Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!

[Mephistophanes 39]

I clearly said '/in to replace' in the sign-up thread.......

/in to replace

UNVOTE:

[Varsoon]

VOTE: STW

Nico, I understand you wanted to replace in, but now you're in the game--you wanted to play in it anyway, right?
No one's forcing you to play here--replace out if you don't want to play.
Just don't play the victim card is all.

-V

[Taly]

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

Good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Are there any posts you want to have addressed in particular?

VOTE: Alchemist21

I want Alchemist to reply to 952

I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.

I didn't like the initial voting on UP2 when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting Michael Scott to explain why he thought UP2's posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on Nico. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like "where's the scum at"?

:/ I get my vote on Kokichi contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?

I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

I think scum was on STW's wagon regardless of STW's alignment. He was L-1'd, and this is a large. Granted, I do have a townread on STW, but it's faded the past few pages, I still stick to them-town.

I also feel like scum would've hopped on UP2 too when STW's wagon began to crumble. STW felt like the only person pushing UP2 through getting his reads (ISO STW, there are a lot of direct interactions between in their posts 400-600), and while Pint made a few points on UP2, I don't feel his read is strong based off the reasoning in 338

This "we're lynching Nico/Koki/lurker" is about the worst lynch decision possible for the gamestate, and on D1 in general tbh.

[Taly]

VOTE: STW

Please make a case, involving post links.

I can't bring myself to read all the pages in this thread because of the back-and-forths and filtering out a mountain of words for a few content-advancing statements hasn't done me well for comprehension.

[Taly]

I clearly said '/in to replace' in the sign-up thread.......

Tough world.

Is your STW-scumread confident? Any other thoughts on the game?

[Tibor and Lumia]

Since Gamma didn't do this.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Pintu

I don't remember this many fluff posts coming from him before.

-A Brass Out of Hell (If someone can explain to me why Meatloaf is stuck in my head, I'd appreciate it)

[Taly]

actually noted

388 this is Pint's major dump on the thread, but in his ISO he only engages with URAP2 in two other posts, with several talking about him which doesn't really expand on an evolving read around him.

I want Pint to talk about his other reads, too.

((also, wrong post link in my 977, was meant to link 388 and not 338))

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist is someone I want to sort more.

I can see scum take the positions he's had (namely the vote/rationality on STW 128 133, 153 and the vote/unvote onto UP2 734 and 736), but, alongside my other iffy/scumlean reads, a lot of people don't agree.

ProFlavor, Michael Scott, and Pint need an individual ISO for me to get thoughts rolling on them.

Mephisto reread / UP2 Wagon Evaluation / ProFlavor/Michael Scott/Pint are the areas of sorting I'm looking to absolve in the next 2 days.

I don’t know what you expect me to respond to here. I’ve made myself pretty clear so if you’re still insure about something you’ll need to ask specific questions instead of asking for a response to a vaguely reasoned read.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Alchemist21

Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?

What answer were you expecting here?

It was an open ended question, so I wasn't expecting any answer in particular.

I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.

I didn't like the initial voting on UP2 when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting Michael Scott to explain why he thought UP2's posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on Nico. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like "where's the scum at"?

:/ I get my vote on Kokichi contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?

I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

Mmm, yes. This is how I feel too.

I'm not taking Pint having to push his content back as scum indicative but I'm saying it would've been bad if posts along those lines continued, which I guess is pointless now.

What makes you think I’m not being genuine? This sounds like a you just made up a reason to keep your vote where it was during RVS.

VOTE: Mewtaph

[Varsoon]

VOTE: STW

Please make a case, involving post links.

I can't bring myself to read all the pages in this thread because of the back-and-forths and filtering out a mountain of words for a few content-advancing statements hasn't done me well for comprehension.

It's in my ISO and emergent between my interactions with the STW slot.
If you still can't verify casing there, I can try?
I really don't wanna, though. :/

-V

[u r a person 2]

I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

could you please reword this? I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying here.

[Almost Chara]

If someone can explain to me why Meatloaf is stuck in my head, I'd appreciate it

I'd say it's because it's cold and you're hungry.

~A50

[Shoshin the worst]

I think scum was on STW's wagon regardless of STW's alignment. He was L-1'd, and this is a large. Granted, I do have a townread on STW, but it's faded the past few pages, I still stick to them-town.

...why has it faded?

[Shoshin the worst]

it's cold

and lonely in the deeeeep daaarkkk niiiiiight

[Shoshin the worst]

Seriously the thread needs to focus on someone else. The amount of bias here is making it excruciating to read.

Posts like ProFlavor's last one SHOULD come >rand from scum because of how conspicuously weighted they are. Taly's magical read reversal on us because we took a break from pushing the thread momentum for a few pages and others stated they still didn't like us should come >rand from scum. But everyone is so full of it I'm not really sure how I'm meant to be reading them.

Most of the active players are town. somewhere in {pintu, ProFlavor, Taly} is as deep as the deepwolves go. If Varsoon's vig isn't proven eventually, powerlynch him.

I'm getting tired of not being treated like a human and there's a weird clique of players who are just positioning as scum for nonsensical reasons, without actually thinking through anything (more likely to come from scum!ProFlavor than scum!Varsoon rn imo). my WIM is through the floor so I'm probably gonna be more low energy and less obvtown than I was a few pages ago.

[Shoshin the worst]

But if townies who suspect us can please reason through it with us rather than drive by shading we'd appreciate it. Makes you all easier to sort :p

[Shoshin the worst]

Someone explain scum!Alchemist to me? This just feels like a forced wagon. I literally don't get it.

[Tibor and Lumia]

Wait what? There's an Alchemist wagon WHY? I was fine being complacent earlier but this changes things
-Gamma

[Shoshin the worst]

I think it's just Mewtaph and Taly atm but it does not make any sense to me, either.

[Varsoon]

I'm not incredibly happy with Mewtaph's pushing there.
Makes some degree of sense, but it is what it is. Very curious.

-V

[Tibor and Lumia]

Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst

Oh nice
brass mentioned this but I wanted to see for myself what the deal was.
First impression would be this is a reaction test, but I think I saw V For Vendetta saying he meant this.
Since stw is still alive I'll ask: how did you survive, stw?
-Gamma "the hipfire king" Emerald

[Shoshin the worst]

:D so much opportunity to get pocketed!!

._. im gonna have to reread that playerlist movement night action stuff arent i?

not feeling the kokichi IC claim but i slight townvibe it anyway

VOTE: Almost Chara

RVS is bullshit but square up w me, both heads now

~ Taly

Taly's RVS post is what originally scumpinged me.
I don't think he's really done anything outside his scumrange (not anything particularly towny). Taly do you disagree? If I'm grossly misreading you here, help me see where I'm wrong. A lot your defence of yourself & probing of other slots has kind of skated around the centre; the way you do as scum (e.g. PYPX/Y).

> the pocketed comment & the thing wrt rereading playerlist movement just feels forced and stiff. I think there's a hesitation in Taly's tonality through the thread, so far, which I can't not notice.
> the comment about not feeling Kokichi's IC claim but townvibing it is absolutely bizarre. I can see this coming from someone who played SCM1 and liked the laissez-faire comedic entry to the thread but I literally can't see any reason to be townpinged by Kokichi lolclaiming IC and then lurking it out. This doesn't feel like critical reading so much as an agenda/TMI'd read and I think it's the kind of slip-up scum do make while still in RVS.
> RVS bullshit thing is incredibly forced (fwiw voting AC in rvs doesn't seem beneficial to me but I feel like I'm the only person onsite who enjoys RVS for content)

[Shoshin the worst]

Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst

Oh nice
brass mentioned this but I wanted to see for myself what the deal was.
First impression would be this is a reaction test, but I think I saw V For Vendetta saying he meant this.
Since stw is still alive I'll ask: how did you survive, stw?
-Gamma "the hipfire king" Emerald

i literally do not know, Varsoon & AC have been speculating about it but it's not interesting to me

[Alchemist21]

Taly’s vote seemed more like a pressure vote to get a response from me. Mewtaph’s reason for keeping his was sketchy.

[ProFlavor]

Posts like ProFlavor's last one SHOULD come >rand from scum because of how conspicuously weighted they are

no idea what that means but I'm around for a bit so AMA if you want.

I am currently trying to asses Taly - in a game where loads of people went 'I cant scum read anyone' he had loads of different reads. not sure if this is AI... will come back later with a decision

~woof