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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:08 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3224, Wisdom wrote:i quite doubt that because a) Clem was unlikely to have shots left on N4 and b) Jingle thinks highly of me and would choose me over Clem
I think sheep is townier than FA. Why does scum!Jingle claim willibooster?

Think about it. If Fire is informed about Millers, then they had that info for a reason and I know I’m town miller and Nero is confirmed.

It may be just coincidence but then I don’t think this town!FA here.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:11 am
by Wisdom
Why not? There is only one boon bank role, if Jingle has it he can safely claim a boon bank role

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:12 am
by Wisdom
In post 3225, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Think about it. If Fire is informed about Millers, then they had that info for a reason and I know I’m town miller and Nero is confirmed.
As for this, we already went over it yesterday. Yes, the purpose of information is so one of them can fakeclaim a miller. That doesn't mean they actually did it. Gamma won't hold their hand and tell them "claim a miller".

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:46 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3226, Wisdom wrote:Why not? There is only one boon bank role, if Jingle has it he can safely claim a boon bank role
I want to hear Jingle’s explanation since I hard townread sheep.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:47 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3227, Wisdom wrote:
In post 3225, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Think about it. If Fire is informed about Millers, then they had that info for a reason and I know I’m town miller and Nero is confirmed.
As for this, we already went over it yesterday. Yes, the purpose of information is so one of them can fakeclaim a miller. That doesn't mean they actually did it. Gamma won't hold their hand and tell them "claim a miller".
I already told you, it’s a combination of both.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:08 am
by Jingle
Targeted Clem, reading up.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:09 am
by Wisdom
In post 3230, Jingle wrote:Targeted Clem, reading up.
Why?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:19 am
by Jingle
He claimed roleblocker, according to Nero. I assumed that either meant he was town RB and the best chance at stopping the kill or scum. If he was scum my role was useless because only one investigative after massclaim means you'd just die.

I legit didn't realize that he was probably out of shots because I've been playing marathons instead of catching up.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:21 am
by Jingle
So from what I gather Kaito was cleared by night actions. How is that?

gonna make a list of players and see what I can't piece together from what you guys have said.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:22 am
by Wisdom
kaito is confirmed vanilla by my result

he can still be goon

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:23 am
by Jingle
sheepsaysmeep- Willbooster
Nero Cain- confirmed miller (miller is only town in normal, right?)
Pink Ball- VT?
Kaito Momota- conftown VT?
Wisdom- RC
Nancy Drew 39- Miller
Creature- Backup RC
BBmolla- VT?

Is that right?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:23 am
by Jingle
Goon would be wonky here, let me look at flips.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am
by Creature
I'm not gonna consider the hypothesis Clem roleblocked Wisdom because likely he didn't.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am
by Nancy Drew 39
@Jingle, I’m trying to decide between molla and Kaito. I feel fairly confident that molla subbed into a scum!FA slot and Kaito left a fast unexplained vote on you and I think he could be scum here.

Creature is obvtown
and I’m also townreading Wisdom and PB and Nero is IC.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:24 am
by Creature
In post 3235, Jingle wrote:sheepsaysmeep- Willbooster
Nero Cain- confirmed miller (miller is only town in normal, right?)
Pink Ball- VT?
Kaito Momota- conftown VT?
Wisdom- RC
Nancy Drew 39- Miller
Creature- Backup RC
BBmolla- VT?

Is that right?
Frozen Angel/BBmolla claimed miller afair.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:26 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3235, Jingle wrote:sheepsaysmeep- Willbooster
Nero Cain- confirmed miller (miller is only town in normal, right?)
Pink Ball- VT?
Kaito Momota- conftown VT?
Wisdom- RC
Nancy Drew 39- Miller
Creature- Backup RC
BBmolla- VT?

Is that right?
No, molla/FA claimed miller. How is Kaito confitown’d anything but vanilla?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:27 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3237, Creature wrote:I'm not gonna consider the hypothesis Clem roleblocked Wisdom because likely he didn't.
Why are you so certain about that? Clem was hard scumreading Wisdom?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:28 am
by Wisdom
In post 3079, Wisdom wrote:
Alchemist21 - Miller
Chara - Miller

Nero Cain - Miller

BBmolla - Miller
Nancy Drew 39 - Miller

Nikk - VT

Pink Ball - VT
Kaito Momota - VT or Goon

Elsa Jay - Goon

Firebringer - Informed Goon


Maki Harukawa - Desperate Neighborizer

Clemency - 2shot Multitasking Doctor/Roleblocker

Jingle - Willbooster

Wisdom - Rolecop
Creature - Backup Rolecop
@jingle

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:29 am
by Creature
In post 3241, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3237, Creature wrote:I'm not gonna consider the hypothesis Clem roleblocked Wisdom because likely he didn't.
Why are you so certain about that? Clem was hard scumreading Wisdom?
Still, roleblocking the rolecop is still suboptimal specially considering you can get a clear elsewhere.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:29 am
by Jingle
Nikk - Vanilla Townie
Alchemist21 - Town Miller
Elsa Jay - Mafia Goon
Chara - Town Miller
Maki Harukawa - Town Desperate Neighborizer


So power here is

Willbooster
3?x Miller
? VT
RC
Backup RC
Roleblocker/Doc
Friendly Neighbor

IG
G
?

RC can get 4 hard innos, 1? hard guilty. Roughly the same as a tracker. Roleblocker and doc on the same person is > than each separately. Backup RC seems weird given the lack of important results from the RC. RC is probably going to target millers early so why backup?

If there's no scum rb I'm probably a negative utility town role.

Why are you guys thinking 4 scum? Town doesn't look that stacked to me.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:30 am
by Wisdom
i doubt he had remaining shots in the first place

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:31 am
by Wisdom
In post 3244, Jingle wrote:Roleblocker and doc on the same person is > than each separately.
They are separate.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:31 am
by Jingle
Wait, 5 millers? That maybe explains backup RC. That's 4-6 potentially useful results for that role. Don't see why scum would have an RC at all given like half the players are gonna claim D1.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:32 am
by Jingle
What is desperate?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:33 am
by Jingle
In post 3246, Wisdom wrote:
In post 3244, Jingle wrote:Roleblocker and doc on the same person is > than each separately.
They are separate.
No the point is that if you give the roleblocker to the doc instead of making it a different player they can't interfere with each other.