 am

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In post 9246, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9230, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9228, BrightEyedFish wrote:profii is already confscum now based on DrewVa/Creature town flip and PP's conftown.
How?

Why does scum!profii make me loyal?
why does scum!me send town!profii sticky fruit?
It's already been pointed out that you role is negative utility. Scum could easily have given out the fruit in hopes that profii would be investigated that night, investigation comes back fuzzy because of the fruit, and we run profii up early in the game.

I mean shit, he claimed early as fuck didn't he? When did profii claim?
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Post Post #9254 (isolation #698) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:03 am

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In post 9248, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9247, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9246, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9230, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9228, BrightEyedFish wrote:profii is already confscum now based on DrewVa/Creature town flip and PP's conftown.
How?

Why does scum!profii make me loyal?
why does scum!me send town!profii sticky fruit?
That's not an answer to my question.

who knows why scumprofii would send you loyal?
maybe towncred? what good does loyal give to scum when profii needs successful actions for his bonus thing? or just for WIFOM purposes.
His bonus was earned by giving out his inventions. You seemed quite happy pretending you received the gift.

Is there gift something we should out to the group if town has it? Profii, there isn't a clue available to say what the prize was?
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Post Post #9256 (isolation #699) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:35 am

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In post 9255, PenguinPower wrote:Oh...so you've come around and it's now best to flip BEF first...
Drew flipped town, we were on you and you didn't die. We reassessed. Shut up.

We still dont like profii because there's too much out there as unknowns. However, the idea that BEF claims to have a killing ability and then scum just happens to have that ability and can further frame him is like assuming the hoof beats you hear is a unipegasus not a horse.
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Post Post #9259 (isolation #700) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:48 am

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In post 9189, BrightEyedFish wrote:I think someone was wanting to shut creature up...
Profii or N&M are my guesses.
Or you wanted to make sure that creature couldn't conftown someone, like us, because that was a proposed idea and us conftown would severely undercut your ability to push our mislynching today or ever.
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Post Post #9273 (isolation #701) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 9272, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9252, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9220, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9199, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9197, RCEnigma wrote:I would have preferred you resolved Elsa with the fruit but on Bef's scumflip I think she's town anyways.
Who do you have as scum if I flip town?
Why are you saying if, when your lynch is assured?
Funny that BEF slips on the word "If."

Shouldn't it have been "
when
I flip town(...)"
touche.
Is this just you claiming outright man? Seems like it.
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Post Post #9278 (isolation #702) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:01 pm

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In post 9276, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9273, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9272, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9252, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9220, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9199, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9197, RCEnigma wrote:I would have preferred you resolved Elsa with the fruit but on Bef's scumflip I think she's town anyways.
Who do you have as scum if I flip town?
Why are you saying if, when your lynch is assured?
Funny that BEF slips on the word "If."

Shouldn't it have been "
when
I flip town(...)"
touche.
Is this just you claiming outright man? Seems like it.
No, this is me admitting the silliness of my "if" push on drewva. I thought that's what you referencing
I mean technically you called it a scum slip and it was the reason drew had to die for you. Your reasoning was that scum say if because it's not going to happen. So if you are attempting the argument that you called someone scum for earlier.... Do you need me to finish there?
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Post Post #9280 (isolation #703) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:04 pm

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In post 9279, PenguinPower wrote:Dave claim if you something have to claim. I'm voting to end the day when I wake up in the morning. BEF is just verbal diarrheaing like he did yesterday.
Has everyone else had a chance to chime in?
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Post Post #9293 (isolation #704) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 9286, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9285, PenguinPower wrote:Remember that a vengeful action didn't actually occur, and scum would know that without your flip it would not appear vengeful.

p-edit

No...*sigh* we went over this yesterday, so I'm not going to do it again.
Ok. Just humor me then please.

What would have to happen for you to not want to lynch me today?
An act of God.
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Post Post #9294 (isolation #705) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 9291, PenguinPower wrote:No. Dave needs to have an opportunity to claim results.

Also, I'm likely dead tonight so...I'm going to decide if I want to say anything else and we can do this tomorrow.

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Jingle has posted a few times. Thanos hasn't.
No you won't.
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Post Post #9303 (isolation #706) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:38 pm

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In post 9298, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9294, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9291, PenguinPower wrote:No. Dave needs to have an opportunity to claim results.

Also, I'm likely dead tonight so...I'm going to decide if I want to say anything else and we can do this tomorrow.

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Jingle has posted a few times. Thanos hasn't.
No you won't.
No I won't what?
Be dead. At least not necessarily. We have slots that could die before yours. And we had a hunch that the kill was going to have to down with us on some level so we decided to holster since drew told us to go on you, but you are scum reading us. Scum wouldn't take you out because you're doing their job for them. Creature was set to clear us, and we could use our save on him because of him being ascetic.

So we saved our shot and if you can get more charges we can use you still.
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Post Post #9305 (isolation #707) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:40 pm

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In post 9303, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9298, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9294, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9291, PenguinPower wrote:No. Dave needs to have an opportunity to claim results.

Also, I'm likely dead tonight so...I'm going to decide if I want to say anything else and we can do this tomorrow.

p-edit

Jingle has posted a few times. Thanos hasn't.
No you won't.
No I won't what?
Be dead. At least not necessarily. We have slots that could die before yours. And we had a hunch that the kill was going to have to do with us on some level so we decided to holster since drew told us to go on you, but you are scum reading us. Scum wouldn't take you out because you're doing their job for them. Creature was set to clear us, and we couldnt use our save on him because of him being ascetic.

So we saved our shot and if you can get more charges we can use you still.
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Post Post #9306 (isolation #708) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 9304, PenguinPower wrote:Umm....
In post 9256, Nev and Max wrote:we were on you and you didn't die.
I lied about being on you to see what would happen.
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Post Post #9309 (isolation #709) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:42 pm

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In post 9306, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9304, PenguinPower wrote:Umm....
In post 9256, Nev and Max wrote:we were on you and you didn't die.
I lied about being on you to see what would happen.
And I was right. You're still here and the person who was supposed to clear us is dead, and we still have our shot, so kinda fucks scum tonight don't it.
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Post Post #9313 (isolation #710) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:45 pm

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In post 9311, PenguinPower wrote:Yes...it seems makes sense mechanically. I don't see why you lied about being on me though.
I just wanted to get in on the action.
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Post Post #9333 (isolation #711) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:13 pm

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In post 9314, PenguinPower wrote:Yeah...but now it comes across as you don't want me to out info before the day ends.
What?
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Post Post #9340 (isolation #712) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 9335, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9333, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9314, PenguinPower wrote:Yeah...but now it comes across as you don't want me to out info before the day ends.
What?
Sorry...the fact that you said you were on me, and then I said I was debating the need to say something else I was going to be killed, and then you retracting said "on me" claim and claiming you could be on me tonight, makes it seem like you don't want to me to say what I might say.

This is why you shouldn't lie as town.
I was just saying that your death isn't a foregone conclusion.

If you have something to say by all means say it. Hell, if anything this should give you more reason to speak your mind because I can still protect tonight.
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Post Post #9341 (isolation #713) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:23 pm

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Or with creature dead we can figure out how to corral scum away from a certain group.
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Post Post #9349 (isolation #714) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 9342, PenguinPower wrote:Fair. I would like to say it right before we end the day, though.
Are you goin to yell out SHAZAM and turn into a super hero?
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Post Post #9350 (isolation #715) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 9344, Elsa Jay wrote:But I wanna do it. I need the huge ass adrenaline rush.
Just try crack. It'll do that for ya.
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Post Post #9356 (isolation #716) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:46 pm

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In post 9355, Elsa Jay wrote:MAZAHS.
How dare you summon Black Adam...

Jesus, it's like these princesses don't understand consequences.

Side note. I'm pretty sure my laptop just fried itself...
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Post Post #9358 (isolation #717) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 9357, Elsa Jay wrote:Clearly You don't remember that MAZAHS is specifically Earth 3 Shazam Alexander Luthor.
I was always more of a Marvel guy to be honest.
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Post Post #9376 (isolation #718) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:57 pm

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In post 9373, BrightEyedFish wrote:This thread died with DrewVa.
I mean. Everyone spoke who wanted to speak. Right now it seems like we are just waiting for people to vote to end the day.

Do you have anything you wanna talk about while your neck is being measured?
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Post Post #9387 (isolation #719) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 9384, Nero Cain wrote:Why do you want his permission?
PP wanted to say something before the day was ended.
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Post Post #9422 (isolation #720) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:44 pm

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In post 9418, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 9417, PenguinPower wrote:If I die tonight, I want Jingle, Xtoxm, and Nev to claim whether or not they received fruit.

I forgot. I did want to say that. One of them should.
Why can’t they claim the fruit before day end?
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Post Post #9466 (isolation #721) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:09 am

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In post 9465, RCEnigma wrote:Prediction for the day is that we flip Profii and he flips town and jingle laughs and laughs ....and laughs and laughs and laughs.
You think profii is town?
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Post Post #9467 (isolation #722) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:11 am

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We could finish our mass claim since I think 2 people are still holding g out for some reason.
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Post Post #9522 (isolation #723) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 9474, Jingle wrote:
In post 9467, Nev and Max wrote:We could finish our mass claim since I think 2 people are still holding g out for some reason.
Nero and Xtox.
Did gamma claim? They we're being the most shady around claiming
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Post Post #9523 (isolation #724) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:54 pm

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In post 9478, davesaz wrote:
In post 9472, Xtoxm wrote:i got the fruit, yay
Unconfirmable, unless PP had some way of announcing target.
He said it was between 3 people. We have spoken and didn't claim it. Xtom was one of the 3 people it could have gone to. Unless we get a counter claim on fruiting xtom should be clear.
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Post Post #9524 (isolation #725) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 9479, davesaz wrote:Nev & Max, I don't remember if you have any modifiers?
Ok.
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Post Post #9525 (isolation #726) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 9499, Elsa Jay wrote:So I guess Nev is legitimately the only Town Protective in this basically role madness. Sigh.
You're looking more and more like scum the more people flip green .
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Post Post #9534 (isolation #727) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:56 pm

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In post 9526, davesaz wrote:
In post 9524, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9479, davesaz wrote:Nev & Max, I don't remember if you have any modifiers?
Ok.
That was a request to say what modifiers you have.
Ok.
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Post Post #9579 (isolation #728) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:37 am

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In post 9500, Jingle wrote:didn't want to have to fight Nancy on that anyway. It's exhausting trying to convince her her townreads are wrong.
Preach.
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Post Post #9580 (isolation #729) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:41 am

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In post 9532, Thanos wrote:
In post 9525, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9499, Elsa Jay wrote:So I guess Nev is legitimately the only Town Protective in this basically role madness. Sigh.
You're looking more and more like scum the more people flip green .
What's the case on EJ?
Like other than she is a claimed traitor/Miller and has been doing shit all to help us figure the game out?

How is what she has done all game protown? The lies, the confusion, the play all points to her being scum and the rest of you being too snowed over to realize that she's played you all.
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Post Post #9581 (isolation #730) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 9533, Thanos wrote:
In post 9528, profii wrote:the actual thing going on is PP said he was going to target 1 of 3, one of whom was scum, so PP had to die in case he did target the scum in the 3 -> Jingle
Why not N&M? You're town on them because they're the only claimed protective so far?
I feel like the is the post when you started to realize that your mislynching are starting to dry up.

Do you scum read us still?
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Post Post #9582 (isolation #731) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:44 am

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In post 9543, Jingle wrote:
In post 9534, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9526, davesaz wrote:
In post 9524, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9479, davesaz wrote:Nev & Max, I don't remember if you have any modifiers?
Ok.
That was a request to say what modifiers you have.
Ok.
So you're an OK doctor? farseinating.
Yeah, our rating on Google is a solid 3 stars
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Post Post #9583 (isolation #732) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 9545, Thanos wrote:Who's townreading N&M and why?
D3 they were all up for lynching TLK, but when town wanted Smart to hammer they flail-attacked Dave and tried to shift a lynch towards that at the end.
Also in D4 they were heavily arguing for an EJ lynch.
Back on this shit again? Man you guys must be getting g desperate to keep us a viable mislynch.
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Post Post #9585 (isolation #733) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:46 am

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In post 9550, Thanos wrote:
In post 9545, Thanos wrote: D3 they were all up for lynching TLK, but when town wanted Smart to hammer they flail-attacked Dave and tried to shift a lynch towards that at the end.
Also in D4 they were heavily arguing for an EJ lynch.
You see them doing all this as town? Towncase their recent day play?
You assertion is based on a faulty premise that you keep pushing.

We were for lynching both Elsa and S_S.

We said that at the time.

We said that the first time you started pushing this bullshit.

We are saying it again now that you have become a shitty skipping record going back to the same shitty read over and over again spouting nonsense that you think will sound good.

We were never against the S_S lynch, we just wanted Elsa first as we thought scum was most likely there.

The fact that you keep trying to fit our square peg into that round hole is telling.
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Post Post #9586 (isolation #734) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:51 am

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In post 9551, Jingle wrote:for clarification, they retracted the expected doc claim on PP to say they holstered and were gunna doc PP the next night. Logically that was attempt to make scum shoot not PP the next night. Why have PP doc claim if you know PP gonna die? Why kill PP if you claim youre gonna doc him? Seems bad, seems not scum.
We were on PP the night before, creature was killed instead.

Saying we holstered was a clear attempt to try and draw the nk away from PP.

This makes me think that they have some scum in the claimed roles.
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Post Post #9587 (isolation #735) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 9560, Thanos wrote:Nothing solid yet except I feel N&M is scum.

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Post Post #9588 (isolation #736) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:05 am

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In post 9584, Thanos wrote:Did you get fruit from PP?
We've already said we. We did not.
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Post Post #9602 (isolation #737) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 9601, Formerfish wrote:
In post 9595, Jingle wrote:The only real viable lynch is profii.
Penguin wanted profii today. Maybe scum killed him to throw shade at me and prevent him from pushing the lynch on profii.
Yup.
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Post Post #9603 (isolation #738) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 9597, Thanos wrote:
In post 7525, Jingle wrote:EJ is a scum traitor with no special modifiers, meaning Creat/dave/drewva/xtoxm were all stopped by an independent source or are lying AND has been claimed to have received the Weak modifier.

EJ is town who lies compulsively and plays like a survivor regardless of role PM.
@Jingle: What's the deal with Jay? I think the universe where Jay is lying and is scum Ascetic/Commuter is more probable than an independent source stopping all of them, no?
So you agree with me here?
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Post Post #9605 (isolation #739) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:19 am

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In post 9604, Jingle wrote:Scum killed Penguin because he was the most reliable investigative role we had.
I'm just replaying the conversation PP and I had about where we go when BEF flips town. PP was very clear that profiis head will be in the noose today.

And this might be a stupid question, but why not Dave or RCE? Are you just saying that because we "knew" PP still had a shot while we don't know about the other 2?
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Post Post #9629 (isolation #740) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:23 am

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In post 9621, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9601, Formerfish wrote:
In post 9595, Jingle wrote:The only real viable lynch is profii.
Penguin wanted profii today. Maybe scum killed him to throw shade at me and prevent him from pushing the lynch on profii.
How would killing PP throw shade on you?
Because PP was scumreading us along with Drewva. I get a little anxious when all the people scumreading me start dying at night.

I feel like killing PP could have been done with the idea that it would either implicate our slot, or allow scum to push us easier because "we're killing all the town scumreading us."
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Post Post #9630 (isolation #741) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:37 am

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In post 9622, Nero Cain wrote:I don't really like how Jingle was trying hard as F to lynch N+M and now claiming he's town.
Where was this happening? I dont remember jingle coming at us at all.
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Post Post #9631 (isolation #742) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 9625, Nero Cain wrote:So my question is why couldn't have TLK gotten fruit some other way. Who did Proffi and BEF actually send fruit to?
Bef sent his fruit to profii. Profii claimed to send his fruit to PP. The fruit went to TLK instead and theoretically died with him.

BEF flipped town and had plenty of time to out info he had if he had it.

If we 1v1 bef/profii and bef comes up town... Do I need to finish there or do you get it?
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Post Post #9668 (isolation #743) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 9632, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9630, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9622, Nero Cain wrote:I don't really like how Jingle was trying hard as F to lynch N+M and now claiming he's town.
Where was this happening? I dont remember jingle coming at us at all.
I remember Jingle though it's possible that I could misremember. You do remember getting pushed right?
In post 9631, Nev and Max wrote:If we 1v1 bef/profii and bef comes up town... Do I need to finish there or do you get it?
I really don't.

TLK gets fruit and we don't know how. So either Proffi sent Fruit to TLK and not PP and he's lying for some reason...or?

The only way I see it as a 1v1 is if we are saying that there can only be one fruit vendor but Proffi seems to be giving up anyways so...
I remember fighting with PP, Drewva and Elsa. Those were fun times.

The 1v1 is in the fact that someone had to have lied about giving fruit. BEF had plenty of time to admit if he had more than one shot, and as town would have admitted that. Profii is the lynch pin in the BEF/PP/TLK square. All three of them are dead and town. Profii has a role that allows him to give out modifiers that are already part of the game because of the boonus rounds. His entire role is probably fabricated. Anyone wanna say they got the bonus from Profii that was supposed to be giving out after he gave out the 3 modifiers he had?
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Post Post #9669 (isolation #744) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:37 pm

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In post 9635, Jingle wrote:And also I'm the Queen of England
::Tips hat:: M'lady.
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Post Post #9671 (isolation #745) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 9645, profii wrote:^^^ especially as my role has some validation on the loyal pp claim and ascetic una claim...
How does that validate you as town? Other people have already pointed out that ascetic is an antitown modifier, and giving loyal to PP just means his ability fails on scum right?
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Post Post #9672 (isolation #746) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 9646, Elsa Jay wrote:My votes already on Profii, if anyone cares to know.
Same here.
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Post Post #9674 (isolation #747) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:00 pm

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In post 9660, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9657, Jingle wrote:If scum has a hidden factional redirection that Boon hasn't even hinted at, I'm not gonna feel bad when scum destroys us because the premise of the game was breached.
but this isn't an open game. Maybe semi-open?
Dude. This whole line of posting from you just screams feined cluelessness. Like you are trying to make assumptions about the game that shouldn't be made.

I think we should lynch this after we lynch profii.
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Post Post #9675 (isolation #748) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:03 pm

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In post 9664, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9661, davesaz wrote:It's booneytoons, therefore it follows the booneytoons guidelines.
I get that, and we have to be told about scum factional abilities like their one to put their guy in the day reps?
In post 9662, davesaz wrote:There's also the point that Profii's role supposedly enabled whatever happened to DrewVa,
???
Bro. This was a huge thing. Have you not been keeping up at all?

If profii successfully gave (wait a minute. Was the bonus based off you giving all 3 modifiers? How did you get that done if one of them never made it to the person who was supposed to get it i.e. creatures loud that never got to him.) out all 3 modifiers someone got a random bonus prize. BEF claimed to have received it and it was a vengeful shot. He said he was going to kill Drew with it. Then bef didn't die and drew did.
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Post Post #9676 (isolation #749) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 9670, Jingle wrote:Actually you should address me as your highness, or if you prefer, Betty.
My apologies, Betty.
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Post Post #9677 (isolation #750) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 9673, Elsa Jay wrote:Finally me and Nev agree on something.
Still think you have a high scum equity. Glad you are down to bus your partner.
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Post Post #9679 (isolation #751) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:19 pm

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In post 9678, Elsa Jay wrote:Please, I'm more of a Serial Killer then anything.
Serial killers have the ability to kill, and still have to play well enough to avoid being nked and lynched.

You have been mostly not playing and when you do it's like shit. Somehow youve avoided a lynch thus far, and if you are town scum wouldn't kill you if someone paid them, and if you're scum it's not like you're going to commit suicide any night.
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Post Post #9682 (isolation #752) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:32 pm

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In post 9680, Elsa Jay wrote:I avoid the lynch and night kill because I'm a boss. I thought that was obvious.
Guess I'm more of a boss since I'm actually town so avoiding the nk for me is a real thing, and I've fought off some stupid pressure on multiple days and I'm still here with you.
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Post Post #9686 (isolation #753) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:38 pm

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One that you put on your own back by claiming traitor and then Miller.

No one who has scum read me has been able to give an actual reason that stood up to me calling it out. You claimed a role that mechanically needs to die at some point.

Shit, if you had been worth half a fuck this game I might view you differently, but you have done almost 0 game solving. The fact that you have over 500 posts blows my mind since I feel like all you've done is lolpost this entire game.
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Post Post #9688 (isolation #754) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 9685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9665, davesaz wrote:Give 3 gifts and something nice happens.
Yeah the ideas out there so:
I'm thinking mafia might have a dayvig as a variant role. If so profii is confscum.
So the vig on drew would take place of the lynch, and go straight to night right? Dayvig could just be profiis actual role, the while gifting thing could be bullshit they made up after seeing the boonus round prizes. The "special ability" given out could just be what his role actually is.
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Post Post #9693 (isolation #755) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 9689, Gamma Emerald wrote:Or they are true claiming. I intend to ask as many questions as I can until I get a definitive answer about what is and isn't possible here. So PLEASE DO NOT END THE DAY.
You get that if profii is true claiming as an inventor then that would mean there wasn't a role available to redirect the fruit profii sent PP to go to TLK instead.

I have a thought that tlk was sent the fruit so that they could asceticize him so no one could try and check his supersaint claim.
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Post Post #9696 (isolation #756) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:30 pm

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Pretty sure profii already said he did them both in one night?

I remember that being talked about saying boon said that the fruit was a separate thing from the loud prof could send
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Post Post #9698 (isolation #757) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:40 pm

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In post 2299, profii wrote:I can modify 1 person each night with these 3 thingys
and give them +1 shot


(Ascetic, Loyal, Loud)
I'm looking for when profii explained his bonus ability and realized I missed the bold the first time around. Profiis role is exactly what the boonus round provides, including the added 1 shot for the recipients.
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Post Post #9700 (isolation #758) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:44 pm

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In post 2311, profii wrote:Loyal means only works on same alignment so if we had a fruit vendor I could make them loyal and they basically go round inno’ing people
I know the scum role cop was lynched day 1, but holy shit this is some Nostradamus level precognition.
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Post Post #9702 (isolation #759) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:50 pm

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In post 9701, Gamma Emerald wrote:What's your point, genuine question.
I haven't reached one yet, still going through their iso for something I'm actually looking for.

You don't find it odd that he describes the exact situation that ends up happening?
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Post Post #9704 (isolation #760) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:54 pm

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In post 9697, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean as why Creature didn't get loud
He probably louded a scummate
You need to walk me through your rationale on that one. What benefit would there be to louding one of his teammates?

I don't feel like looking for this myself, but were Una and PP informed they got modifiers?
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Post Post #9707 (isolation #761) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:58 pm

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In post 9699, Gamma Emerald wrote:Interesting, thoughts on the combined utility with Grifter?
I'm not being pedantic here, I really have no clue what you're asking in your last few posts. Eli5?
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Post Post #9709 (isolation #762) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:02 pm

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In post 9705, Gamma Emerald wrote:Getting the good thing?
What?
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Post Post #9711 (isolation #763) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:06 pm

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In post 9708, Gamma Emerald wrote:My general direction is seeing if anything you're pointing out means stuff for profii's alignment
Right now I'm looking for his post about the special ability. The things I'm posting are either parts of that or just things that I'm finding interesting myself in connection with profiis play and his stance right now of where the game stands.

I guess I'm looking for an inacuracy on profiis part that could lead us to his teammates.

Listen. If you're going to be a dick, I just won't engage with you. I'm not following your posts because I feel like they are vague and I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Am I being a dick to you right now? You've been treating me this way the entire game. Either be civil or fuck off.
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Post Post #9714 (isolation #764) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:12 pm

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Dave I'm pretty sure there was an earlier post profii made talking about the extra prize. That's the one I'm looking for.
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Post Post #9715 (isolation #765) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:14 pm

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In post 9712, Gamma Emerald wrote:9699 was genuine interest as I thought you has something. If you're going to be this sensitive maybe you should ignore me because I don't think interacting with you will help me much in that case.
You too? Man I love being poked and then chastised for getting upset about it. You've done this repeatedly this game to me. Do you have some sort of issue with me personally? Like I'm just trying to figure out why you have such a short fuse when it comes to me here.
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Post Post #9717 (isolation #766) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:28 pm

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In post 5014, profii wrote:
In post 4947, RCEnigma wrote:I'm mistaken actually, boon bank roles can be variants and in our large there can be 2 variants. Not sure what that means honestly, I don't have any context for what variants roles are.
I am a variant role. I checked this with Boon. I claimed inventor - I can add modifiers to people, I've used 2/3. So I occupy one of those variant slots
This post makes me wonder why all of a sudden profii is talking like he has no clue about the variants.
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Post Post #9718 (isolation #767) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:30 pm

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In post 5032, profii wrote:
In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.

Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.

so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)
Obviously gets it here too.
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Post Post #9719 (isolation #768) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:54 pm

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In post 8996, profii wrote:I got told there would be a Boonus prize if I gave out all my mods - it’s been confirmed that someone in the game has received a prize but idk who or what
Here we go. Giving out all your mods isn't dependent on them actually receiving them, just on you attempting? This is what makes me think that all the is just a bullshit ploy built to hide what profii actually is, a scum day vig.
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Post Post #9720 (isolation #769) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:58 pm

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In post 9716, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't recall where I've done it earlier and I apologize for any past instances. This time however I'm actually trying to figure shit out so you not getting things that I feel are pretty clear kinda frustrates me.
Maybe take a step back and realize you aren't being as clear as you think. I've been referring to the extra prize given by profii as an extra prize, when you called it the good thing in a post by itself I didn't know what you meant. I didn't get the question about creature and I asked. Your posts didn't explain anything of what you were saying. And I could post where you've done this prior, but I'm not sure it matters yet.

I wasnt being nasty to you, so I'm not sure why you react to someone asking you to clarify something the way you did.
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Post Post #9726 (isolation #770) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:13 am

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In post 9721, profii wrote:Also just to note - my prize went to a contestant AFTER I gave out 3 inventions - so presumably on day 4 - the thing that the scum got to do DrewVa with appeared day 3.
Can you expand on this a bit more?
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Post Post #9728 (isolation #771) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:16 am

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In post 9722, Nero Cain wrote:How dare I ask questions about something I don't understand! Just follow the hive mind. Not like anything bad has ever happened when one blindly follows another.

Jingle is basically saying "we don't know how TLK got sticky fruit, so lets lynch Profii." but was doing a kinda shit job of explaining that.
In post 9675, Nev and Max wrote:Bro. This was a huge thing. Have you not been keeping up at all?
Yes, but I didn't remember that whole Profii claiming that once he uses his gifts he gets some kinda of prize. Sorry?
I'm not shitting on you for asking a question. I'm shitting on you for the questions you're asking. They are showing almost no knowledge of some pretty high level events in the game, which is something that is going to concern me.
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Post Post #9729 (isolation #772) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:20 am

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In post 9726, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9721, profii wrote:Also just to note - my prize went to a contestant AFTER I gave out 3 inventions - so presumably on day 4 - the thing that the scum got to do DrewVa with appeared day 3.
Can you expand on this a bit more?
In post 9727, profii wrote:what do you want to know
"The thing that the scum got to do Drewva with appeared on day 3."

I want you to use more words formed into sentences to further explain what you meant by the words you previously used to try and make a point.
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Post Post #9734 (isolation #773) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:47 am

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In post 9730, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9728, Nev and Max wrote:They are showing almost no knowledge of some pretty high level events in the game,
The only "event" that happened was that TLK got fruit. I'll admit to not knowing/remembering that he claimed to have sent it to PP and that I didn't remember the details of Proffi's claim. Why is it so important that I remember small details?
These aren't small details...
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Post Post #9735 (isolation #774) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:52 am

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In post 9731, profii wrote:
In post 4563, the worst wrote:
Hey Boon, I heard some rumours that those conspirators might have some kind of vigilante justice plan which could preemptively end a day phase.

After those bodies showed up, I called in that favour from your contact at the feds. He's gonna do some digging without kicking up too much fuss.

Let's not tell the rest of the contestants for now - maybe they haven't realised anything's wrong yet. I'd hate to scare them.
This happened on Day 3

I did not finish giving out my prizes until Night 3

ergo, I don't think this was to do with me.

also, this was quoted when DrewVa died, so as it appears to be some kind of day vig power that killed Drewva I draw back to : I don't think it was to do with my role PM.
I'm saying that I don't believe your claimed role as an inventor. The fact that your prizes are the exact prizes given in the boonus round is my biggest arrow towards that.

I think that you used the boonus round prizes you and the other scum members gained from your rounds to make up a role that would obfuscate what you really are.

If the vig didn't come from you then where is your extra prize? Why would you push to have that be released when there were antitown modifiers you would have to give out and there was no guarantee that town would get that extra prize?
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Post Post #9763 (isolation #775) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 9761, profii wrote:Noooo don’t lynch profii :’(
So I guess all those times you said you understood why you were being lynched and had resigned yourself to that end were only for show?

Gotcha.
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Post Post #9811 (isolation #776) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 9803, Boonskiies wrote:
Scum had access to a couple 1-shot actions passed on as a faction ability from their traitor who couldn't use their DayVig-Governor ability until they were passed on.

This was to balance this town sided setup.

This game was actually super bastard. I should have advertised as such. Oopsies.
Dick move son.
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Post Post #9812 (isolation #777) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 9807, Nero Cain wrote:like scum would waste protection on you, Elsa.

VOTE: Jingle
Why vote there when you didn't say much in the bonus room?

Why does scum put together a way for us all to win? If he is scum he is helping town more than most actual town members have all game.

I won't vote jingle.
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Post Post #9815 (isolation #778) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 9814, Jingle wrote:
In post 9812, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9807, Nero Cain wrote:like scum would waste protection on you, Elsa.

VOTE: Jingle
Why vote there when you didn't say much in the bonus room?

Why does scum put together a way for us all to win? If he is scum he is helping town more than most actual town members have all game.

I won't vote jingle.
Wait, aren't you supposed to be FF now?
I'm not sure anymore. Mala posted in our confessional so I figured I would just stay with this. I got the charge from you, well I assume it's from you since you said you'd send it.

Also. Protown fucking move there Nero. Why follow through as scum by sending the doc an extra shot.
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Post Post #9817 (isolation #779) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:12 pm

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I'm going to take a crack at some vca, see if anything becomes clearer now that we have a lot of flips.
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Post Post #9818 (isolation #780) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:13 pm

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Jingle, can we get an updated list for who's left alive as what?

And claims from the unclaimed would be nice.
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Post Post #9820 (isolation #781) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:29 pm

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Emperor flippyNips
[4]:[/b][/color] -
Alonzo
[12/26, 18:53],
DrewVa
[12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53],
Cheeky Dancer
[12/28, 17:48]

The Last Knight
[3]:
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Karmeleon
[12/19, 08:19],
Penguin
[12/24, 08:34],
Ramcius
[12/24, 11:45]

Unabombah[3]:
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Almost Chara
[12/27, 14:50], Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41],
The Last Knight
[12/28, 17:35]

Jingle [2]:
- davesaz [12/18, 08:56], Thanos [12/22, 12:53]

Xtoxm [2]:
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Mcqueen
[12/28, 16:08],
Something_Smart
[12/28, 16:09]

DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa)
[2]:
- Jingle [12/15, 22:02],
BrightEyedFish
[12/28, 00:23]

Ramcius
[2]:
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Gamma Emerald
[12/19, 12:37], Nero Cain [12/27, 14:52]

Profii
[1]:
- RCEnigma [12/20, 17:19],

BrightEyedFish
[1]:
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Nev and max
[12/16, 16:58]

RCEnigma [1]:
- Una [12/18, 07:59]

Elsa Jay [1]:
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Profii
[12/28, 17:01]

Not Voting [1]:
Emperor flippyNips
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Day 1 lynch.
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Post Post #9824 (isolation #782) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:36 pm

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Ramcius
[9]:
BrightEyedFish
[12/31, 19:35],
Mcqueen
[1/1, 07:52],
Something_Smart
[1/13, 09:50] Elsa Jay [1/13, 17:16],
DrewVa
[1/13, 22:25],
The Last Knight
[1/13, 23:02], UnaBombah [1/14, 02:22],
Nev and Max
[1/14, 12:23], Davesaz [1/14, 16:23]

Mcqueen
[4]: Xtoxm [1/1, 22:26],
PenguinPower
[1/1, 19:43],
Ramcius
[1/12, 02:59],
Profii
[1/14, 12:33]

Creature
[3]: RCEnigma [1/11, 23:44], Nero Cain [1/13, 12:15],
Gamma Emerald
[1/13, 22:39],

Nev and Max
[2]: Thanos [1/10, 09:08],
Alonzo
[1/12, 07:33],

UnaBombah [2]:
Cheeky Dancer
[1/14, 17:56],
Creature
[1/14, 17:57]

Not Voting [1]: Jingle

Day 2.

And you're welcome elsa.
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Post Post #9825 (isolation #783) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:39 pm

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The Last Knight
[8]: UnaBombah [1/18, 04:57],
Cheeky Dancer
[1/18, 18:15], Elsa Jay [1/18, 19:30], RCEnigma [1/18, 19:35],
Nev and Max
[1/19, 00:32], Xtoxm [1/21, 17:30],
BrightEyedFish
[1/22, 08:03],
Mcqueen
[1/23, 06:56]

Something_Smart
[4]:
Creature
[1/22, 05:49],
DrewVa
[1/22, 14:45], Thanos [1/23, 11:10],
Profii
[1/23, 23:16]

Elsa Jay [3]:
The Last Knight
[1/17, 17:29], Nero Cain [1/21, 18:06],
Something_Smart
[1/25, 12:05]

Nev and Max
[1]: Davesaz [1/25, 11:47]

Cheeky Dancer
[1]:
Gamma Emerald
[1/19, 09:21]

Not Voting [2]:
PenguinPower
, Jingle

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Post Post #9827 (isolation #784) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:43 pm

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Something_Smart
[12]: Thanos [1/28, 10:54], Nero Cain [1/29, 00:19], RCEnigma [1/29, 04:14], Elsa Jay [1/29, 07:55],
Profii
[1/30, 01:46], Xtoxm [1/30, 08:36], Davesaz [1/30, 08:38], Jingle [1/30, 10:24],
Cheeky Dancner
[2/1, 09:45],
DrewVa
[2/1, 17:02],
PenguinPower
[2/2, 05:47],
Creature
[2/2, 10:31]

Elsa Jay [3]:
Nev and Max
[1/28, 11:03],
BrightEyedFish
[1/29, 03:42],
Something_Smart
[1/29, 07:11]

Not Voting [2]:
Gamma Emerald
, UnaBombah

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Post Post #9828 (isolation #785) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:46 pm

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BrightEyedFish
[10]:
Profii
[2/10, 00:23],
DrewVa
[2/13, 06:38], Jingle [2/13, 17:06],
PenguinPower
[2/13, 17:08], Davesaz [2/13, 17:41], Elsa Jay [2/13, 18:59],
Nev and Max
[2/13, 19:23], RCEnigma [2/14, 02:46],
Gamma Emerald
[2/14, 15:47],
Creature
[2/14, 16:11]

Profii
[2]:
BrightEyedFish
[2/12, 22:11] Xtoxm [2/13, 12:18]

Elsa Jay [2]: Nero Cain [2/10, 03:09], UnaBombah [2/12, 02:54]

Not Voting [1]: Thanos

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Post Post #9829 (isolation #786) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:47 pm

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BrightEyedFish
[11]:
PenguinPower
[2/18, 06:53],
Gamma Emerald
[2/18, 06:59], UnaBombah [2/18, 07:47], Xtoxm [2/18, 08:26],
Nev and Max
[2/18, 10:52], Jingle [2/18, 11:44], RCEnigma [2/18, 11:55], Nero Cain [2/18, 16:32], Davesaz [2/18, 16:49], Elsa Jay [2/18, 16:54],
Profii
[2/19, 23:09]

Profii
[1]:
BrightEyedFish
[2/18, 07:34]


Not Voting [1]: Thanos

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Post Post #9830 (isolation #787) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:48 pm

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Profii
[9]: Davesaz [2/23, 14:16],
Nev and Max
[2/24, 16:43], Elsa Jay [2/25, 15:51], Thanos [2/25, 22:34] Jingle [2/26, 13:59], Nero Cain [2/26, 15:16], Xtoxm [2/28, 09:57], UnaBombah [3/2, 00:28], RCEnigma [3/3, 00:50]

Not Voting:
Gamma Emerald
,
Profii


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Post Post #9832 (isolation #788) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:50 pm

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In post 9823, Elsa Jay wrote:I also got a neighborizer.
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Post Post #9833 (isolation #789) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm

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In post 9821, davesaz wrote:I received a 1-shot neighborizer.
Dave, claim please.
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Post Post #9834 (isolation #790) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm

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In post 9822, Xtoxm wrote:i received a 1-shot neighborizer
thank you mystery gifter
(rce?)
Claim please.
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Post Post #9837 (isolation #791) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:56 pm

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In post 9835, Elsa Jay wrote:Oh, so you gave it to me, huh? That's cool...

VOTE: Nev and Max

If I didn't get put into a fucking neighborhood with Gamma last night instead of being gifted a neighborize.

Claiming Gamma's "gift"? Well now I got my scum.
I have no clue what you are saying. I gifted you a 1 shot neighborizer because that was the plan.
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Post Post #9839 (isolation #792) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:58 pm

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In post 9832, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9823, Elsa Jay wrote:I also got a neighborizer.
You said yourself that you got a neighborizer, thats what I said I sent you.

What am I missing here?
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Post Post #9841 (isolation #793) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:00 pm

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Gamma wasnt in last nights room. And how would you know i would say I sent a neighborizor before I said anything?
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Post Post #9845 (isolation #794) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:06 pm

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In post 9843, Jingle wrote:
In post 9818, Nev and Max wrote:Jingle, can we get an updated list for who's left alive as what?
Didn't I do that twice last night. :le sigh:

Thanos- Friendly Neighbor - Confirmed town if Xtox town
Jingle - Commuter - Nero thinks I'm scum because he had some really powerful drugs
EJ - Weak Miller (Gifted Weak by Una N3(?) - Two disloyal actions failed N2, Vig and unspecified action failed N3
Una - Weak Named Town (Gifted Weak by me N3(?) - Can't remember, but I think there was a town implication
Nero Cain - Vanilla Town
Xtox - Targeting role - Implied town by PP fruit result
Davesaz - Disloyal targeting role - Implied town by PP fruit result
Nev & Max - Doctor
RCE - Bunyip

I think there was a dave result I'm forgetting, but that should be all the important knowledge.
I mean, yeah, I figured it would be easiest for you to do since you had it most up to date. I didnt realize until a few minutes ago that the boonus room is still open.
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Post Post #9850 (isolation #795) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:09 pm

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In post 9844, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9812, Nev and Max wrote:Why vote there when you didn't say much in the bonus room?
this is not exactly true. I layed out my reasons but I didn't give a Mastina level wall.
In post 9815, Nev and Max wrote:Why follow through as scum by sending the doc an extra shot.
LAMIST. Like just look, you are so against Jingle being scum just b/c he gave you a shot wich is the exact reason why scum do townie things.
You went along with the plan he made without much resistance. Why follow scums plan?

I am against lynching Jingle because he has been useful so far. More useful than some of the people im starting to put into a poe situation.
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Post Post #9851 (isolation #796) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:09 pm

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In post 9846, Nero Cain wrote:Elsa, I really don't think N+M is scum, just dumb town. I won't vote them today.
Excuse the fuck out of me. What part of me is playing dumb town?
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Post Post #9857 (isolation #797) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:17 pm

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In post 9855, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9851, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9846, Nero Cain wrote:Elsa, I really don't think N+M is scum, just dumb town. I won't vote them today.
Excuse the fuck out of me. What part of me is playing dumb town?
lying about my actions in the hood to start with.
In post 9850, Nev and Max wrote:Why follow scums plan?
Honestly, its not like I could think of anything "better". Maybe I didn't understand something b/c Jingle also won with us, right? Thats really the only thing I cared about that Jingle didn't get an extra whatever he is. Or are you able to confirm that he is a commuter?
Lying is a bit of a stretch, I didnt get the feeling that jingle was your number 1 scum read with a bullet, especially not with how our round went down.

And no, how would I be able to confirm him?
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Post Post #9860 (isolation #798) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:20 pm

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Right now Im thinking that Nero and Elsa are the scum team.

Nero let elsa know about our plans last night and they cooked this up as one last hoorah to try and mislynch me.
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Post Post #9867 (isolation #799) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 9864, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 9860, Nev and Max wrote:Right now Im thinking that Nero and Elsa are the scum team.
lol

this guy is a moron
So you just going to engage in ad hom attacks on me?
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