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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:45 am
by Mephistophanes 39
In post 974, NicoRobin wrote:I clearly said '/in to replace' in the sign-up thread.......
In post 87, NicoRobin wrote:/in to replace

UNVOTE:

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:49 am
by Varsoon
VOTE: STW

Nico, I understand you wanted to replace in, but now you're in the game--you wanted to play in it anyway, right?
No one's forcing you to play here--replace out if you don't want to play.
Just don't play the victim card is all.

-V

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 am
by Taly
In post 965, Mewtaph wrote: Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.
Good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Are there any posts you want to have addressed in particular?

VOTE: Alchemist21

I want
Alchemist
to reply to
In post 965, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 772, Mewtaph wrote:I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.
I didn't like the initial voting on
UP2
when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting
Michael Scott
to explain why he thought
UP2's
posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on
Nico
. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like
"where's the scum at"
?

:/ I get my vote on
Kokichi
contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint
pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?
I thought ignoring
u r a person 2's
self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.
I think scum was on
STW's
wagon regardless of
STW's
alignment. He was L-1'd, and this is a large. Granted, I do have a townread on
STW
, but it's faded the past few pages, I still stick to them-town.

I also feel like scum would've hopped on
UP2
too when
STW's
wagon began to crumble.
STW
felt like the only person pushing
UP2
through getting his reads (ISO
STW
, there are a lot of direct interactions between in their posts 400-600), and while
Pint
made a few points on
UP2
, I don't feel his read is strong based off the reasoning in

This
"we're lynching
Nico/Koki/lurker
"
is about the worst lynch decision possible for the gamestate, and on D1 in general tbh.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 am
by Taly
In post 976, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: STW
Please make a case, involving post links.

I can't bring myself to read all the pages in this thread because of the back-and-forths and filtering out a mountain of words for a few content-advancing statements hasn't done me well for comprehension.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:15 am
by Taly
In post 974, NicoRobin wrote:I clearly said '/in to replace' in the sign-up thread.......
Tough world.

Is your
STW
-scumread confident? Any other thoughts on the game?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:38 am
by Tibor and Lumia
Since Gamma didn't do this.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Pintu

I don't remember this many fluff posts coming from him before.

-A Brass Out of Hell (If someone can explain to me why Meatloaf is stuck in my head, I'd appreciate it)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:45 am
by Taly
actually noted

this is
Pint's
major dump on the thread, but in his ISO he only engages with
URAP2
in two other posts, with several talking about him which doesn't really expand on an evolving read around him.

I want
Pint
to talk about his other reads, too.

((also, wrong post link in my , was meant to link and not ))

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:47 am
by Alchemist21
In post 952, Taly wrote:
Alchemist
is someone I want to sort more.

I can see scum take the positions he's had (namely the vote/rationality on
STW
, and the vote/unvote onto
UP2
), but, alongside my other iffy/scumlean reads, a lot of people don't agree.

ProFlavor
,
Michael Scott
, and
Pint
need an individual ISO for me to get thoughts rolling on them.

Mephisto reread
/
UP2 Wagon Evaluation
/
ProFlavor/Michael Scott/Pint
are the areas of sorting I'm looking to absolve in the next 2 days.
I don’t know what you expect me to respond to here. I’ve made myself pretty clear so if you’re still insure about something you’ll need to ask specific questions instead of asking for a response to a vaguely reasoned read.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:50 am
by Alchemist21
In post 965, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 63, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21
Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?
Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.
In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 765, Mewtaph wrote:Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?
What answer were you expecting here?
It was an open ended question, so I wasn't expecting any answer in particular.
In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 772, Mewtaph wrote:I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.
I didn't like the initial voting on
UP2
when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting
Michael Scott
to explain why he thought
UP2's
posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on
Nico
. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like
"where's the scum at"
?

:/ I get my vote on
Kokichi
contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint
pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?
I thought ignoring
u r a person 2's
self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

Mmm, yes. This is how I feel too.

I'm not taking
Pint
having to push his content back as scum indicative but I'm saying it would've been bad if posts along those lines continued, which I guess is pointless now.
What makes you think I’m not being genuine? This sounds like a you just made up a reason to keep your vote where it was during RVS.

VOTE: Mewtaph

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:14 am
by Varsoon
In post 978, Taly wrote:
In post 976, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: STW
Please make a case, involving post links.

I can't bring myself to read all the pages in this thread because of the back-and-forths and filtering out a mountain of words for a few content-advancing statements hasn't done me well for comprehension.
It's in my ISO and emergent between my interactions with the STW slot.
If you still can't verify casing there, I can try?
I really don't wanna, though. :/

-V

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:41 am
by u r a person 2
In post 965, Mewtaph wrote:I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.
could you please reword this? I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying here.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:32 am
by Almost Chara
In post 980, Tibor and Lumia wrote:If someone can explain to me why Meatloaf is stuck in my head, I'd appreciate it
I'd say it's because it's cold and you're hungry.

~A50

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:47 am
by Shoshin the worst
In post 977, Taly wrote:I think scum was on STW's wagon regardless of STW's alignment. He was L-1'd, and this is a large. Granted, I do have a townread on STW, but it's faded the past few pages, I still stick to them-town.
...why has it faded?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:49 am
by Shoshin the worst
In post 986, Almost Chara wrote:it's cold
and lonely in the deeeeep daaarkkk niiiiiight

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:53 am
by Shoshin the worst
Seriously the thread needs to focus on someone else. The amount of bias here is making it excruciating to read.

Posts like ProFlavor's last one SHOULD come >rand from scum because of how conspicuously weighted they are. Taly's magical read reversal on us because we took a break from pushing the thread momentum for a few pages and others stated they still didn't like us should come >rand from scum. But everyone is so full of it I'm not really sure how I'm meant to be reading them.

Most of the active players are town. somewhere in {pintu, ProFlavor, Taly} is as deep as the deepwolves go. If Varsoon's vig isn't proven eventually, powerlynch him.

I'm getting tired of not being treated like a human and there's a weird clique of players who are just positioning as scum for nonsensical reasons, without actually thinking through anything (more likely to come from scum!ProFlavor than scum!Varsoon rn imo). my WIM is through the floor so I'm probably gonna be more low energy and less obvtown than I was a few pages ago.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:54 am
by Shoshin the worst
But if townies who suspect us can please reason through it with us rather than drive by shading we'd appreciate it. Makes you all easier to sort :p

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:01 am
by Shoshin the worst
Someone explain scum!Alchemist to me? This just feels like a forced wagon. I literally don't get it.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:07 am
by Tibor and Lumia
Wait what? There's an Alchemist wagon WHY? I was fine being complacent earlier but this changes things
-Gamma

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:09 am
by Shoshin the worst
I think it's just Mewtaph and Taly atm but it does not make any sense to me, either.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:11 am
by Varsoon
I'm not incredibly happy with Mewtaph's pushing there.
Makes some degree of sense, but it is what it is. Very curious.

-V

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:11 am
by Tibor and Lumia
In post 543, Varsoon wrote:Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst
Oh nice
brass mentioned this but I wanted to see for myself what the deal was.
First impression would be this is a reaction test, but I think I saw V For Vendetta saying he meant this.
Since stw is still alive I'll ask: how did you survive, stw?
-Gamma "the hipfire king" Emerald

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:13 am
by Shoshin the worst
In post 43, Taly wrote::D so much opportunity to get pocketed!!

._. im gonna have to reread that playerlist movement night action stuff arent i?

not feeling the
kokichi
IC claim but i slight townvibe it anyway

VOTE: Almost Chara

RVS is bullshit but square up w me, both heads now

~ Taly
Taly's RVS post is what originally scumpinged me.
I don't think he's really done anything outside his scumrange (not anything particularly towny). Taly do you disagree? If I'm grossly misreading you here, help me see where I'm wrong. A lot your defence of yourself & probing of other slots has kind of skated around the centre; the way you do as scum (e.g. PYPX/Y).

> the pocketed comment & the thing wrt rereading playerlist movement just feels forced and stiff. I think there's a hesitation in Taly's tonality through the thread, so far, which I can't not notice.
> the comment about not feeling Kokichi's IC claim but townvibing it is absolutely bizarre. I can see this coming from someone who played SCM1 and liked the laissez-faire comedic entry to the thread but I literally can't see any reason to be townpinged by Kokichi lolclaiming IC and then lurking it out. This doesn't feel like critical reading so much as an agenda/TMI'd read and I think it's the kind of slip-up scum do make while still in RVS.
> RVS bullshit thing is incredibly forced (fwiw voting AC in rvs doesn't seem beneficial to me but I feel like I'm the only person onsite who enjoys RVS for content)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:14 am
by Shoshin the worst
In post 995, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 543, Varsoon wrote:Just gonna bring this into overdrive, actually, and go for the dunk.
Day Vig: Shoshin the Worst
Oh nice
brass mentioned this but I wanted to see for myself what the deal was.
First impression would be this is a reaction test, but I think I saw V For Vendetta saying he meant this.
Since stw is still alive I'll ask: how did you survive, stw?
-Gamma "the hipfire king" Emerald
i literally do not know, Varsoon & AC have been speculating about it but it's not interesting to me

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:14 am
by Alchemist21
Taly’s vote seemed more like a pressure vote to get a response from me. Mewtaph’s reason for keeping his was sketchy.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:15 am
by ProFlavor
In post 989, Shoshin the worst wrote:Posts like ProFlavor's last one SHOULD come >rand from scum because of how conspicuously weighted they are
no idea what that means but I'm around for a bit so AMA if you want.

I am currently trying to asses Taly - in a game where loads of people went 'I cant scum read anyone' he had loads of different reads. not sure if this is AI... will come back later with a decision

~woof