Oh sorry, not universally. Guess I forgot a few slots (two of whom were lynched). semantics bro
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:26 am
by Shoshin the worst
if you could give taly a quick ISO then ctrl+f "taly" in our iso I think you'll get the gist of it. I'm not fully ready to reveal what we've picked up on QUITE yet.
He said "woof"! That's definitely profii (the guy sitting behind his dog in his personal avatar).
I am still catching up, but Nancy's already confusing me. Her posts are definitely towny in tone, but -up to post 87- I didn't see her signature crumb. Like..
Mephistopheles is not your name
I know what you're up to just the same
I will listen hard to your tuition
You will see it come to its fruition
I'll be wrapped around your finger
I'll be wrapped around your finger
P.S. So as not to confuse anyone, this is
not a crumb of our role
in any way, shape or form. It's a mix or referencing how Nancy usually crumbs with videos + a joke about the hydra name
~The half-a-century old head
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:29 am
by Shoshin the worst
Synchronicity Side Bs! A50 you still just get me.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:29 am
by Varsoon
Fully reveal it now.
I'm not going to let you beat around the bush.
Your answer in 177 says to me "I do not actually have a good reason and I am fabricating one; in the meantime, please come up with something on your own to justify my play and maybe come to a scumread conclusion there yourself."
So, no.
I won't just 'look at some ISO's and 'get the gist of it'.
You'll explain it in full detail and won't 'hide' anything that you don't want to reveal 'quite yet', because that's bullshit.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:35 am
by Shoshin the worst
Varsoon we've been sorting and moving the game more than you. When people stop hyperventilating about out hydra decision, we will look townier than you. We don't need the towncred of explaining our Taly read preemptively. taly is the kind of player capable of writing in a narrative driven fashion which means if we alert him to what were looking at/for too early, we'll lose what momentum we do have.
So, no. I am not going to bow down to your browbeating overbearing tactics. Disagreeing with us here is only beneficial for Taly, in that he'll be harder to catch if he is indeed scum. If you heavily disagree, explain why he's town. You are going to need the towncred more than us.
~ the worst & Shoshin
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:39 am
by Varsoon
You talking about how you look in relation to me is scum posturing and attempts to make me change my position solely for towncred from you, which is something I could care less about.
I want your Taly read explained so that I can further understand the game at hand; not because it'll buy you any towncred.
The burden on me is not to explain why Taly is town; stop trying to walk back your read or force me to do something inorganic like explain a read I don't have and just explain your own damn read that you've already claimed.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:40 am
by Varsoon
Literally the fact you didn't explain it and instead made that gross posture post indicates to me that there's no depth to your read and you're just talking out of your ass.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:44 am
by Shoshin the worst
No like literally we have a read and we're going to see how well the trajectory of Taly's iso backs up or conflicts with our position. you just admitted you're being intentionally close minded about reading our slot and reconsidering your read on our scumread in 180 so I'm not sure why I would bother casing him out for you while you're raging anyway?
want to talk about any other slots? or
pedit: absolutely not correct. what posturing do you think was scum indicative?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:45 am
by u r a person 2
i read over the isos
varsoon could be right
but i don't want this lynch anymore right now
I think I'll join you on Taly.
VOTE: Taly
Hi Taly,
Would you kindly talk to me about your varsoon read (or any read you have other than Shoshin the worst)
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:46 am
by Varsoon
I'm not raging, Shoshin--I'm applying pressure to your slot and I don't appreciate your multiple attempts to rewrite my push on you as anything but.
I'd love to talk about Taly, but you've decided to dodge that subject entirely.
So, nah, I don't wanna talk about anyone else.
I want you lynched.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:54 am
by Shoshin the worst
Okay you're not pressuring out slot. You're pushing it for a lynch. Saying we're scum for a progressive hydra dynamic is scum motivated at worst & close-mindedness at best. so we're not really able to react to that pressure any way regardless of alignment I don't think.
Engaging with us on slots is a much better idea. I did just explain why talking about Taly is a bad idea if he IS scum so I'm not sure where to go next. I guess we can leave each other's personal space for 24 hours or something?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:59 am
by Varsoon
You keep coming back to the 'progressive hydra dynamic' thing despite that being the smallest part of why I continue to push you.
You're literally pleading for me to drop off of you for 24 hours hoping the pressure will die down?
Seriously?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:00 am
by Shoshin the worst
In that case, I don't understand why you're pushing us entirely. Sorry.
I need to take a break from the thread (running late for work) -- I'll catch you later?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:25 am
by Taly
ugh one at a time please
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:25 am
by Almost Chara
All caught up. Time to get us shot tonight.
Preliminary lynch pool (in no particular order): Shoshin the worst, Mewtaph, u r a person 2, pinturucchio, nicorobin, Kokichi Oma
Everyone else is on the positive side of null to some degree.
Disclaimer: I have not discussed any reads/reasoning with Chara yet. Thi8s preliminary list is subject to change when we do get to discuss stuff in the PT. After all, it's D1 and Chara is the one with the gift of tone reading alignments.
~The guy watching TV, playing Mafia, following a soccer game and eating all at the same time.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:26 pm
by pinturicchio
Hey, I forgot this existed. I'm going to catch up now. Just skimmed this page and saw the votecount: UNVOTE: shoshin the worst , let's see what happened there.
By the way Shoshin and duck, could you sign your posts please? I don't know Shoshin and I think I can somewhat read the aussie
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:48 pm
by Taly
@STW
Spoiler: WARNING: huge textwall shit, its not too long, everyone should read it especially STW
Part of my motivation was to actually understand why you thought the
Kokichi
townvibe I gave was awkward; I've never had much gameplay with
Kokichi
so I took his posts by the fact that I believed he wanted people to discuss his claim and never followed it up with serious remarks. The other part was because I wanted to read both of you without the wagon influencing me,
STW
. Other than
Almost50
, and
Nancy
, you two are the only people who have seen me as BOTH alignments.
I wanted to see what conclusions you'd draw about me based off my posting, so I can see how genuine and constructed your read on me was.
I also wanted you to actually engage with the wagon on you, without being distracted by myself. Thus the prompts to your wagon.
I townread your guys' slot, and now I feel a bit more confident saying this as I've seen the thread unravel.
In post 163, Shoshin the worst wrote:ewe're 7 pages in and the only person not circularly shitposting about misunderstanding out hydra dynamic seems to be Taly
The rest of this post is genuine frustration with the playerlist, which I like.
I also understand why you scumread me here, because BOTH of you have seen me get far and WIN my scum-games through deepwolfing, and defending town mislynches for towncred.
But this is misguided. Quickwagons are really stupid and whether someone signs as a hydra are not is NAI most of the time, tbh. My townlean on you guys was the real reason why I voiced against the wagon.
(Also because I disliked some reasoning around some people's votes there, ones that were serious including ProFlavor's and I need to reread Alchemists')
In post 181, Shoshin the worst wrote:taly is the kind of player capable of writing in a narrative driven fashion which means if we alert him to what were looking at/for too early, we'll lose what momentum we do have.
~ the worst & Shoshin
I'm flattered you guys think I'm this good as scum... but I think you guys underestimate my perceptiveness as town.
But this reinforces my point above. You both are using meta-logic to explain an early read on me, on how I make consistent narratives as scum.
Yet the only focal point I've made are two stances that I gathered through a 1v1 between you and
Varsoon
, which I townread both of you on. There's no motivation or means I could get towncred by posturing myself around your potential lynch if nobody is even entertaining my train of thought.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:49 pm
by Taly
k
short synopsis of the above:
- I've been gauging for reactions over my posts.
- More reasoned and genuine thought behind
Like I can't see how scum would group such a specific area of people in a lynch pool, and proceed to give an honest positive read to the rest of the playerlist with the amount of chaos and town communication barriers present in the game thus far.
(A 1v1, an L-1'd wagon that spawned from RVS initially, etc.)
By the way, can you explain your lynch pool
Almost?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:04 pm
by Taly
like if the past 8 pages is an example of town's height in scumhunting this game then im very worried
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:10 pm
by Taly
also for everyone who disagrees with me on
STW
, give me a SIMPLE bullet-pointed list on the reasons their posting is scum-motivated