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Post Post #1025  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:17 pm

UNVOTE:

A bit more confident in Alchemist-town, not lynching this.

I'd like Mew to do something about their "one vote/scumread+no push in the game at all" thing they have going for their all-of-5-posts.

VOTE: pinturicchio

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Post Post #1026  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:18 pm

also STW try to avoid confbias with me. -_-*...

and if I keep hearing "taly's read reversal is scum-indicative of him omg", you're not going to get a rational response.
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Post Post #1027  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:20 pm

I mean rational, as in calm, where I don't get pissed off by the misrep you've painted me with in your recent posts. :mad:
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Post Post #1028  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:22 pm

i would post GIFs this game indefinitely... but spoiling most of them kind of defeats the spontaneity
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Post Post #1029  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:57 pm

In post 1018, Taly wrote:I want to make sure they actually read it.

Don't play shit like this. That's intolerant and intolerable.
We read all of your posts. We talk about them before replying (and need to be in front of a PC generally for formatting reasons).

I'm going to go and read the rest of your post now but shit like this is not on.
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Post Post #1030  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:07 pm

In post 1018, Taly wrote:You only voice a thought towards me if it's 100% meta-based on something I've done before. You're not removing my play here from anything else, and you're not doing this with anyone else to my understanding.

I'm curious to know, on if you're trying to solve me genuinely, or if you're just withholding your responses about me for when you CAN actively case a lynch against me if I survive later in the game.

You've told me to "play the game" and "wait for your response" and yet you're just now acknowledging posts I've made where I haven't mentioned you.

I have absolutely no idea where you're going with this except I get the feeling you aren't enjoying our playstyle? It kinda feels like a beginning and a middle with no end. What do you actually make of all this?

You don't need to be positioned as a lategame lynch and doing that by gently poking you day one would be ridiculous. If we were scum actually gunning for your mislynch why would we alert you to it and force you to produce more alignment indicative content day one? This isn't the conclusion I don't think so talk to me more here.


In post 1018, Taly wrote:Yes, you're misled. If you actually read me post in 193, you'd have known that ANY post I made in the game before 132 were reaction tests.

And yeah, I'm playing OVERTLY "scummy" right now. (Ugh, that word sucks so much.)

If "playing how I am as scum" gets people to have reads OTHER than town/null and AVOIDS a potential lurker mislynch on D1, then fuck... Mission accomplished.

Apathy defeated. (Or at least mine is.) 1v1s don't go for +10 pages. Weakens a scum-productive narrative.


If you're playing overly scummy what's your angle? Where were you going with the reaction tests & what did you glean? This is the kind of reasoning wolves use when they have a rocky start to day one so I can't afford to take that at face value. Let's go 3 levels deeper in this conversation.

The last two paragraphs don't make sense to me and I don't ?think? they're alignment indicative to I'm gonna focus on the more interesting parts of this...


In post 1018, Taly wrote:Let's talk about "posturing/positioning" for a second.

How about the next time you quote me, you DIRECTLY respond to me? OK?


Lol.
This is the towniest thing in your post but I'm still not convinced it comes exclusively from town!you. Your emotional range is a lot broader as town. Your semantic/nitpicking as either alignment is strong. I'm struggling to see a lot here past semantics.

Given TW head has seen you as both powertown, powerwolf, and pocketed you as a scum - what makes you think you're entitled to a townread from us? Help us see it?
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Post Post #1031  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:10 pm

In post 1022, Taly wrote:
In post 1003, Krazy wrote:NicoRobin(3) ~ (57), (153), (81)
u r a person 2(2) ~ (43), (42)
Shoshin the worst(2) ~ (6), (143)
Alchemist21(2) ~ (5), (61)
pinturicchio(1) ~ (75)
Mewtaph(1) ~ (52)
Kokichi Oma(1) ~ (70)


This is an incredibly bad VC for town.

Michael/STW/UP2, tell me why Nico's a good lynch today.

URAP2 - Already prompted Pint/ProFlavor to talk about their vote here.

STW - vars, make town cohesive <3

Alchemist21 - Actually want Mew to explain his scumread on Alchemist, it's the only one they've had it seems? In like... 1000 posts?

Pint - A reason to townread T&L as I'm feeling less impressed each time I read Pint's ISO or latest posts.

Kokichi - AC, is this really a worthy lynch? Any active posters you don't townread?


This is valid tbh
I'll be interested to revisit this vca

we still have like half a week so I'm OK pressuring where I am. Still want to hear about scum!Alchemist because neither of us are seeing it.

Kokichi is likely the most valid lurker lynch because he's blatantly playing in bad faith. But I'm fine pressuring where we are and if NR eats the lynch I don't think I'll be sad.
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Post Post #1032  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:10 pm

In post 1023, Taly wrote:anyone have meta on Mew?

like reliable ones? not a 1 game half-assed "this is how someone is as that alignment"?

All I can contribute is that he's a pretty sharp, analytical player. Don't have reliable alignment tells on him.
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Post Post #1033  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:12 pm

In post 1026, Taly wrote:also STW try to avoid confbias with me. -_-*...

and if I keep hearing "taly's read reversal is scum-indicative of him omg", you're not going to get a rational response.

What do you think we're doing...? :lol:
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Post Post #1034  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:14 pm

In post 1027, Taly wrote:I mean rational, as in calm, where I don't get pissed off by the misrep you've painted me with in your recent posts. :mad:

Why don't you feel the need to empathise with us?
Why are you ridiculing our push on you? If your only answer is "bEcAuSe YoU'rE wRoNg!!!!" please try to meet us at a deeper level. Because we aren't half-assing this read...
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Post Post #1035  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:15 pm

Acrually you haven't used the cat GIF towntell..... Guess you're probably scum.
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Post Post #1036  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:55 pm

In post 1032, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1023, Taly wrote:anyone have meta on Mew?

like reliable ones? not a 1 game half-assed "this is how someone is as that alignment"?

All I can contribute is that he's a pretty sharp, analytical player. Don't have reliable alignment tells on him.


OK.

In post 1033, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1026, Taly wrote:also STW try to avoid confbias with me. -_-*...

and if I keep hearing "taly's read reversal is scum-indicative of him omg", you're not going to get a rational response.

What do you think we're doing...? :lol:


Calling you out on misrepping me. I'm not "reversing" my read on you, I'm questioning it because you're not actually evaluating any points or concerns I have on my read on you.

Plus, I'm much more likely to read-reverse as town, especially as the game goes on. :roll: Since you're so focused on meta-ing me.

In post 1034, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1027, Taly wrote:I mean rational, as in calm, where I don't get pissed off by the misrep you've painted me with in your recent posts. :mad:

Why don't you feel the need to empathise with us?


Because I genuinely am trying to figure out if your lack of explanation, replies to only SPECIFIC posts I make about you, and extremely-cautious attitude on making a stance about me is town-motivated or scum-motivated.

:igmeou: If it's such a bitch to read me, then do something about it. Otherwise, your play is very effective for scum to manipulate our interactions regardless of my alignment.

You've also only talked meta when it related to my SCUM-game, NOT my TOWN-game.

You're not being honest or fair. :( :mad:

Just think for the slightest fucking second, if I'm town, what are you accomplishing here?
If you genuinely believe I'm scum, why aren't you doing something about it?
If you really don't think you'll have a strong read, at least D1? Then assess me objectively and directly, and don't step around my larger posts to you when I'm actually conveying my thought process.

In post 1034, Shoshin the worst wrote:Why are you ridiculing our push on you? If your only answer is "bEcAuSe YoU'rE wRoNg!!!!" please try to meet us at a deeper level. Because we aren't half-assing this read...


Seriously... Why are you constructing my posts as unserious and thoughtless?

And WHAT push have you done to me? I'm still waiting for this, and THAT'S the problem.

I'm not replying to your posts until you read my spoiler wall that was 800 posts ago, AND the recent wall I DIDN'T spoil.

You know, the one you completely disregarded to reply to just now?

In post 1035, Shoshin the worst wrote:Acrually you haven't used the cat GIF towntell..... Guess you're probably scum.


:igmeou: I post GIFs NAI.

Don't mock me.
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Post Post #1037  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:58 pm

In post 1022, Taly wrote:Michael/STW/UP2, tell me why Nico's a good lynch today.


Also, I'm still waiting for an answer on this. -_-*
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Post Post #1038  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:01 pm

Unless you actually answer my question posed in , STW

...Or FINALLY have a discussion with BOTH heads on your thoughts toward me AND my posts in /

I'm not getting into a pointless 1v1 that clogs up the thread.
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Post Post #1039  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:02 pm

I'll reply when you want to work with me.
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Post Post #1040  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:03 pm

:facepalm:

...And I skipped over these two posts. Ugh.

I'm tired.
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Post Post #1041  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:05 pm

In post 1030, Shoshin the worst wrote:Given TW head has seen you as both powertown, powerwolf, and pocketed you as a scum - what makes you think you're entitled to a townread from us? Help us see it?


Given TW head HAS seen me in these positions, makes me REALLY wonder why you're posting before talking to him.
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Post Post #1042  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:07 pm

In post 1030, Shoshin the worst wrote:If you're playing overly scummy what's your angle? Where were you going with the reaction tests & what did you glean? This is the kind of reasoning wolves use when they have a rocky start to day one so I can't afford to take that at face value. Let's go 3 levels deeper in this conversation.


I also stated I've been feeling apathy after the page-explosion this past week, namely the back-and-forths.

So I'm also "getting attention" so I can communicate more effectively to the playerlist and redefine my reads with transparency.
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Post Post #1043  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:11 pm

In post 1030, Shoshin the worst wrote:You don't need to be positioned as a lategame lynch and doing that by gently poking you day one would be ridiculous. If we were scum actually gunning for your mislynch why would we alert you to it and force you to produce more alignment indicative content day one? This isn't the conclusion I don't think so talk to me more here.


Well, you HAVE brushed off some points I've made on you, and you're looking very critically into every post I make with the WIFOM of "this could be Taly as ANY alignment!!!!"

If you wanted me to get frustrated, for us to 1v1, and for you to get material to ACTUALLY lynch me later then here you have it.

I don't know what you're achieving here as town, either, that's why my read has partially faded.
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Post Post #1044  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:13 pm

In post 1037, Taly wrote:
In post 1022, Taly wrote:Michael/STW/UP2, tell me why Nico's a good lynch today.


Also, I'm still waiting for an answer on this. -_-*

I answered that. It's not a fair question. We're pressuring her because there are still several days on the clock.

If you want me to reply to things, quote them. I don't have the time or inclination to respond to everything in your ISO and I'm not going to engage with your massive walls of fluff.

You're not talking to me about the things I asked you to talk about. I'm having a hard time reading you but trending scum which is why I'm engaging with you here. I thought that was incredibly obvious and don't appreciate the way you're trying to misrepresent my motive.
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Post Post #1045  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:14 pm

STW, I just said I forgot you made 2 posts.

This is why I don't want a back-and-forth, there's so much content to filter in a large and this isn't helping anything.
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Post Post #1046  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:15 pm

In post 1036, Taly wrote:I'm not replying to your posts until you read my spoiler wall that was 800 posts ago, AND the recent wall I DIDN'T spoil.

You know, the one you completely disregarded to reply to just now?

Again, read every single word of these posts.
You're once again just ridiculing our push on you by saying...we haven't read enough of your content to have a read on you? Dude we've read every single character. Stop having a tantrum and show us why we should be townreading you or let's make some decent content.

pedit: I'll go read everything. one moment.
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Post Post #1047  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:16 pm

In post 1041, Taly wrote:
In post 1030, Shoshin the worst wrote:Given TW head has seen you as both powertown, powerwolf, and pocketed you as a scum - what makes you think you're entitled to a townread from us? Help us see it?


Given TW head HAS seen me in these positions, makes me REALLY wonder why you're posting before talking to him.

This is candidly completely wrong. :lol:
Don't pivot this question man, engage with us.
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Post Post #1048  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:17 pm

In post 1043, Taly wrote:
In post 1030, Shoshin the worst wrote:You don't need to be positioned as a lategame lynch and doing that by gently poking you day one would be ridiculous. If we were scum actually gunning for your mislynch why would we alert you to it and force you to produce more alignment indicative content day one? This isn't the conclusion I don't think so talk to me more here.


Well, you HAVE brushed off some points I've made on you, and you're looking very critically into every post I make with the WIFOM of "this could be Taly as ANY alignment!!!!"

If you wanted me to get frustrated, for us to 1v1, and for you to get material to ACTUALLY lynch me later then here you have it.

I don't know what you're achieving here as town, either, that's why my read has partially faded.

Yes ok that's fine..... but why should we be townreading you? I asked that question for a reason....
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Post Post #1049  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:18 pm

Taly why do you take exception with a Nico lynch?
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