Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!

[Chara]

also 100% disagree with every miller dying before endgame. that's a silly rule. at

least

3 of the 5 millers are town.
modify your beliefs about setups based on the setup you're actually playing.
in class so haven't read all of it.

[Chara]

this is kind of a weird list and the reads surprise me. it's not survivalistic even a bit.
UNVOTE:
until i have time later.

[Alchemist21]

I don't like the progression of having a "big scumread" on Maki then TRing her four of his posts later.

So a couple things. One, Nikk never claimed it was a big scumread on Maki, he wanted an information lynch. I’m not sure if you’re purposely shading him or misread but considering I don’t have much issue with the rest of the post then I’m guessing it’s the latter. Two, the miller claims are too numerous to lynch them all on policy.

Do you keep personal notes on games you play?

[Maki Harukawa]

I don't think I'll join the Lady wagon. I like her posts
I have more time finally

[Firebringer]

Lady forgot to give a read on me. :<

i can pretend to be lady for a minute if you would like


*does best lady impression* "Chara is town because their playstyle is town and I always read into peoples playstyles their alignments".

[Elsa Jay]

Read all the spoiler tags Lady made and... Wowo. I feel like we hit the goldmine. Bonus points for being the only one to care about Clem denying being my Mason buddy.

It also reminded me that after the events Nikk said "yeah I'm townrrading you for that" and ignored me now. That's still a weird sign in my eyes. The laziest attempt to pocket someone?

"I'm townreading you so I can ignore you now." Kinda thing.

[davesaz]

Bonus points for being the only one to care about Clem denying being my Mason buddy.

She's not the only one. The whole sequence bothers me.
I get how the two of you could be town and mutually townreading each other and therefore not concerned with the truth. But there are other viable scenarios that are dangerous.

If you're town and not masons I'm worried Clem could be scum who initially went along with you but realized (or was told) that it's a bad idea to do that.
I'm worried you could be scum and Clem is pocketed town and just going along with, and then denying because he realized it's a bad idea.
The lack of reactions from either of you toward the other makes it hard to tell. One of you should have seen the other as more suspicious even if you hard townread each other to begin with.

[Elsa Jay]

What if me and Clem are BOTH scum though, and he was going along with me until he realized we'd fuck each other over later on if one of us died?

[Nikk]

Read all the spoiler tags Lady made and... Wowo. I feel like we hit the goldmine. Bonus points for being the only one to care about Clem denying being my Mason buddy.

It also reminded me that after the events Nikk said "yeah I'm townrrading you for that" and ignored me now. That's still a weird sign in my eyes. The laziest attempt to pocket someone?

"I'm townreading you so I can ignore you now." Kinda thing.

Did I not V/LA in this game?

[Nikk]

Yeah I did. I can catch up tomorrow, but c'mon Elsa. To use my absence after stating my activity would but cut is lazy as either scum or town.

[Elsa Jay]

I didnt see a giant "V/LA" sign on your account, so I forgot you did that,

[Lady Angel]

Lady forgot to give a read on me. :<

Whoops. I'll blame that on working on that post until absurdly late in the morning.

Would you say the chance of scum claiming miller always goes up the more millers there are in the game, or would you say it peaks at a certain point?

also 100% disagree with every miller dying before endgame. that's a silly rule. at

least

3 of the 5 millers are town.
modify your beliefs about setups based on the setup you're actually playing.
in class so haven't read all of it.

Millers create a ton of potential wine in lylo/mylo situations. Wouldn't it be better to avoid that? I definitely don't think it's a good idea to lynch them all, since that's five wasted days, but I'm cautious about leading to a situation where we have three people who can't be cleared by investigation near the end of the game.

I don't like the progression of having a "big scumread" on Maki then TRing her four of his posts later.

So a couple things. One, Nikk never claimed it was a big scumread on Maki, he wanted an information lynch. I’m not sure if you’re purposely shading him or misread but considering I don’t have much issue with the rest of the post then I’m guessing it’s the latter. Two, the miller claims are too numerous to lynch them all on policy.

Do you keep personal notes on games you play?

the "big scumread" thing was a direct quote, although he did swing back around to Maki with the information lynch idea later... after he voted wisdom for voting Maki then backed off of Wisdom to vote Maki with wisdom.

I don't usually keep notes, no.

His fourth posts is likely a PR softclaim - I don't know why he'd do that early but that + a lack of overall content makes it hard for me to read him at all. Read: True Null

wow its almost like you give the same shit every game you play with people.

What makes you this upset over a null read?

[Chara]

Lady: i have no idea about that, this is the first game i've seen this many miller claims. why a question instead of a read?
i think later miller claims are more suspect but i'm not discounting any scum that might have decided to hop on earlier, so i'm trying to independently read them.

as for avoiding mylo/lylo wifom: you can't. millers are also completely clearable. you can rolecop them, for one. there's no indication of if this game has a cop or a rolecop yet. if there's a rolecop, the miller claims are easier to sort mechanically than a PR or a VT.
and the odds of getting everybody who needs it in a game without miller claims the chance to have their alignment investigated is low, anyway.

miller is also one of my favourite roles next to traitor, so i acknowledge i'm biased.

[Chara]

Lady forgot to give a read on me. :<

i can pretend to be lady for a minute if you would like


*does best lady impression* "Chara is town because their playstyle is town and I always read into peoples playstyles their alignments".

a surprisingly correct joke.

dave: going to sleep, if Maki hasn't posted game things by tomorrow i'll tell you exactly how i've been reading her.

[Alchemist21]

miller is also one of my favourite roles next to traitor, so i acknowledge i'm biased.

You have a very odd taste in roles.

[Alchemist21]

@Lady, your post’s structure seemed like it, or parts of it, had already been made and it made me wonder if you were keeping notes or if someone had provided you with the post. However, your comment about staying up so late to make it makes sense.

I was also wondering why it took a wagon on you to get these reads from you, but then again I remember being the same way when I first started. All things considered I’d say you’re Town.

Vote Kaito with me?

VOTE: Kaito

UNVOTE:

[Alchemist21]

Shit how did I fuck that up? Phone posting is a pain.

VOTE: Kaito

[Kaito Momota]

The Maki vote was pure bandwagon

How does that make me scum?

as was his next vote on Wisdom.

How does that make me scum?

Then he defends Maki from Wisdom despite having just voted her.

How does that make me scum?

and it seemed more brought on by frustration than anything.

So? What's your point?

The wisdom vote also seemed quite random at the end of the iso.

How does that make me scum?

Overall there isn't much to work with here

and what there is is pinging me enough to suspect him.

This is the same reason people were just voting you - it's not a good one, which you said in the same post

[Creature]

Is there plurality lynch?

[Creature]

If no majority exists by deadline, a no lynch occurs.

Aww fuck

[Creature]

at least 3 of the 5 millers are town.

Hey look, it's working, they think one of us must be town

[Creature]

Chara looks very generic.

Is there any reason to townread her excluding the miller claim?

[Nikk]

I didnt see a giant "V/LA" sign on your account, so I forgot you did that,

Fair, I retract what I said then.

[davesaz]

at least 3 of the 5 millers are town.

Hey look, it's working, they think one of us must be town

You think 3 or more millers are scum?

[Creature]

at least 3 of the 5 millers are town.

Hey look, it's working, they think one of us must be town

You think 3 or more millers are scum?

No, it just looks like Captain Obvious considering setup indicates likely three scum (as long Krazy isn't the mod).