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Wtf that question wasn’t for you. Maybe you should stop signing as por flavor.In post 371, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
No, I’m not suspicious of Nico for lurking, she does that a lot as town, especially on D1. It’s what she said, that is making me suspicious. That’s why I want to get her answer to my question.In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.
That makes sense. I still think they’re very similar pushes but I see what you’re saying. You’re probably Town.In post 374, ProFlavor wrote:
Nicos 2nd post came across like “ugh fine I’ll play if I must” - like a setup for later so she can be like “I’m lurking because I told you I’m already not really engaged in this game” (it’s a weak read on one sentence tbh)In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.
U R is more like “I’m don’t see pint doing anything so I’ll just apply pressure” - I note his point that he knows Pint and wants to sort that slot - but I’m sure U r knows how to play the game in general so there are plenty of other dudes to sort - sticking on a read that basically consists of “he’s not doing anything” makes me think he wants to line up the rest of his reads to “fit in” with town - you can’t do that whilst (up to page 11 which I’ve read properly) most of the game has been about STW because you don’t know who is going to obvtown or scum it up
So I feel like U r is biding his time on an easy read- Varsoon
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Shitty reads are an inherent part of mafia. Players swapping at the table in long-form play is not a design element of the game.In post 367, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Game integrity is also compromised by shitty reads, so there’s that too,
Anyway.
I heard that the lurk-meta on Nico indicates scum there but I don't really know if that's true or not.- u r a person 2
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Feels great to be recognized
I'm just going to run through slots as long as I've got the time to do it.
Michael Scott feels pretty town. I like how he questions a a reciprocal town read on himself in 314. I like how they continued this line of questioning in 326, 337 before concluding in 346.
I like the initiative demonstrated in his meta read on varsoon, although I do think he found enough examples of venom (i know it's not venomless, but-) to diminish the read.
I don't like the two posts spent questioning proflavor about an obviously nonsense/joke scum read. @MS what's the deal w/ this?
overall town read103-11 0-2- Tibor and Lumia
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Is this just a list of the top posters in the game as all probably town?In post 372, u r a person 2 wrote:well my vote is because pintu is one of the few players here I have experience with, so I want to sort him, but I need him to play.
The "push" is a response to stw's questions which I wanted to give a full faith effort for them because they are some of the few players that have experience with me and I want to give them the best opportunity to find town!me.
my town leans right now are
STW -tone,play I think TW is trying to use his experience modding and playing with me to read me and that's why he's asking me for my thoughts about specific posts.
varsoon - sheeping taly
almost chara - town by play, thought process behind lynch pool
tibor and lumia i like the thought in gemma's play and brass i think sounds town, this is pretty light even for this list
taly - natural progression from his initial gambit to current play.
Let's take the leap of faith that these are correct. If there was scum on stw's wagon, i'd look first at pin, proflavor and alch
still like the pin vote
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I've had a hard time engaging with posts by either Ari or Nancy, so I haven't been giving that slot much thought. Realistically, this is a slot that my highest ev play is to find someone in a better position to make a meta read, and then sheep them.
But, I'll dig into them now because you asked. Gimme a hot minute103-11 0-2- Tibor and Lumia
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Can you also explain to this old man what an ev is?In post 385, u r a person 2 wrote:I've had a hard time engaging with posts by either Ari or Nancy, so I haven't been giving that slot much thought. Realistically, this is a slot that my highest ev play is to find someone in a better position to make a meta read, and then sheep them.
But, I'll dig into them now because you asked. Gimme a hot minute
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I'm caught up. Funny that I asked Shoshin the worst to sign their posts when that's what the discussion was all about.
About the discussion: I was on Varsoon's side for a while but then agreed that STW's argument is fair. If they want to play like that, well then, we'll have to take them as a new player itself. I believe them talking that before the game started... But that gives me my usual tinfoil hat: maybe the whole conversation in thread was staged too, in order to distance from their partner, Varsoon :O my face right now is my avatar.
But my boring ass brain tells me Varsoon is town and that STW hasn't done anything to be scumread. They actually did something pretty townie, but more on that later.
Now, Varsoon gets a free pass 'cause the reasoning behind his vote on STW's wagon was pretty solid, but there are other players whose justifications are lame lame lame. I'm going to focus first on URAP2, 'cause his vote was bad, BUT his unvote was worse! First off, his rvs vote became a real vote because of the signing thing, and tells Varsoon that he "doesn't know" about his word choice argument, and then says "of course you could also be right". Ironic, that's a weird word choice. Fencesitting at it's finest.
Now about the unvote: when the wagon was going full bananas, he choose to unvote and joins STW by voting Taly, again with "Varsoon could be right". This unvote was scummy as fuck y'all, it's obvious that scum felt pressure being in a full speed choo choo early wagon 'cause the wagon would get scrutinized after and hey you don't want to be part of that no matter how it ends, especially when the reasoning behind your vote is baaaad compared to the others (this goes to Alchemist too!). So in case STW is scum, URAP2's unvote means "oh shit this got way too dangerous", and if STW is town, then URAP2's unvote means "oh shit this got way too dangerous". Perfect.
After that, URAP2 goes for the poor pin, our beloved friend, who didn't have the time to play 'cause he's still getting better from surgery and forgot that he was playing mafia. Oh poor poor pin, I hope he feels better. But I digress. URAP2's move is again sketchy, 'cause I assume his vote was not because he's scumreading me, but for pressure so I get here and post. Basically, fencesitting once again: "I'm going to focus on the player who's not playing instead of playing with the rest".
And now as promised, the townie thing that STW did, which I assume it was the worst: first off, voted URAP2, so I think they realized the same that I did. Secondly, this quote: "What do you think of pintu's post so far? I'd be interested to hear. I had a conversation with the voice in my head about it earlier.", coming from the worst, directed to URAP2. My guess is that the duck was not trying to sort me, but sort URAP2 instead, making URAP2 believe he was trying to sort me. That came pretty good if I may say, since URAP2's reply was, once again, sketchy, with the LAMIST argument that seems to be fabricated; I saw STW at L-2 and my vote was an rvs vote, so I unvoted. Saying "I'm willing to believe he's disengaged, although his rvs post did seem excited to play" is, then again, fabricating some kind of stance to make his vote on me valid, instead of just saying "nah dawg I got nothing on him I just want to put some pressure on the slot", which would be at least understandable.
So I got Varsoon and STW as town, URAP2 as scum, I'm liking Tibor and Lumia's post so far, Nancy is being different than the last game I played with her but Ari is being townie, I like the way Taly posts, aaaand I think that's it. Oh and Alchemist's vote on STW was bad too.
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Parsing your spoilered post then discussing then getting back to you is going to take time taly. Just keep doing what you're doing and we will get back to you.In post 281, Taly wrote:Spoiler: Replying to the presumably Nancy head
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Spoiler: Replying to the presumably Ari head
...I really wantSTWto jump into the thread and explain their read on me AND reply to my spoiler to them, because at the moment, I can't find a town-motivated reason for anyone else to push a scumread on me UNLESS they actually give THEIR OWN opinion.- Shoshin the worst
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Lol...In post 287, Taly wrote:
VOTE: Kokichi OmaIn post 241, Kokichi Oma wrote:Prodge
Would this help you contribute?- Shoshin the worst
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Could you throw me a couple of things which you think are unlikely to come from scum!you this game so we can tighten up our read?In post 296, Alchemist21 wrote:
Town.In post 245, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Alchemist, as someone who has no experience whatsoever in playing with you: how would you be reading yourself, if you were another slot in this game? (Sorry for the annoying question. I'm going somewhere with this I promise.)In post 238, Alchemist21 wrote:
I was wondering why you hadn’t mentioned me yet. It was getting weird.In post 234, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Since this never got a good point to be brought up, I am townreading Alchemist rn. His solving looks genuine and he’s quite present. Matches my concept of town!Alchemist over scum!Alchemist.
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PEdit: I’m assuming that’s Shoshin asking me that since I’ve played with tw a lot recently. Idk about U2, I’ll figure it out and post it in a full readlist later most likely.
Also, if tw and U2 form a hydra it should be called Detroit Become Human.- Alchemist21
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Scum me these days gets nervous and avoids posting, especially if someone like Gamma or RC who I know can read me well is present. As it’s been said to me before there’s a certain thoughtfulness in my Town posting that my scumgame lacks. My Townread on Ari is a good example of that.In post 398, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Could you throw me a couple of things which you think are unlikely to come from scum!you this game so we can tighten up our read?In post 296, Alchemist21 wrote:
Town.In post 245, Shoshin the worst wrote:
Alchemist, as someone who has no experience whatsoever in playing with you: how would you be reading yourself, if you were another slot in this game? (Sorry for the annoying question. I'm going somewhere with this I promise.)In post 238, Alchemist21 wrote:
I was wondering why you hadn’t mentioned me yet. It was getting weird.In post 234, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Since this never got a good point to be brought up, I am townreading Alchemist rn. His solving looks genuine and he’s quite present. Matches my concept of town!Alchemist over scum!Alchemist.
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PEdit: I’m assuming that’s Shoshin asking me that since I’ve played with tw a lot recently. Idk about U2, I’ll figure it out and post it in a full readlist later most likely.
Also, if tw and U2 form a hydra it should be called Detroit Become Human. - Alchemist21
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