Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Wooper]

who

[Alisae]

i hear katsuki had amazing reads

bruh

[Ankamius]

i hear katsuki had amazing reads

katsuki's read strength didn't matter after day 1

[Alisae]

he was a beloved princess

[Alisae]

you know
that one role that mods never put in their games since I've been on site, maybe longer

[RadiantCowbells]

i plan to make a beloved princess role and give it to jeanne11

[Alisae]

while ur at it you should also visit her LOL

[Bingle]

you know
that one role that mods never put in their games since I've been on site, maybe longer

I see beloved princess almost as often as dreaming god.

[Alisae]

you know
that one role that mods never put in their games since I've been on site, maybe longer

I see beloved princess almost as often as dreaming god.

that's news to me.
I have NEVER seen 1
EVER

[Aristophanes]

I mean, I've definitely seen a Beloved Princess at least once, possibly a couple times on MS

[Aristophanes]

But that also somewhat sidesteps the conversation a bit.

Blaming Alisae for the town's loss is ridiculous. This game was as much our loss at it was scum's win, and scapegoating Ali really detracts from that. Scum had to sidestep a lot, had to provide some good theatre, had to interact with Pine, who was confirmed scum, without any of them seeming scummy for it. They had to use the fruit mechanical carefully in order to neutralize the benefits gained. Sure they got a couple lucky breaks, but it was a well played scumgame!

Blaming the setup is a cop out too. Town had a decent chance at power and if we hadn't lost much of it early on, we may have obliterated the scumteam! Alas that was not the case. In a vacuum is how setups are made, one can't change the setup based on playerbase, so what is a mod to do?

If we keep blaming other aspects of the game we'll never grow as players. Maybe some introspection would do everyone some good

[Ankamius]

But that also somewhat sidesteps the conversation a bit.

Blaming Alisae for the town's loss is ridiculous. This game was as much our loss at it was scum's win, and scapegoating Ali really detracts from that. Scum had to sidestep a lot, had to provide some good theatre, had to interact with Pine, who was confirmed scum, without any of them seeming scummy for it. They had to use the fruit mechanical carefully in order to neutralize the benefits gained. Sure they got a couple lucky breaks, but it was a well played scumgame!

Blaming the setup is a cop out too. Town had a decent chance at power and if we hadn't lost much of it early on, we may have obliterated the scumteam! Alas that was not the case. In a vacuum is how setups are made, one can't change the setup based on playerbase, so what is a mod to do?

If we keep blaming other aspects of the game we'll never grow as players. Maybe some introspection would do everyone some good :)

I appreciate you Ari

[RadiantCowbells]

i blame alisae for the towns loss now because i'm a rebel

[RadiantCowbells]

whose with me

[Something_Smart]

I mean, I've definitely seen a Beloved Princess at least once, possibly a couple times on MS

We played in a Princess Bride game a while back that had one (shocker, it was the princess).

It was also a terribly designed game though so not a point in the role's favor.

[Something_Smart]

What are you talking about RC, we've already established that everything bad that happens ever is Dann's fault.

[Gamma Emerald]

i plan to make a beloved princess role and give it to jeanne11

Tell her to stop being a coward and actually use her main instead of alt hopping constantly when you see her

[chennisden]

Hi deepwolf danny

[Jingle]

you know
that one role that mods never put in their games since I've been on site, maybe longer

I see beloved princess almost as often as dreaming god.

that's news to me.
I have NEVER seen 1
EVER

That's the joke, Ali. I'm pretty sure your TM theme was the only time I've actually seen Dreaming God in a game without going back through the archives. Although I think I might have seen a Beloved Princess in Imaginary Fights? Maybe? Sounds like something that would have been in that setup.

[Jingle]

i blame alisae for the towns loss now because i'm a rebel

Alisae is a DANNFLOR alt?

[Menalque]

I was right when I was wondering if you no-killed the night Ali protected Wooper then?

[Jingle]

Nah, they tried to kill Wooper.

No killing into an extra lynch is almost always a bad choice.

[Menalque]

oh man, I took a break from this thread and honestly had forgotten that Wooper wasn't on the scumteam

[Ankamius]

menalque let's play another game sometime

I'm kinda curious about your style now

[Menalque]

God, I played like fucking trash this game. Sorry to literally everyone on town but especially gamma, fb, and Ali.

I'm honestly just frustrated with myself about what feels like a long series of bad decisions culminating in the game losing vote, alongside a total failure to prosecute anything that I was actually right on in the game, or even to really push it mostly.

I think scum played very well, so I guess the reason I was upset is it just felt like I fucked up one thing after another this game.

Wrong SRs on chicka/ank early on. Right that PB's interactions were off with me but let that go and allowed him to pocket me by halfway through the game, despite knowing that my early reads are often better than my late game ones. Noticing that things were weird between dann/krazy but not really pushing it. Missing ank's crumb. Not trying to push back against DGB/think about that more critically. Not pushing PP hard enough. Getting locked into an idiotic SR on pops and Titus. Thinking both the masons were plausibly scum. Voting mastina despite thinking she was town because I thought that resolving the issue would help the gamestate enough for it to be worth losing one town considering I wasn't certain about her. Not being able to parse the WIFOM from Pine's deal correctly. Mislynching fb. Casting that vote on gamma when I knew that dann was more likely scum, I just didn't really think that gamma could genuinely think that pine's deal was theatre.

I appreciate people saying that this was a hard game or that I played decently, but I just think that up to my own standards I was really subpar here. I think I'm ready to engage with the thread again, and would welcome any feedback if people are willing to provide it for me.