Light and Darkness Marathon - Game Over

[Boris]

/in

[Boris]

OMLLLLL

CRYING
BORIS MY COUSIN

NYYYEEEEEERRRRRR

[Boris]

Not sure I understand alien wincon. What is meant by "control the vote"?

impossible for them to get lynched if I understand correctly

[Boris]

OMLLLLL

CRYING
BORIS MY COUSIN

NYYYEEEEEERRRRRR

ITS BEEN A WHILE COUSIN
HOW WAS RUSSIA

cold af fam but vodkaaaa <3
how're things in the old pastures?

[Boris]

[Boris]

do you like my new haircut?

[Boris]

ugh yeah mary will never change, she needs to check herself. *eyeroll*

my secret?
hmm

Spoiler:

[Boris]

I honestly think they're missing out on a huge opportunity here.

[Boris]

na fam i'm town

[Boris]

i love dogs

bro do you love alpacas?

[Boris]

they're like a 7/10

i accept this, we deserve much better than we get

[Boris]

it's ok cuz like there's a 70% chance he's town because he's 70% right on alpacas, let's just cool it til lylo then lynch him

[Boris]

hey cuz can we close one eye at a time?
I've been trying lately but it's hard man

[Boris]

he can't wink

i can wink fam i just always wink with both eyes at the same time

[Boris]

why is there another word for double-winking? this is spinning me out

[Boris]

[businessman voice] Should I be expecting a role PM soon? I stopped a very important meme compilation on YouTube to be here.

soon bro, soon

[Boris]

[businessman voice] Should I be expecting a role PM soon? I stopped a very important meme compilation on YouTube to be here.

soon bro, soon

come chill in the sitechat lobby

[Boris]

I'll be back in a few. Rachel just brought around some fresh hay.

isn't she just the best?

[Boris]

the worst is my scumpartner

i know nothing about this

[Boris]

he never said boris though hmMMM
CUSIN DID YOU BETRAY ME

hey cuz
hey
hey

if anyone
is a traitor here
it's goddamn mary

[Boris]

rei you coming around on vicuñamas?

[Boris]

You're town if you stare into aliens' eyes and develop cataracts

decent strat bro, but wouldn't the blind have to random vote?
I don't really vibe this

[Boris]

invisibility you're scary.

[Boris]

invisibility why am I watching this?

[Boris]

okay yeah dude you're not wrong

[Boris]

maybe we should get my guy ircher that pagetop

[Boris]

theory: Myloninja13 is Mary

[Boris]

that's such a mary thing to do, sigh

[Boris]

Oh um, were we supposed to confirm our role PMs?

doesn't hurt dude, doesn't hurt

[Boris]

scum in {Boris, GuerillaWoo, Rei}
they don't understand true artistry

what makes you think that?

[Boris]

VOTE: Myloninja13

been a while, Mary. how's Shaun?

[Boris]

we're cousins.

[Boris]

VOTE: Myloninja13

been a while, Mary. how's Shaun?

He's... certainly a person I know?

Myloninja13 Maryslipped.

[Boris]

hey my cuz rei is the second recruiter

[Boris]

yuurei bro
the worst isn't here

what's on your mind?

[Boris]

yeah, poor dude's home planet called. I grabbed that slot.

[Boris]

isn't tw out?

yes
boris replaced him
he's a much better player tbh
good riddance

this is pretty much on the money

[Boris]

the worst isn't bad. I like how he sets expectations low via his username and cute fluffy appearance.

[Boris]

yuurei man no man that was bad news

[Boris]

the worst isn't bad. I like how he sets expectations low via his username and cute fluffy appearance.

true
almost got me with the cute duck avatar
almost

but you got him with that alpaca charm, right?

[Boris]

forgot T-Bone was even in the game. what's new, dude?

[Boris]

VOTE: Beefster

[Boris]

wait yuurei we should just work together so we can both win

this is your best bet fam
target different folks each night

[Boris]

actually not sure how tight I vibe T-Bone here.

[Boris]

i hit boris you hit rei

why would you divide family bro? </3

[Boris]

UNVOTE:

will shit blocks of hay if beef is an alien

[Boris]

this just ain't teamscum with a partner.

[Boris]

UNVOTE:

will shit blocks of hay if beef is an alien

Then if you didn't agree in the first place, why did you vote...knowing that quick lynches are the norm of marathons?

I didn't disagree in the first place. where did you get that from?

[Boris]

@beef bro, the recruiters are voteless. they don't have votes.
they're confirmed recruiters.

[Boris]

UNVOTE:

will shit blocks of hay if beef is an alien

Then if you didn't agree in the first place, why did you vote...knowing that quick lynches are the norm of marathons?

I didn't disagree in the first place. where did you get that from?

'will shit bricks if beef is an alien'

how many posts later after the dude voted conftown?

[Boris]

Recruit me Yuurei!

I don't know if this is the towniest shit ever or the scummiest thing ever my bird friend

that's more likely to come from town mylo

[Boris]

UNVOTE:

will shit blocks of hay if beef is an alien

Then if you didn't agree in the first place, why did you vote...knowing that quick lynches are the norm of marathons?

I didn't disagree in the first place. where did you get that from?

'will shit bricks if beef is an alien'

how many posts later after the dude voted conftown?

Let's make it simple. Explain your thought process from point a (the vote) to point b (the unvote).

"hey fumuki is finally town and beef could be scum *vote*"

> beef votes conftown

to me this just isn't likely to come from the man as groupscum. surely these alien dudes are communicating on this stuff.

[Boris]

do you really think I'd go this far out of my way to save dead weight?
sigh

[Boris]

You think Aliens have daytalk? or you know it?

it's marathon fam

[Boris]

do you really think I'd go this far out of my way to save dead weight?
sigh

you know you would cuz
you hate bussing

this is a real read I have fam

[Boris]

yuurei my man I think Mylo is town.

[Boris]

vote: boris

^ this dude's clearly not reading the thread

[Boris]

yeah nah this shit doesn't come from an experienced player

VOTE: T-Bone

alien flip or your hay back

[Boris]

he is using his meta more similar to his scum meta if he is town atm

the one where he says "lol" a lot
the bird guy's in the top half of my read list

[Boris]

Mylo nonny

rei and beef if you're town

flashwagon T-Bone

[Boris]

actually there is a chance that mylo has become self aware and is attempting to replicate his town meta so now im not sure

Invisibility flip a coin between {Mylo, nonny}
Yuurei flip a coin between {Mylo, Guerilla}

ask all 3 of them to claim first thing tomorrow, don't reveal which one/s you targeted until they have

[Boris]

I think my progression has been pretty solid. Unless someone has a compelling reason otherwise.

you're transparently ignoring my responses my dude

[Boris]

you decided you were scumreading me before we had a conversation

not even close to cool

[Boris]

my coinflip plan wins the game

[Boris]

go back to it please

[Boris]

you decided you were scumreading me before we had a conversation

not even close to cool

I asked a question that had a pretty simple a/b answer and you gave a cheeky one instead.

you needa show me what you're talking about here tomorrow bro because I just do not agree

[Boris]

stop don't say whoyou're recruiting here

^^

^ dead right.

coin flip it.

[Boris]

actually there is a chance that mylo has become self aware and is attempting to replicate his town meta so now im not sure

Invisibility flip a coin between {Mylo, nonny}
Yuurei flip a coin between {Mylo, Guerilla}

ask all 3 of them to claim first thing tomorrow, don't reveal which one/s you targeted until they have

agree, best plan.

[Boris]

sure, either way. restricting it to 3 smooths out the mass claim y'feel?

[Boris]

we should no lynch.

[Boris]

VTs who were recruited need to out first.

[Boris]

we should no lynch.

yuurei is gonna lose his shit when he sees this

[Boris]

Ok so I'm gonna roleclaim light recruit, believe fumu has to confirm but yeh. Conf!town babyyyy

fumu please confirm this


mylo's target also needs to confirm fam

[Boris]

mylo's = invisibility's*

I'm high off this rowdy hay fam

[Boris]

{Invisibility, Yuurei}
{nonny, Guerilla}
{Mylo, Beefster, Rei}

{the rest}


no lynch, then Yuurei flips a coin between {Mylo, Beef} and Invisibility flips a coin between {Beef, Rei}

[Boris]

Beef bro settle

[Boris]

we got this, trust

[Boris]

VOTE: no lynch

[Boris]

am I too used to Yuurei?
I called that troll from a mile away

[Boris]

no lynch

[Boris]

why the hell no lynch TW?

who?

[Boris]

well we can lynch if you guys want to, but it just speeds up the rate at which folks die.

we can confirm two more townies tomorrow. we lose 0-1 confirmed townies (n1 kill was poison).

[Boris]

{Invisibility, Yuurei}
{nonny, Guerilla}
{Mylo, Beefster, Rei}

{the rest}


no lynch, then Yuurei flips a coin between {Mylo, Beef} and Invisibility flips a coin between {Beef, Rei}

two of the {Mylo, Beefster, Rei} bracket are confirmed tomorrow.

[Boris]

isn't it odd night poison even night arso?

[Boris]

well we can lynch if you guys want to, but it just speeds up the rate at which folks die.

we can confirm two more townies tomorrow. we lose 0-1 confirmed townies (n1 kill was poison).

why poison and not arso?

if it's arso they are aiming to swipe the entire town

I knew you'd flip out when you saw me suggest a no lynch

[Boris]

tonight we get one flip (maybe conftown, maybe not).
n3 we get no flips.
n4 we get two flips, likely both conftown.

[Boris]

on further reflection I'm gonna put the Beefman and the Boneman in the middle of coinflips.

[Boris]

what's TW?

[Boris]

ok but just saying
if we give yuurei and invi 2 options to flip each
both options can just claim tomorrow since they'd lose anyway

this isnt a solid startegy
i think we just leave it up to them

either way works fam

[Boris]

what's TW?

Boris I mean :' (

I swear it's just the habit of saying a old friend name

that's pretty cute fu... muki....

[Boris]

if you think someone in the flip is probscum we just leave them out :3

[Boris]

if you guys wanna powerlynch T-Bone instead to assuage my vanity I will actually weep alpaca tears irl

but my strategy is better.

[Boris]

wait a minute Boris

this isn't a so good strat tbh

there's a hole there

If I was Mylo partner I would always say to him claim "didn't receive anything" there for a *reason*

I don't understand the reason fam

[Boris]

My point about not posting your recruitment options is just about eliminating the possibility of a successful fakeclaim

this.

{mylo, boris}
{mylo, rei}
hmm

great brackets tbh.

[Boris]

[quote="In post 437, Invisibility"][/quote]
takes
too
long

[Boris]

Ahhh, I'm not sure if I suggest it because it sounds really scummy though...

SUGGEST IT DUUUDE

[Boris]

yes nolynch asap

[Boris]

better to keep numbers even.

[Boris]

it's chill bro dw coinflip is the best strat.

[Boris]

ok i guess im coinflipping though

Don't coinflip in brackets, go with your heart

this is also fine just obv don't shoot whoever's already recruited y'know?

[Boris]

you guys totally shouldn't recruit me, yeah?
I'm not scum or anything.. just edgy.

[Boris]

mfw dodge has a 3-man scumteam

[Boris]

vote: boris

more cheekiness.

you needa show me what you think is cheeky and why you think it's scummy my dude
I shitpost as any alignment, most of this player list will back me up here.

[Boris]

@ircher will you accept a pre-emptive night action from Invisibility here?

[Boris]

I still don't need to show you anything if I'm trying to get you lynched Boris.

just forewarning, you'll stuff this up again in the future
more than once

[Boris]

VOTE: Dodge
ez game

[Boris]

UNVOTE:

[Boris]

brb getting some of that sweet sweet hay

[Boris]

I'm light recruit

[Boris]

also taught myself to wink

[Boris]

so it's {Beef, Dodge}

[Boris]

also taught myself to wink

thought this was more surprising tbh

[Boris]

so it's {Beef, Dodge}

Boris, come here, what were you thinking when you did this strategy?

I mean, I've not thought about all the consequences since I'm that lazy but is there a way to scum escape?

purely yolo fakeclaiming

[Boris]

yuurei has a master plan, on average, 137% of the time

[Boris]

the only time my dude's plans fail is when two of them conflict. that's how good he is.

[Boris]

does anyone want popcorn while fumuki interrogates them

hay flavour or

[Boris]

DodgeTheSaint was the mod all along

[Boris]

vote:ircher

we won

lol'd

[Boris]

dude

[Boris]

I'm light recruit

[Boris]

just took my time to watch Beef's sweet sweet fakeclaim play out. :3

[Boris]

VOTE: Beef

[Boris]

i'm light recruit

VOTE: Dodge
ez game

so, no one has anything to claim anymore?

and who is Dodge?

STOP FUCKING VOTING

brb getting some of that sweet sweet hay

wat
y

lmao

cof cof

has anyone something to say here?

I'm light recruit

so dodge is the last scum and this is a draw
VOTE: dodge

[Boris]

vote: boris

I was recruited. gg

which one?

[Boris]

if you're gonna fakeclaim roll the dice all the way

[Boris]

no.

[Boris]

actually not unvoting here I want my lynch

[Boris]

Nonny - dark
Guerilla - light
Rei - dark
Boris - light
Dodge - left over

[Boris]

I targeted Boris tonight.

So with Mylo dying and my hint Beef actually thought I recruited him and well

Boris is still silent?

LOL

LET ME JUST CHECK IF I CAN BE ROLEBLOCKED OR SOMETHING

If not yes, It was Boris/Beef,

Rei we had guessed right in d1

[Boris]

@yuurei that's the point of a claim gambit
you don't vote the confscum unless they've dug themselves 6 feet down

[Boris]

n1 - dark @ nonny
light @ guerilla

n2 - dark @ rei
light @ me

n3 - probably both @ dodge

[Boris]

if I'm wrong please speak up now

[Boris]

don't even pretend you don't know it's an even night arso. -_-

[Boris]

this is a gambit and it's not even a good one smh

[Boris]

FAM, DO NOT THROW DOWN VOTES MY DUDES. EITHER THE DARK OR LIGHT TEAM HAVE MORE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW AND WILL WIN IF WE HIT THE ALIEN.

[Boris]

FAM, DO NOT THROW DOWN VOTES MY DUDES. EITHER THE DARK OR LIGHT TEAM HAVE MORE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW AND WILL WIN IF WE HIT THE ALIEN.

pagetop

That's excessively large.
~Ircher

[Boris]

yeah no

[Boris]

Guerilla unvote

[Boris]

hear me out dude.

[Boris]

you literally lose the game by voting me here if you think I'm scum

[Boris]

FUMUKI AND GUERILLA YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME

[Boris]

Guerilla is actually anti-wincon by voting me if he thinks I'm scum. not even joking.

[Boris]

not talking til guerilla unvotes

[Boris]

okay fuck it I'm the alien

there's 2 dark votes and 1 light vote in play

if light votes for me, they're throwing the game

[Boris]

which is why Yuurei needs to listen and Guerilla needs to unvote rn

[Boris]

not talking til guerilla unvotes

Not unvoting 'til you talk

please quickly

[Boris]

I'm claiming scum

Guerilla unvote now or you lose

[Boris]

nonny and Rei are darkvoters


Guerilla is the only lightvoter

we need to remove a darkvoter

[Boris]

nonny and Rei are darkvoters


Guerilla is the only lightvoter

we need to remove a darkvoter

[Boris]

GUERILLA UNVOTE

[Boris]

rip

[Boris]

light team, wanna know where you went wrong?

@fam wanna know what my gambit was or

[Boris]

I was actually gonna fakeclaim light recruit (I had a gut ping Yuurei was gonna target me) but Beef ninja'd me.

[Boris]

wait how was dodge recruited if he didn't change factions?

he did, he flipped light voter

[Boris]

so entering day 5 we had four votes

2 darkvotes
1 lightvote
1 alien

to have a full town win light actually needed to realise that lynching me would throw the game (which I did try to explain but I was also teh scumz so I guess no one was gonna listen)

optimal play here if dark agreed would be to lynch one of {nonny, Rei} since I didn't have a n5 action and then lynch me tomorrow for a full town win

[Boris]

Ok so Boris was recruited but also fake claimed. GG.

Sorry for hesitation in the end game. How come no one actually died by fire?

I was gonna fakeclaim missing my n2 action, and say I had Rei and only Rei primed.

then i was gonna ignite n6 if people went through with the dumber part of my gambit for the win

[Boris]

BTW, the reason I didn't want you guys to recruit me is because I thought I was going to die, and if I didn't I'd just reveal my role day 3 anyway lol.

I think you saying that pinged scum that you're a PR.

^ this.

[Boris]

you were playing like mylo impersonating mylo's scum meta
that's a pr tell

[Boris]

You have to prime the arsonist ability first on targets before igniting them. That takes two separate nights minimum.

Ah didn't know that.

So why not light up guerrilla night 4?

because I was hoping to bring Guerilla/Yuurei around d5, since they lost by lynching me there.

[Boris]

BTW, the reason I didn't want you guys to recruit me is because I thought I was going to die, and if I didn't I'd just reveal my role day 3 anyway lol.

I think you saying that pinged scum that you're a PR.

^ this.

Ya'll poisoned N1. He wasn't saying that D1 unless I'm mistaken.

that wasn't what pinged me initially but it was a great shout from Guerilla independently

[Boris]

Greatest game of all.

Guerilla I'm sorry brother, I fucked up for us.

Basically I gambited and Boris gambited at the same time. That's why I only realized at the begin of the next day.

I was totally suspicious of how long Boris took to say "confscum Beef" and vote for Beef, but I had to consider that it was a marathon game and everything was too fast. I didn't know if he had seen beef before.

Still, like I said, I would have voted Boris in day 3 IF I was alone. I didn't knew what would happen if we did lynch scum in day 4 bc I'm lazy to think and if Boris was town everyone would badmouthed to no end if we lost there. Really sorry T-bone and Guerilla.

VERY WELL PLAYED BORIS S2

we are too in sync....
S2

[Boris]

You have to prime the arsonist ability first on targets before igniting them. That takes two separate nights minimum.

Ah didn't know that.

So why not light up guerrilla night 4?

I can be buddied easily


That's what people always think but i've made it decades, decades i tell you, without friends

omg so relatable

but also didn't need to buddy you, it was mechanically better to vote with me

[Boris]

if in doubt, assume Rei is evil

she totally went for the dark win > full town win

[Boris]

it's ok, it was either a dark win d5 or a 50/50 scum/full town win d6-n6 (depending on how much people followed me)

[Boris]

guerilla was the only one who could vote so if light decided to team up with aliens it would be me and nonny vs. boris and geurilla
that would be a no lynch so he would light up both me and geurilla right?
which leaves yuurei, invi, boris, nonny
yuurei and invi cant vote

so aliens win

but ofc we didnt know who he ignited so he could've fooled us by saying he ignited me and nonny

this exactly yeah

I should've said I ignited T-Bone n2 tbh

[Boris]

awwww I'll be your friend woo.

I still don't get why you'd care about the full town win, as scum Boris.

eh as the game stood, me+light had a 0% chance of winning

I was basically going to gambit having not submitted/primed T-Bone n2, and Rei n4. since I'd mechanically lost eh whatever may as well help as many people as possible.
this'd mean that for the win, we should force a no lynch (run to deadline) until n6, when I'd ignite Rei. d7 we powerlynch me for a full town win.

but i had actually primed 2 people so if everyone followed that entire plan I'd win!
the other alternative was for me to throw the plan down then vizzy+{Rei,you} agree to lynch one of team dark for the full town win

[Boris]

So... you ignite one person per night and then can light up multiples? o.0

exactly. but even nights only :/

[Boris]

@nonny viewtopic.php?f=24&t=76750
^ good read with respect to arsonist mechanic
skip to page 15 if you want spoilers/a laugh

[Boris]

To be honest in day 1 with that plan about pms I was starting to think that this game would be boring and we would catch scum easily.

BOY I WAS WRONG

IT WAS REALLY FUN AT THE END

Yeah real talk, thanks for letting me know about the game

And thanks for running it Ircher

And boris thanks for turning it into a maelstrom of wifom and gambits haha

anytime my dude, anytime.
do you know who I am btw?

[Boris]

the urge to surrender was strong!!!

[Boris]

Thanks for the mod Ircher.

seconded, tyvm ircher.


great work in general running quirky setups over marathon weekend. it's a great time to trial left-of-centre roles and mechanics, I think your games have been an absolute treat.

[Boris]

agreed.

it's even an interesting thought whether or not to use the breaking strategy--it does force scum to hard gambit if they want to win, which always makes for spicy reading.

[Boris]

If you're a tw alt then I shoulda known you'd want a scum game off your meta haha

I replaced in before the role pm's xD

[Boris]

Notice how one of em doesn't talk while the other's drinking

we don't?

[Boris]

yo rei cuz sign up to the worst's alpaca mafia