mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Titus]

Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.

Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.

Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.

[MathBlade]

sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"

Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.

sorry. this was the way the game was balanced at the outset and certain other players have the understanding that is how it would proceed. to clarify things for you, though, i will let you know that there are two other segments of non-town, one of which does not count toward your wincondition and one that does

Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.

[Titus]

No one wanted to hood you or Bell because you were already known not to suicide.

[MathBlade]

Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.

Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.

Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.

You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.

[Titus]

sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"

Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.

sorry. this was the way the game was balanced at the outset and certain other players have the understanding that is how it would proceed. to clarify things for you, though, i will let you know that there are two other segments of non-town, one of which does not count toward your wincondition and one that does

Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.

So our claimed wincons had nothing to do with this choice?

[Titus]

Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.

Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.

Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.

You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.

We claimed no other scum could exist. That's why A50 crew was conftown to us.

[Titus]

Lol the Titus contracting thing was fun RNG but realistically unusable.

[MathBlade]

sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"

Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.

sorry. this was the way the game was balanced at the outset and certain other players have the understanding that is how it would proceed. to clarify things for you, though, i will let you know that there are two other segments of non-town, one of which does not count toward your wincondition and one that does

Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.

So our claimed wincons had nothing to do with this choice?

Town+ typically can be gated by points or events.

A50 did not claim any additional win cons and the fact they claimed grey flip made me think neut combined with your green flip.

[MathBlade]

Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.

Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.

Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.

You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.

We claimed no other scum could exist. That's why A50 crew was conftown to us.

Yes you did.

But neut isn’t scum. You’re a hyper literal player Titus and so is Mastina.

[MathBlade]

And you can lie.

[Nero Cain]

I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.

[Titus]

GG Math. I'm off to DnD now. It was close.

So basically, don't trust Titus lol.

We can talk more later if you want but this game was close than it seemed.

[Nero Cain]

also @ first a50 was pushing a shelly/tpg team and I had wanted a dead shelly do he could move on.

[Titus]

I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.

Lol yeah. I had to remind you of that.

I still will not regain the hair I lost from screaming "We don't count for parity."

[MathBlade]

GG Math. I'm off to DnD now. It was close.

So basically, don't trust Titus lol.

We can talk more later if you want but this game was close than it seemed.

I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.

I wish you had.

But yeah this was close.

I kinda wanna move on from this game because I kinda feel it was bastard. But maybe that’s just because of what I saw.

[Nero Cain]

i just want to read the scum thread and the intern thread but we gotta w8 :/

[NorwegianboyEE]

Game was balanced imo.
If you two has just convinced us to eliminate Shelly and then TGP it would have been a loss.

[superbowl9]

Yeah I don't think the game was very unbalanced actually, we needed the help as town. Imagine if we hadn't hit scum D1

[Chemist1422]

i don't think the game was townsided per se but it felt very anti-scum

[MathBlade]

Imho no.
Scum by premise are the informed minority.

Titus Mastina and Nero’s hood were the informed minority.
I get scum won’t have all the information but literally telling 3P the entire setup is bad.

[schadd_]

Yeah I don't think the game was very unbalanced actually, we needed the help as town. Imagine if we hadn't hit scum D1

there were also 3 prs that instantly got doinked. i'm very confident it was townsided even with interns not counting for parity

[Tayl0r Swift]

for the record i did like the public cop mechanic. it was a fun gimmick, but scum just needed a couple extra members to counter the inevitable deaths that came from it. most of the mechanics individually were fun, but there were just too many of them that helped town and not enough that helped scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why was i confirmed town? Who did it?

[MathBlade]

Likely the mod.

We were told D1 there would be a list of names (not who would we on it), and we could repeat freely from said list.

Not sure why or how it was just one name.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did mod randomly pick someone to be confirmed town?