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In post 1097, Taly wrote:I can't tell if the constant miscommunication on my posts is because I just suck at clarifying things for people, or people are actively not trying to understand my POV.

this is probably the biggest reason why ive had issue sorting and for different reasons

apologize for my constant posting the past 3 pages.

i really dont want to go back to the meta of got me nowhere

In post 1098, Taly wrote:

In post 1072, u r a person 2 wrote:@taly
a bunch of people were voting nico and I figured maybe it could lead to a sort. It was not a productive use of time

miserably sick this past day. hoping it will get better from here. will play tomorrow

thoughts on

Pint

and primarily their wagon/vote on you?

i want the discussion to STAY ON TOPIC



If you see a , I want that answered, ty.

In post 1087, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Why? And Bono and Alchemist are really bad wagons.

who is

fml bold tag fail

In post 1095, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm sorry all I just havent been the mafia mood lately. I hope that changes tonight. I'll look into what I missed. Anything anyone wants me to look into?

Help us find teh scums.

In post 1100, Taly wrote:

In post 1097, Taly wrote:I can't tell if the constant miscommunication on my posts is because I just suck at clarifying things for people, or people are actively not trying to understand my POV.

this is probably the biggest reason why ive had issue sorting

mephisto

and

stw

for different reasons

I can obviously only speak for myself but yeah, I honestly do find some of your posts, really confusing.

In post 1102, Taly wrote:

*aggressively throws feathers at

Ari, Nancy, TW, and Sho

*

ask questions please and ill answer as concisely as possible.

also relevant questions that arent about things that are 500+ posts old, preferably, ty.

<3

In post 1104, Taly wrote:

In post 1087, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Why? And Bono and Alchemist are really bad wagons.

who is

Bono[/n]?

i want

mew

to reply to

alchemist

before i make a further assessment there

U2 and rotisserie slap chop is ProFlavor.

yeah not impressed with each vote on when looking at it individually, but i do think town is there.

In post 965, Mewtaph wrote:

In post 936, Taly wrote:

In post 63, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21

Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

In post 936, Taly wrote:

In post 765, Mewtaph wrote:Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?

What answer were you expecting here?

It was an open ended question, so I wasn't expecting any answer in particular.

In post 936, Taly wrote:

In post 772, Mewtaph wrote:I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.

I didn't like the initial voting on

UP2

when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting

Michael Scott

to explain why he thought

UP2's

posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on

Nico

. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like

"where's the scum at"

?

:/ I get my vote on

Kokichi

contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint

pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?

I thought ignoring

u r a person 2's

self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

Mmm, yes. This is how I feel too.

I'm not taking

Pint

having to push his content back as scum indicative but I'm saying it would've been bad if posts along those lines continued, which I guess is pointless now.

Hmmmm . . . never left moves his vote off of Alchemist who reads pretty damned townie to me but shades Pint. If Pint ever flips red here, this could be possible distancing.

In post 1003, Krazy wrote:

Votecount 1.10

NicoRobin(3)

~ Michael Scott(57), Shoshin the worst(153), u r a person 2(81)

u r a person 2(2)

~ ProFlavor(43), pinturicchio(42)

Shoshin the worst(2)

~ NicoRobin(6), Varsoon(143)

Alchemist21(2)

~ Mewtaph(5), Taly(61)

pinturicchio(1)

~ Tibor and Lumia(75)

Mewtaph(1)

~ Alchemist21(52)

Kokichi Oma(1)

~ Almost Chara(70)


Not Voting (2): Mephistophanes 39(184), Kokichi Oma(8)

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-16 22:05:31)

MOD REMINDERS

Kokichi Oma needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/9/2019 10:23:00 AM which was 2 days 4 hours 16 minutes 51 seconds ago.

NicoRobin is no longer being replaced.

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

VOTE: Mewtaph

In post 889, pinturicchio wrote:URAP2 has townied it up a lot since my first pushing attempt, and I'm not as convinced as I was before; however, I still see some inconsistencies and I can't let go the things I pointed out before about him.

@taly i thought pintu had unvoted me, but i guess not.

remembering that what he pointed out was that i jumped off an early wagon on a town read of his, and noting the "has townied it up a lot" word choice, it's odd

it could be pintu scum, but scum!pintu seemed more in tune with the player base last game i played. i dont understand the strat he has here, and i think scum!pintu has a plan

Also, didn’t care for the weird Gamma question and justification for it. Pint could also be scum but eh.

So, rn, those two read the least towniest. Thinking Stw is wrong about Taly and RSC (PF), so maybe one of the lurkers but lurking is more town indicative for Kokichi than Nico but currently null on both and I agree with Taly about either being low info flips.

In post 1113, u r a person 2 wrote:

In post 889, pinturicchio wrote:URAP2 has townied it up a lot since my first pushing attempt, and I'm not as convinced as I was before; however, I still see some inconsistencies and I can't let go the things I pointed out before about him.

@taly i thought pintu had unvoted me, but i guess not.

remembering that what he pointed out was that i jumped off an early wagon on a town read of his, and noting the "has townied it up a lot" word choice, it's odd

it could be pintu scum, but scum!pintu seemed more in tune with the player base last game i played. i dont understand the strat he has here, and i think scum!pintu has a plan

All votes on you are bad, you seem really genuine. Could be?

@Eraserhead, go find a better wagon.

Almost Chara
Mephisto
STW
Varsoon
T&L
URAP2
Alchemist


Mew
Pint
Proflavor
Michael Scott


Not behind a lynch unless there's either a better meta argument, or until they post more so I can evaluate them enough to have a lynch decision on.

1111 and 1113 are noteworthy posts about

In post 1116, Taly wrote:

Town, not listing the order of strength OR confidence here

Almost Chara
Mephisto
STW
Varsoon
T&L
URAP2
Alchemist

Sorting

Mew
Pint
Proflavor
Michael Scott

Nicorobin
Kokichi

Not behind a

Nico/Koki

lynch unless there's either a better meta argument, or until they post more so I can evaluate them enough to have a lynch decision on.

+1

Totally mindmelding with your town list. I think scum is most likely in Mew/Pint/Nico/Kokichi - in that order. Eraserhead and Auroapocalypse are currently townleans but I suppose it’s possible Auro is pocketing me but unlikely. Unless one or more of my reads is wrong but based on associatives and bad votes, probably not. If Eraserhead doesn’t move their bad Bono vote, I’ll have to revisit that slot.

Anyway, Kokichi can be resolved tomorrow due to IC claim, plus lurking is more town indicative for him. If both lurkers are town, then I obviously need to reacess my reads.

Nico could really be upset about replace in being ignored or it could be more than that. I seriously question that Krazy would make that kind of mistake though but I suppose it’s possible.

i can get behind mew

VOTE: mewtaph

Join the hivemind, folks.

Okay, so here's an expansion of the thought I briefed at the beginning of my 965 - Alchemist has shown themselves to be a competent player in that he appeared active during and after RVS and easily adjusted into a neutral mediator role between Shoshin the worst and Varsoon. He takes multiple opportunities early on to appear present in the thread that seems crafted to achieve nothing but a sense of activity and general noise, but unlike other offenders of this act, shows that they have no particular interest in trying to wrangle active thread control, staying separated from those willing to fight each other over it. Town has no reason to engage with this type of engagement which allows presence but allows for separation from the events taking place for 20 posts, especially when they decide to make 204, which is a fairly analytical post to sort somebody as town using logic, right?

Except after Alchemist's ISO #0 to #20, he starts to move away from the early dispute and the problem is that his first post (204) in doing so feels artificial because when directly questioned, he points to the post as a reason to follow him as being town. 297 was disconnected from his original line of thought in 204 that I question if he actually thought of it in the first place. In sum, they've taken multiple stances but have retracted those stances to the point where he's been able to keep his options wide open outside of Varsoon/STW/Mephisto which are easy lynches to strike out as scum, while offering the overall illusion of coinciding ideas of being engaged and sorting the game state out, while failing to achieve either in any way that I believe in.

I could be wrong, but I'm comfortable with the rationale for my vote.

Lmao. So you’re trying to say I’m competent enough to engage the thread and have everyone thinking I’m Town without taking over the thread, but you think I can’t even come up with my own thoughts? My 297 is in no way disconnected from what I said about Mephistophanes so that’s just straight bullshit. And then I must be scum because my reads changed? Because I didn’t double down on shit when it became clear I was wrong?

Yeah, no. You’re tripping over yourself to try and justify your terrible posts. You can eat rope today.

Mewtaph what about that makes you think Alchemist is aligned with the mafia?
1121 is incredibly unfocused

do u have any reads aside from and thoughts on the current wagons aside from your sole vote? want to know ty