The Resistance 6p: Marathon Edition! (GAME OVER)

[Something_Smart]

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[Something_Smart]

PSA: IF YOU ARE TOWN, DO NOT VOTE FOR A TEAM THAT CANNOT POSSIBLY PASS FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

Thanks in advance.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: S_S, Espeonage

[Mathdino]

Math you missed this

Vote: Espe, SS, Xy

Fixed.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: S_S, Espeonage, Wisdom

[Something_Smart]

xyzzy team has a little bit too little resistance (heh) for my liking

[Something_Smart]

SS, why did you pick me day 1.

You voted yourself and nobody else voted for you.

[Something_Smart]

hello

hello

I'm at a place called vertigo

[Something_Smart]

Any team will have resistance in 3. The person who is off it that votes it needs to believe the 3rd person is town. And tbh I like Xy for town rn most out of the other 4.

fair point. how come you like xyzzy?

[Something_Smart]

can I hammer?

pls not quite yet

[Something_Smart]

I could swing on to the wis option. But I expect it to fail.

you're that confident in wisdom scum?

[Something_Smart]

Ah.

[Something_Smart]

how come you like xyzzy?

[Something_Smart]

I don't want espeonage on it actually, I feel uneasy with his push of "hey I could totally go with wisdom and something_smart but it will probably fail and it's compltely not my fault"

he never said that?

[Something_Smart]

Well

[Something_Smart]

He sort of did, but not really the way you phrased it

[Something_Smart]

Espe implied that it wasn't his first choice but he could be convinced.
N made it sound like he was enthusiastic about it.

[Something_Smart]

Also who is going to admit that a fail might be their fault?

[Something_Smart]

Espe implied that it wasn't his first choice but he could be convinced.
N made it sound like he was enthusiastic about it.

what

That's how I read it.

[Something_Smart]

You put that "totally" in there.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Something_Smart, Espeonage, xyzzy

[Something_Smart]

If this fails, Wisdom, I'd heavily consider going with you on mission 4.

[Something_Smart]

So either it's Wisdom/N or this fails

[Something_Smart]

woooooo

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Espeonage, Something_Smart, xyzzy, Alisae

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Espeonage, Something_Smart, xyzzy, Alisae

[Something_Smart]

actually no

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE:

[Something_Smart]

Ok I've decided
VOTE: Espe, xyzzy, Alisae, N

[Something_Smart]

And now I see that Espeonage reached the same conclusion before I did, though probably for a different reason

[Something_Smart]

Must be for a different reason, because part of my reason was his vote

[Something_Smart]

wat

[Something_Smart]

Here's my logic
If Wisdom is scum, it's not with Alisae because Alisae hammered the would-be all-town team
It's also not with Espe because Espe would be suggesting an all-town team
So if Wisdom is scum, then there was no scum on mission 2. Ergo, if there was scum on mission 2 then my vote contains both scum. Therefore we do my team followed by a repeat of mission 2 for a guaranteed scum trap.

[Something_Smart]

if we don't get it today then do we go back to the day 2 vote?

If my plan goes through, yes.

[Something_Smart]

Actually there was a flaw in my logic which I fixed when I formed it but not when I explained it. Wisdom/XYZZY needs to be ruled out and I did so but just gimme a sec to remember how

[Something_Smart]

Think it was from Wisdom immediately suggesting himself with me, Espe, and xyzzy day 3.

[Something_Smart]

Also I am willing to trust that if Espe is town then his Wisdom read is right.

[Something_Smart]

:/

Can I posit that we go

Vote: SS, Ali, Espe, N

Thought you had Wisdom town?

[Something_Smart]

Don't really see why that's unlikely to contain exactly 1 scum

[Something_Smart]

Lol

[Something_Smart]

Ali of course it's gonna fail

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Espeonage, Something_Smart, xyzzy, Wisdom

[Something_Smart]

Ali pls vote with us

1 minute

[Something_Smart]

Ah nvm

[Something_Smart]

That VC is not remotely right

[Something_Smart]

uh

then

VOTE: esp, xyzzy, wis

this is not the worst idea as it will confirm me as town

[Something_Smart]

btw ali is as good as confirmed town now.

How do you figure

[Something_Smart]

either esp or wis is scum and I feel better about esp

Espeonage still strongly thinks Wisdom is town though...

[Something_Smart]

neh its n and ss

why this rather than n/xyzzy?

[Something_Smart]

I think xyzzy is town because saying I want to sheep Ali sounds towny

How?

[Something_Smart]

If xyzzy is scum and your proposed team is flawed sheeping you is perfect to absolve blame

[Something_Smart]

Ok the main reason I am iffy on SS is I think I saw a message attempt.

This is why I was silent for much of the previous day.

[Something_Smart]

That was in reference to a team that Ali proposed, that e said would likely fail, that fmpov could not pass.

[Something_Smart]

But I townread xy

I don't

[Something_Smart]

Well actually
Espe do you still hard-townread Wisdom?

[Something_Smart]

I think Ali Espeonage Wis wins us the game here :/

How do you feel about S_S/Esp/Ali?

[Something_Smart]

Why

[Something_Smart]

Why

[Something_Smart]

Espe agrees that I would have failed the second mission unless I were scum with xyzzy
Espe thinks xyzzy is town

So why not trust me?

[Something_Smart]

I think espe and SS both would've sabotaged n2 if either of them were scum

That gets negated if you are also scum

[Something_Smart]

Ok unless N and I are fucking amazing, we aren't both scum.

agree, that would be a LONG con

[Something_Smart]

Ya, but that is not me agreeing. I'm saying his premise is negated.

Guess so.

Do you not agree?

[Something_Smart]

I want to go along with that because xyzzy/N seems plausible but HOW DO I RECONCILE THIS

I'm just gonna sheep alisae, eir town

VOTE: espe, alisae, ss, wisdom

[Something_Smart]

xyzzy/Alisae?

[Something_Smart]

This is failing 100%

[Something_Smart]

At least it will basically clear me

[Something_Smart]

Not that that's really the position I'd like to be in :/

[Something_Smart]

I should also be clear?

[Something_Smart]

so...xyzzy/N you are suggesting then?

[Something_Smart]

Nah N has been playing trash. so it's SS, Me, Ali, Xy

Do you see a potential problem with this

[Something_Smart]

Wisdom/N...?

[Something_Smart]

Ali why do you believe a scumteam of Wisdom/N is unlikely?

[Something_Smart]

I mean, you sort of are.

[Something_Smart]

who was on the day 2 wagon that wasn't in the team?

Ali

[Something_Smart]

Didn't you just say that Wisdom town implied N town? Lol

[Something_Smart]

ESPEONAGE IS REALLY PINGING ME TODAY BUT HIS EARLY GAME LOOKS GENUINE

[Something_Smart]

Yeah but Espe

Why would Wisdom 180 on N? All scum need is ONE member on the mission, not both.

[Something_Smart]

SS HELP ME WE'RE BOTH TOWN IN THIS SITUATION UNLESS MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS
BOTH WIS AND ESPEONAGE ARE PINGING ME TODAY AND IDUNNO WHICH ONE I THINK IS TOWN ANYMORE OH GOD PLEASE HELP ME.

I would lean toward Espe town as well.

I would certainly feel better losing to Espe than I would to Wisdom.

[Something_Smart]

At one point I believe N tried to intentionally tie himself to me.

[Something_Smart]

Also N is remaining on a bad vote

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Espeonage, xyzzy, Something_Smart, Alisae

Ali we tried our best, no matter the result

[Something_Smart]

YAY ALI WE DID IT

We were so close to winning D3, if only Espe hadn't decided to townread Wisdom we could have won super fast

[Something_Smart]

Thank you Mathdino for modding, excellent moderation in both games

[Something_Smart]

This is far enough from mafia that you can run it in mish mash. In fact you might get pushback if you try to run it in a queue.

[Something_Smart]

I think the main thing that distinguishes this from what would be a nice elegant open setup is the rules on each day and the apparent arbitrariness of how many players are on a team, which are pretty unlike any opens.

I think the lack of player death and alignment flips is the biggest thing. Can't really think of any mafia setups where players don't die.