Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Campsite Channel

Lol a good player can have bad games too, Joan, of course they can. mastina fucked up town badly on Red Flag, for example. She was the town leader there and even with the scumteam playing pretty good, mastina was responsible of making that game impossible for town to win.

Uh, I wasn't the town leader at all that game?

I also scumread most of the scumteam, too, but that was the game that caused me to stop trying to read Gamma because I meant what I said; if she was town I was never seeing it and I would forever revoke my right to read her--which I told you this game. I said I couldn't read her, that I had no right to, specifically because I committed to voting her that game.

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Torque & Pink Ball Neighborhood

she played with what I was feeling at that moment.

It's honestly one of the only things I'm good at doing.
Pushing people with what they feel at that moment.
I am usually fairly good at getting actionable information out of those pushes--I fully admit that D3 onwards, my ability to do so was compromised, but as I've explained before, that was due to myself being compromised. I knew SuperfluousNinja was tilted because of MY push on him, and that colored my perspective. It biased my viewpoint in multiple ways; it made me think the scumteam was going to continue to react negatively to my pushes, it made me incredibly survivalistic, and it made me in general read things with a level of discare towards hostility, both in terms of reading others and in terms of keeping it in check.

When I promised that my play this game would normally NEVER be this way, I meant it. The SuperfluousNinja modkill was, in a way, tilting to me, in spite of him being the one that was tilted. I DO think that if you check my play, there is a quite self-obvious, self-evident stark contrast between pre-SuperfluousNinja-modkill-mastina, and post-SuperfluousNinja-modkill-mastina, and I promise you it is exactly because of what happened to me, which I couldn't share. I was frustrated that I fucking knew what happened, and knew the scum knew what happened by proxy, yet couldn't tell the town what happened without being modkilled.

[Alisae]

I think my main takeaway from this game is: "Wow! That Akarin girl is really, really cool... and I wanna be her friend!"

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Torque & Pink Ball Neighborhood

I would love to know how mastina would read herself if she didn't know her alignment in this game. I think she would scumread herself.

Nope!
I have the How to Read mastina: the Flowchart, and I know how to use it.
I checked literally almost every single town box there while only checking one or two of the scum boxes--which I deliberately checked, thanks to the SuperfluousNinja modkill. (I switched gears to focus on defense, a signature move of scumastina. But that was literally the only thing I did, and I did it quite deliberately because I wasn't getting fucking lynched after that so I was pulling a no holds barred outright brawl to stop it--including channeling my scumgame.)

If you followed the flowchart this game, you would've been able to painfully, PAINFULLY be aware of how much it was my towngame.

[Ankamius]

I think my main takeaway from this game is: "Wow! That Akarin girl is really, really cool... and I wanna be her friend!"

[singletonking]

Mastina how accurate is that thing in reading you

Does it read you as town all the time?

Or does it read you pretty accurately? If so it's kind of a trust tell.

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Amzela & Torque Neighborhood

But yeah. It’s juet a private hood. To talk. Because I really want to like Mastina but I have trouble reading her stuff as non-emotional or not-defensive.

The reason for this is that I was very emotional and very defensive--for damn fucking good reason.

If what had happened to me, had happened to you--that is, you knew scum that you'd pushed messaged you and got modkilled for it--and then after that,

you were pushed as said scum's scumbuddy

, how would YOU react?

I'd bet you'd be pretty fucking emotional and defensive!

[Pink Ball]

You keep saying that the scumteam knew that SN pmed you and they didn't know, they didn't have that info. So yes, you were tilted 'cause you had more info than the rest of us and said info would've helped to read you as town; but that solves itself: we didn't know and couldn't know, so 1. there was no real reason to get tilted towards the rest of the playerlist, and 2. your reads were so bad that I (and other players) thought you had ulterior motives for the pushes you did.

Soooo... Gg it was a cool game

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Setup Creation / Backup / Review

Mastina is just being super tilted for eating bad pressure when she (correctly imo) thinks she’s obvtown (even WITHOUT the ninja stuff).

Pretty much, yeah!
I didn't need the SuperfluousNinja modkill to be obvtown, but knowing I had that

on top

of what was already there? Adding fuel to the fire.

[mastina]

nah i had shit reads all game

I won't pretend I did any better!

[mastina]

That image would never apply though because I've never once stated I was a scumhunting god. If you thought otherwise, you were misinformed.

[Pink Ball]

But looking back into the game I aknowledge how obtown you were, mastina. The problem was that A50 was obvtown too

[mastina]

Can we discuss the fact that Dunn was objectively town MVP this game
And pretty close to town mvp in gifs game
What is going on

Dunnstral is a ridiculously underrated player. I've always thought him to be fairly competent, he's just someone who is incredibly low-key, so

even knowing that he is fairly competent

, even KNOWING that, I tend to in spite of knowing he's competent, tend to still be suspicious of him when I know I shouldn't, and not sheep him when I know I should.

Kinda like Creature in that way.

[Wisdom]

im too inclined to hunt for scum manipulators/masterminds that its a problem when there are none

[mastina]

Mastina how accurate is that thing in reading you

About 80%, thereabouts, give or take 10%.

It is

incredibly

draining for scumastina to mimic town-mastina to the degrees necessary to hit the right notes--and even then, usually detrimental to do so because town-mastina is frankly a shittier player than scumastina, making it usually more trouble than it's worth to break significantly from the flowchart. The flowchart is an established set of habits and trends which are there because they are what I naturally default to, but it's not foolproof because obviously knowing about it, to some extent I can choose to subvert it.

I just usually don't.

You also have to keep in mind the flowchart's a guideline and that it is literally impossible to hit 100% all of the town notes and miss all the scum notes because some items are mutually exclusive. But this game's as close as you can get; if people had asked me for my mastina-is-town case, one of the items would've been me going through the flowchart line-by-line and demonstrating why almost every single line indicated I was town with the one or two exceptions (notably, my self-defense) being for the reasons I explained; I had a damn fucking strong motivation to

live

, or more accurately, not be lynched.

If so it's kind of a trust tell.

It's not a trust tell because it is not something deliberately enforced.
It is a meta tell.
It is self-meta, yes, because I wrote the flowchart.
But it is not something I try to uphold. I don't

intentionally

uphold it. It's just that when I wrote it, I wrote

that damn accurate

an analysis of my game--an analysis so accurate, I

can't break it

. I can subvert it, I can manipulate it, but the flowchart to this day remains accurate, not because I chose to keep it that way, but because

I literally can't change my nature to make it NOT be that way

.

You know those psychological profiles I tend to write about others?
And how often I tend to be usually in the right ballpark and fairly accurate overall?
The flowchart was me psychologically profiling

myself

, and as a result, it is the most accurate of accurate psychological profiles. Since while I may not have a perfect understanding of myself, I sure have a better understanding of myself than any other individual; I know nobody as well as I know myself, so it figures my self-profile is more accurate than my profile of anyone else.

Believe me, I'd break free of it if I could. It's just that I

can't

, because the flowchart nailed my inner nature. It literally tells you who I am as a person. (Which is to say that I am a shitlord as town. )

[mastina]

You keep saying that the scumteam knew that SN pmed you and they didn't know, they didn't have that info.

They knew, through the announcement, that SuperfluousNinja had contacted

someone

and ate a modkill as a result.

They knew, through it not being themselves, it was not contacting scum.

They therefore knew it would be through contacting a member of the town.

And thus they would be able to, reasonably, deduce that it was me who was contacted.

Or so that was my impression at the time.
You follow the logic, yes? And why I had that impression that scum

knew

it was me contacted?

[Pink Ball]

I follow the logic, but there's no certainty about that, that's all. Maybe they didn't care at all since he was going to get lynched either way, and both Joan and Torque were playing good without SN

[mastina]

It literally tells you who I am as a person. (Which is to say that I am a shitlord as town. )

(Seriously, I encourage a read of it--it paints a

very

unflattering picture as to the nature of my towngame. Like, it literally tells you at every turn, "is this negative trait present? It indicates town. Is this negative trait present? It indicates town". Because...well...I am just a shitty person. I try to not be, but literally what you see in my towngames

is

the "trying not to be"; just imagine me but ten times worse and you'd get what I'd be if I didn't try. I'm just that shitty a person.)

[mastina]

I follow the logic, but there's no certainty about that, that's all.

There's no certainty to a person like you.
Did you really learn nothing about me as to guess why it'd feel certain to

me

?

[mastina]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size - Control Room (Mod/SPOILERS Thread)

did u ever guess as to what all your cards did? I don't mind spoiling fwiw but it's more fun to guess first

Only that strength = strongman/strong-willed and some form of perma-roleblock, with a sense that Fortune was some form of protective and might've inversely created some form of Weak modifier.

So, was in the right ballpark, but not really, no; I never guessed.

[Pink Ball]

I follow the logic, but there's no certainty about that, that's all.

There's no certainty to a person like you.
Did you really learn nothing about me as to guess why it'd feel certain to

me

?

Lol I meant "certainty" as like, the definition. You can't be sure either but yeah I understand that you felt that way. And yes, it is pretty clear the change of playstyle after the incident

[Joan of Arc]

Those of you who are interested, play with us: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=79323

[Krazy]

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[Joan of Arc]

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Please?

[Toogeloo]

But looking back into the game I aknowledge how obtown you were, mastina. The problem was that A50 was obvtown too

You need to be able to diffuse an obvtown v. obvtown situation.

On Night 2, I had a good portion of the game sorted and had at least 4 locktown players. I guess I couldn't make myself any more obvtown, but I can understand how a room full of egos could see me as a distraction.

Good job not letting the game fall apart in the end, town, but I feel like had Robert not been modkilled, scum may have been in a position numbers-wise to win, especially with the clashing of egos.

Ascetic Priest... I couldn't wrap my head around that, but had I lived to day 3, mastina probably would have pushed my lynch anyways, and I much prefer being night killed rather than lynched, so I'm fine with my exit.