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Post Post #56 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:38 pm

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VOTE: rushing roulette
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Post Post #81 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:44 am

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Not a huge fan of noobs posting. I also kinda want to just nuke the 4-head monstronsity that is MMG.

Also, we should Lynch before 3:00 PM EDT today to make sure we have enough time for other days. (expired on 2018-07-05 14:59:46) to lynch.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:42 am

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Okay so I'm here properly. I agree with Ircher that we need to seriously consider vote consolidation, but not necessarily in 3 hours.

Almost Chara and MMG are town. Hydra lol is medicore and I expect more and better content from Mylo. I like noobs I think? Kneejerk reaction is that I still like a roulette vote but I don't know how Ircher feels about it.
In post 82, noobs wrote:
In post 81, Auscher wrote:Not a huge fan of noobs posting. I also kinda want to just nuke the 4-head monstronsity that is MMG.

Also, we should Lynch before 3:00 PM EDT today to make sure we have enough time for other days. (expired on 2018-07-05 14:59:46) to lynch.
I'm guessing this isn't Ircher

Also, lolno
That was Ircher actually.

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Post Post #100 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 96, rushing roulette wrote:
In post 81, Auscher wrote:Not a huge fan of noobs posting. I also kinda want to just nuke the 4-head monstronsity that is MMG.

Also, we should Lynch before 3:00 PM EDT today to make sure we have enough time for other days. (expired on 2018-07-05 14:59:46) to lynch.
Also this post is "let's lynch someone, and quickly" is quite scummy.
Can't you see why town could post that?
In post 87, Make Mafiascum Great wrote:reck's reads

- where is not mafia
- almost chara v obv town
- tree and birb kinda sus with their two posts so far
- auscher town
- aristaly actually maybe town here (weakest townlean)
- rushing roulette has one post so far & it's an empty vote so idfk what to do w/ that info
- hydra lol has posted contentless shitposts so far, bag it as scum
- noobs posting is like the mafia game equivalent of the meme man and i dont know what any of it means

VOTE: Hydra lol ty for playing and god bless america
^ I like this post.

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Post Post #105 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:46 am

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Okay, so there is 9p meaning 7 Town and 2 Scum (hopefully).

That means the game lasts a maximum of 4 days unless a no lynch or no kill happens.

Night phases are 3 hours long, so 3 * 3 = 9 Hours.

Marathon weekend lasts thru July 8, so from July 5 to July 8 is approximately 96 hours (4 days) to finish the game in.

96 - 9 = 87 hours (ideally) to use in the day. Eh, let's subtract another hour for downtime resolving night actions and lynches. That gives us 86 hours to work with in the day.

Then: 83 / 4 => 20.75 Hours.

Thus:

Day 1 can probably last until like 9:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2018-07-05 21:00:00). (That's a total of 21 hours for Day 1.)

Day 2 begins midnight July 6. Let's allocate 20 hours for Day 2 or until 8:00 PM EDT ((expired on 2018-07-06 20:00:00)).

We can go from there starting Day 3 based on flips and whatnot.

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Post Post #106 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:10 am

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1. by Noobs: "I'm guessing this isn't Ircher" (while quoting by Auscher) -->
What makes you think that?


2. by Noobs: "Actually nah my reasoning has holes nevermind" -->
Elaborate?


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Post Post #141 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:45 pm

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We're behind schedule! It's probably my fault tbh...... I was running a marathon....

VOTE: Noobs

The next person who posts that isn't already voting this without voting scumclaims.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:45 pm

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Oh, that was ~Ircher.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:47 pm

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In post 143, noobs wrote:Hydra lol pls

Ircher pls
They have 1 vote.

Obviously, you shouldn't self-vote, so that's not a scum claim.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:49 pm

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This was mostly my reads, but Ausuka agreed with them more or less.
Spoiler: Reads
Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Auscher (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence)

Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Aristaly (+10%) - Their posts seem okay, but there really isn't much to read them on.

Tree and Birb (+5%) - More or less the same comment as for Aristaly.

Hydra Lol (-5%) - Too much filler, not enough content.

Rushing Roulette (-15%) - Not really liking but probably kinda OMGUS (on my side) tbqh. (I did kinda get the numbers wrong, but we don't have forever to lynch, so it isn't
that
scummy.)

Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Almost Chara (+35%) - is good. They seem engaged, and their posts seem town in general.

Make Mafiascum Great (+33%) - I kinda like . Other than being a 4-headed monstrosity, I don't actually have any real issues with this slot.

Noobs (-38%) - There is a lot of things that I dislike about . First off, why are we lynching based off perceived skill levels? I also don't really get the aggression expressed against roulette for voting them (????). is just a strange thing to post, and I don't like the vote that comes later in . sounds like hydra dissonance--Did Regfan make and nancy make ? That is what is seems like... Eh, I might have that backwards... Overall, I don't really like this slot for town.

Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)
​​
Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this readslist
Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null an Neutral sections contain both townreads and scumreads and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a logarithmic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be greater than ther difference between 30% and 60%.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:51 pm

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What is your question? (THe first part or the second?)
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Post Post #156 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 152, Aristaly wrote:
In post 140, Make Mafiascum Great wrote:we need a fucking lynch TONIGHT if we want a chance at winning
Right!

I'll read up and vote before I go to bed then! :)
You better vote Noobs in your next post.....
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Post Post #157 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 155, noobs wrote:Richer, 46 was a fucking copy pasted posted, not a serious one. It's a meme, this has been said multiple times already.
Meh, I haven't been a huge fan of your slots posting all day.... But now I'm having my doubts.... But no time to really change. We can't get too far behind schedule. Sorry.....
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Post Post #161 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:02 pm

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You know what, screw it.
VOTE: Hydra Lol
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Post Post #162 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:03 pm

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I'm hammering though if they reach L-1.

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Post Post #167 (isolation #15) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:06 pm

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In post 12, Hydra lol wrote:/In!
In post 19, Hydra lol wrote:Buzz
VOTE: rushing roulette
In post 21, Hydra lol wrote:I don't think signing is required for us
In post 78, Hydra lol wrote:BUZZ
In post 79, Hydra lol wrote:BUZZ
In post 80, Hydra lol wrote:I must sleep but I can already tell this is going to be a fun game lol.
In post 90, Hydra lol wrote:screw you lastpass
In post 91, Hydra lol wrote:VOTE: noobs
they are currently giving me the baddest feel
In post 99, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 96, rushing roulette wrote:
In post 81, Auscher wrote:Not a huge fan of noobs posting. I also kinda want to just nuke the 4-head monstronsity that is MMG.

Also, we should Lynch before 3:00 PM EDT today to make sure we have enough time for other days. (expired on 2018-07-05 14:59:46) to lynch.
Also this post is "let's lynch someone, and quickly" is quite scummy.
not really
i can see town mindset behind it
In post 137, Hydra lol wrote:BUZZ
In post 138, Hydra lol wrote:IM GOING TO SLEEP
In post 139, Hydra lol wrote:BUZZ
In post 159, Hydra lol wrote:I like auscher so far
Also I am wake momentarily
In post 163, Hydra lol wrote:159 was that bad?
Out of 13 posts, only 3-4 of them are game relevant and barely so. That's the issue I have--you aren't really playing the game. 159 by itself really isn't that bad.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 166, Hydra lol wrote:I need to pester him to post more
Please do.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:08 pm

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We could also lynch Not_Mafia for doing nothing which is kinda consistent with their scum meta I think.....

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Post Post #172 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 170, Make Mafiascum Great wrote:Instead of shopping for a lynch, why don't you do something productive and vote for T+B?

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Case?
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Post Post #175 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:35 pm

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I am reading. My memory just likes to glaze over “Minor” details and long posts.
VOTE: Tree
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Post Post #188 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:02 pm

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Vote Tree if you’re Town
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Post Post #262 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:10 am

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8h
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Post Post #267 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:32 am

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In post 230, rushing roulette wrote:I think Auscher voting all the top wagons and rushing the lynch is the scummiest thing that happened so far

VOTE: Auscher
^ This is still a really bad and scummy attitude. It's not hard to understand our attitude towards lynches and other people have shared said belief, The concept of "rushing a lynch" makes no sense in a game like this- it's just common sense that we have to lynch quickly? This really doesn't feel like a genuine read. RR's only other content so far is a mediocre push on noobs that has seemed to fade away and linger in a weird way.

I feel that hydra lol has been really towny recently and that if RR does flip scum we probably win by lynching NM and Aristaly after them.

VOTE: rushing roulette

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Post Post #268 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:39 am

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in fact I think I'm willing to flat out say that all the scum are in {RR, NM, Aristaly}

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Post Post #284 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:01 pm

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Why would we turbo the end days THAT MATTER MOST? We aren’t abusing the mindset (ok, I *kinda* did D1), and it’s definitely not an attempt just jump on the top wagon. We have made our reads known, and we have been pushing them.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:04 pm

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Besides, my current deadline schedule gives us even coverage and flexibility. We ought to get a lynch within the next hour, but that doesn’t seem likely.

Aristaly, if you scumread Rushing to a great extent, why are you prioritizing a Hydra Lol Lynch, esp. when said lynch doesn’t seem to have a lot of support at the moment?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:50 pm

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In post 300, Aristaly wrote:
In post 282, rushing roulette wrote:We think that Aristaly is town
lmfao, this was less than 20 posts ago, wasn't it?

Love how this read was thrown out the window in light of this quote:
In post 285, Auscher wrote:Aristaly, if you scumread Rushing to a great extent, why are you prioritizing a Hydra Lol Lynch, esp. when said lynch doesn’t seem to have a lot of support at the moment?
Why should
Ari/I
not vote or want a lynch on
Hydra
? Why would
RR
be a better lynch if we scumread them both about equally?

Us prioritizing the
Hydra
lynch is no longer valid atm, but I feel odd that you have an issue here. Especially since it seemed you were strong with the
Hydra
lynch D1 .

So what made you change there?

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Post Post #305 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:55 pm

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How does Taly play as town anyway?

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Post Post #317 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 310, Aristaly wrote:Neither
Invisibility
or
Mylo
played in that game though?

~ Taly
Think they meant PYP 724, which Mylo was in but got vigged.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:59 am

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In post 270, Aristaly wrote:
In post 269, Not_Mafia wrote:So who's scum? I missed day 1
Supposedly you but I think that's the laziest read available.

I believe scum are within HydraLOL, Roulette, and Ausucher.
This is awful. Why is N_M town just because you feel it's "lazy" to scumread someone not playing the game?

anyway we should probably massclaim

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Post Post #332 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:59 am

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but you guys are gonna hate our claim lol
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Post Post #334 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:40 am

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We claim Fruit Vendor (who apparently chose bad targets).

We targeted Make Mafiascum Great N1 and Noobs N2.
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Post Post #335 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:41 am

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Post Post #358 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:22 pm

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Post Post #361 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:35 pm

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wtf?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #370 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:47 am

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honestly I feel confident that NM is town at this point and people should unvote him? literally everyone wants to lynch him.

Aristaly pushing us because our targets died and not looking at scum motivation is awful along with everything else the slot did d2.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:48 am

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if this was a solo slot I would honestly vote Arista but like Ircher wants to vote NM apparently and he can do whatever he wants to at this point
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Post Post #377 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:57 am

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that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia
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Post Post #386 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:58 am

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Ausuka hammered.

I think Ausuka unvoted because they wanted more time and felt much more confident on our other scumread, Aristaly whereas I guess Not_Mafia was just a Null read.

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Post Post #388 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:01 am

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We gave fruit to MMG and noobs because we townread them, simple sas that.

This last night, we gave fruit to Aristaly because I was 95% certain Aristaly wouldn’t be night killed. As scum, that obv. Isn’t gonna happen. On the other hand, Town!Aristaly is a good mislynch target in LyLo as our slot has expressed our scumread there multiple times.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:04 am

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In post 382, Aristaly wrote:Yeah, I did receive fruit

but I don't know if that makes them town, though.

With
RR's
flip, I feel like that makes everyone in the hood have the same role and likely alignment

Our hydra's whole role is centered on being in a neigborhood

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This is a really bad post.

How does being neighbors confirm anyone? Roulette simply flipped town neighbor, nothing special. In what way does that clear an entire neighborhood? Your whole line of reasoning here is just really bad and illogical, and it also gives you a good way to push a ML on our slot.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:06 am

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In post 389, Almost Chara wrote:I guess I should've said instead of us
or Hydra
, but it seems my preconception of your slot being the other Mafia is getting in the way.
Again, both Hydra lol and you had a much better chance to be nightkilled from my perspective than Aristaly and me. Scum have no reason to lie about receiving fruit, so it was more of a matter of actually confirming our role for once.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:12 am

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In post 383, Almost Chara wrote:Also, why did [insert scum name here] kill Hydra? They said they were EVEN Night Watcher, so had no action last night. I am strongly leaning Auscher is a SCUM Fruit Vendor. That way they can prove their role anyway.

I initially had a problem with them saying "you're going o hate our claim" but holding off until Hydra claimed first. I suspected that was to tailor their claim accordingly (as in: if they claimed Cop Auscher claims Miller), but then realized that's not the case because (a) claiming Miller would have got them lynched on the spot regardless, and (b) they claimed 2 minutes after Hydra did, so it was a short time for them to figure a suitable claim.

I also didn't like the "that works too" comment when they voted N_M. It sounded as if they had a plan then realized an alternative would still work.

Of course, I am being me, so I'll wait for Chara to come in and give their feedback. We don't have a hydra PT for this game, so I'm saying this here and they can show me why I'm being ridiculous in public for this once. :lol:
1) You really think fruit vendor that targeted the mod is the best claim we can come up with?
2) 2 minutes is not enough time to think up a good fakeclaim. In this case, I think this was a matter of simply having time to post. If it was thirty minutes or even fifteen, you have a point, but that isn’t the case.
3) “That works too” was Ausuka acknowledging the time limit and ensuring a lynch occurred. Like I said earlier, our primary scumread was not Not_Mafia because he was more nullread. The alternative here would’ve been lynch Aristaly first, but I explained to Ausuka in hydra PT that there was way more support for a Not_Mafia Lynch. Since I was for the lynch, and Ausuka wasn’t against it, “it works too” because we end up lynching the other scum first and can push Aristaly today.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:14 am

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In post 392, Almost Chara wrote:Also, it's interesting to note the first two claimed targets were the NKs, I suppose this wasn't the original plan and they intended to out there was a scum RB, but then saw they could end the game on D3 and changed their mind, then N_M got voted and they -once again- reverted to bussing for Town cred.

I better shut up and wait for Chara as I'm starting to sound exactly as I would in the Hydra PT.

But really, my main problem with Scum!Aristaly is I can't see either of them killing Hydra lol here. It would always be the Fruit Vendor, or -if they wanted to play that card- our slot to reassert the notion of identical role PMs. (I certainly would've gone for the Fruit Vendor if I was scum 100% of the time).
Why would scum kill the fruit vendor?

@Mod: Can scum kill and use an ability at the same time?
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Post Post #395 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:14 am

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Especially when we make a pretty good mislynch target at this point? You don’t kill off your mislynches.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 385, Aristaly wrote:I really don't get
Auscher's
thinking or vote progression at all.
In post 359, Aristaly wrote:The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly
In post 360, Aristaly wrote:We don't have time for WIFOM wth Hydra
In post 361, Auscher wrote:wtf?

UNVOTE:
What was so off about my posts that caused you to unvote?

I was asking
NM
and
Hydra's
thinking, and mechnically, town WILL lose if we do not endgame in some way today - so we needed a lynch.

You were the only person voting here
Auscher
, so even
if
you falsely assumed I'm scum about to L-1, what was the point?

Because if you believed
NM
was scum at the time, there wouldn't have been an automatic 2 votes onto them from the duo in your perspective.
In post 363, Hydra lol wrote:VOTE: NM
In post 366, Almost Chara wrote:VOTE: Not Mafia
In post 377, Auscher wrote:that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia
And then here... You only cared about being the hammer it seemed once
NM
and
Chara
put up their votes.

You literally hammered
NM
off the pretense of
"this lynch could work best!"


Where is you, again, saying this slot is
"awful"
, but you don't vote us???

But that completely contradicts your earlier unvote and sentiment of the game?

~ Taly
1) Ausuka unvoted because they wanted more time for discussion and didn’t want a hammer to immediately occur. It had nothing to do specifically with your posts or anyone else’s during that timeframe. Again, you are analyzing this in a way that suggests you are scum. The “wtf” should’ve been a huge clue that we had a reads mismatch because it was obviously directed as me as a “what are you doing rn” sort of thing.

2) I left the voting decision in Ausuka’s hands because they were the one whom unvoted. I really don’t find your interpretation of events to be really fair to us

3) The Not_Mafia Lynch “could work best” because it ensures scum get lynched without stalling out to deadline. Again, we both felt more strongly about Aristaly being scum (Ausuka to a greater degree), but pushing that read at the time would’ve basically resulted in the timer expiring. It definitely does not contradict sentiment previously expressed; it expresses the sentiment that we would prefer a different lynch but acknowledge that voting a shared read is better for Town. Scum is would be better served by waiting it out.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 253, Aristaly wrote:
In post 250, Hydra lol wrote:hi
i think noobs actually has a chance of being town here
scum is probably in {rushing, N_M, Almost}
VOTE: N_M
this slot needs the most pressure
If he's gonna post he's gonna post. This vote is the easiest throwaway shit you could have done!

Why Almost and Rushing, out of curiosity?
In post 260, Aristaly wrote:
In post 259, Hydra lol wrote:N_M has said nothing
AI
ftfy

Why vote for pressure at this point?
In post 270, Aristaly wrote:
In post 269, Not_Mafia wrote:So who's scum? I missed day 1
Supposedly you but I think that's the laziest read available.

I believe scum are within HydraLOL, Roulette, and Ausucher.
In post 283, Aristaly wrote:
In post 272, Hydra lol wrote:
In post 250, Hydra lol wrote:hi
i think noobs actually has a chance of being town here
scum is probably in {rushing, N_M, Almost}
VOTE: N_M
this slot needs the most pressure
Pretty much agree with this lol. Thanks Invis!
In post 273, Hydra lol wrote:Guys we're running out of time!!

Can we lynch rushing today?
So you have a pressure vote on a non-entity player and yet are worried about the lynch being secured? You're trying to push a panic lynch through without actually committing to it. You're so goddamned scummy! I can't even!

In post 282, rushing roulette wrote:Random didn't play again? >.<
We think that Aristaly is town, and Almost Chara could be scum. In fact we think that there is one scum among those two.
We also think that noobs is bad town rather than scum.

Still not liking Auscher. There is still >2 days to deadline and we should be turboing the last days rather than the first days, and I think you are trying to abuse this mindset to hop on the largest wagon.
Indeed, I have reason to believe there is scum within RR, Chara, and us. I believe it has a far greater chance of being RR. However, we can sort that later.

VOTE: HydraLol

This needs to die.
In post 315, Aristaly wrote:Oh, with that , I'm feeling much less confident in
Hydra
-scum, they could be town actually.

I don't think scum would reassess here

~ Taly

P-Edit

Hydra lol wrote:Mylo (Me :D) replaced into Pick Your Poison. And Mylo (:P) was in Splatoon mafia with you.
Oh! :D I forgot about that.

Also, I'm having fun this game. :) Actually, when I don't inject emotions, I have MORE fun. Not really stressful unless I make it be.

Plus, I'm still rethinking my reads as the game progresses right now, and I do reversals much more often as town.
In post 336, Aristaly wrote:I'm a
Town Neighbor
, I'm in a hood with
Chara, this hydra, and RR


The 3 of us suspected 1 scum in our hood, but with
RR's
flip being the exact same role as ours, I think
Almost Chara
is near conftown here.
Auscher wrote:We claim Fruit Vendor (who apparently chose bad targets).

We targeted Make Mafiascum Great N1 and Noobs N2.
lmao what a coincidence. :roll:

Why exactly did you give them fruit and what did you expect from it?

But yeah, I'm burnt out at the moment, but I'm confident with
Chara
hydra being town, so no paranoia there.
Hydra
is towny to me at the moment... I don't know about
NM
but
NM
is frustrating to read at best.

~ Taly
In post 357, Aristaly wrote:
In post 345, Almost Chara wrote:why does roulette's flip make you confident we're town, Taly?

NM does need to claim.

Auscher's targets are what they are, but unless they're just scum hoping the targets are too suspicious to actually be scummy, i'm not sure it really makes them scum. why claim fruit vendor at all if they can't prove it?
i guess they could have been concerned about a tracker who was keeping quiet.
Because
RR
had the exact same role as we did, and it makes sense to think that all the people in the hood are there because of their role

I'm not 100% on this, but it's a concrete reason for a townread based off claims and I don't know how
Auscher
is possibly town at this point.

~ Taly
In post 359, Aristaly wrote:The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly
In post 376, Aristaly wrote:
In post 370, Auscher wrote:honestly I feel confident that NM is town at this point and people should unvote him? literally everyone wants to lynch him.

Aristaly pushing us because our targets died and not looking at scum motivation is awful along with everything else the slot did d2.
Alright, well unless the team is N_M and I or N_M amd you, the two of us not voting here co firms us town. I'm not betting on that being true bit thats nice as it limits associative possibilities!

So N_M either is scum or is being voted by both scum.
The math works out! This makes me much more comfortable with this wagon.
Bad posts by the Aristaly slot.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:48 am

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In post 324, fur hydra wrote:
votecount 2.063 players voting rushing roulette (Hydra lol, Auscher, Aristaly)
2 players voting Aristaly (noobs, rushing roulette)

2 players not voting (Not_Mafia, Almost Chara)

with 7 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

mod notes: I for one can't remember the last time I felt any kind of warmth, sun-related or otherwise.


rushing roulette was lynched! they were a

Spoiler: rushing roulette's role
playername
town neighbor


you win when all mafia are eliminated.

[REDACTED] (is/are) your neighbor(s). you may privately communicate with them in this thread: [REDACTED]


night 2 has started and will end 3 hours after this post is made! if you've already submitted a contingency night action, you don't need to do anything else, but otherwise, send in night actions by then!
There’s nothing special about Roulette’s role. The fact you have “the exact same role” is not a surprise; in fact, it should be a *given* if the two of you are the same alignment BECAUSE GOOD MODERATORS DON’T MAKE IT WHERE TOWN CAN LEARN INFO BY COMPARING ROLE PMs. If that isn’t what you are talking about.... I don’t see how having a person with a plain neighbor role that matches yours tells you anything about the third person in the neighborhood.... Like again, explain how Rushing flipping with “your role” gives you any extra info (besides Rushing’s alignment ofc) about the neighborhood than without it. There’s nothing unusual about two vanilla neighbors in a setup; it’s something that happens a lot actually—vanilla neighbors that is.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:55 am

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In post 382, Aristaly wrote: With
RR's
flip, I feel like that makes everyone in the hood have the same role and likely alignment

Our hydra's whole role is centered on being in a neigborhood

~ Taly
ircher already said this I think but ^this is shit-tier. because one neighbour is town that makes the rest of the hood town? give me a break.

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Post Post #400 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:57 am

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In post 383, Almost Chara wrote:Also, why did [insert scum name here] kill Hydra? They said they were EVEN Night Watcher, so had no action last night. I am strongly leaning Auscher is a SCUM Fruit Vendor. That way they can prove their role anyway.

I initially had a problem with them saying "you're going o hate our claim" but holding off until Hydra claimed first. I suspected that was to tailor their claim accordingly (as in: if they claimed Cop Auscher claims Miller), but then realized that's not the case because (a) claiming Miller would have got them lynched on the spot regardless, and (b) they claimed 2 minutes after Hydra did, so it was a short time for them to figure a suitable claim.

I also didn't like the "that works too" comment when they voted N_M. It sounded as if they had a plan then realized an alternative would still work.

Of course, I am being me, so I'll wait for Chara to come in and give their feedback. We don't have a hydra PT for this game, so I'm saying this here and they can show me why I'm being ridiculous in public for this once. :lol:
Why would scum kill a fruit vendor? The action was useless.

The "that works too" comment makes no sense. If we're scum, and have a scumplan, why would we talk about it in the thread?
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Post Post #401 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:00 am

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In post 384, Aristaly wrote:Yeah,
Ari
seems just as confused as me x-x

The thing that makes the most sense right now, is that
Auscher
gave our hydra fruit to validate their claim and to cast more suspicion on our slot. Since scum-
Auscher
would be going against their NK-fruit give pattern by offing
Hydra
.

This theory makes sense provided that
Auscher
wanted an excuse not to explain the reasons behind their role actions further.

Auscher
, you still haven't answered why you gave fruit to
Noobs
or
MMG
and what you expected from it.

It's either this or Mafia Neigbors exist here.

~~~


I'm not sure of anything, and I'm not voting until I have clarity and am in sync with
Ari


But
Ausuka
, since you seemed to think
NM
was town, even though
Ircher
hammered for your slot, what do you think of them flipping scum?

~ Taly
OF COURSE WE WANT TO VALIDATE OUR CLAIM. That is not scum-indicative.

Ircher took the MMG action; I chose noobs because I tr'd them and I thought they were controversial and apathetic e.g fairly unlikely to get NK'd. Clearly I was incorrect. Didn't put much thought into it because fruit vendor is literally useless etc.

I hammered, yes. NM flipping scum obviously means scum bussed him. Not much else I can draw from it apart from the fact that you're still scum due to your HORRIBLE interaction with NM early d2.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 385, Aristaly wrote:I really don't get
Auscher's
thinking or vote progression at all.
In post 359, Aristaly wrote:The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly
In post 360, Aristaly wrote:We don't have time for WIFOM wth Hydra
In post 361, Auscher wrote:wtf?

UNVOTE:
What was so off about my posts that caused you to unvote?

I was asking
NM
and
Hydra's
thinking, and mechnically, town WILL lose if we do not endgame in some way today - so we needed a lynch.

You were the only person voting here
Auscher
, so even
if
you falsely assumed I'm scum about to L-1, what was the point?

Because if you believed
NM
was scum at the time, there wouldn't have been an automatic 2 votes onto them from the duo in your perspective.
In post 363, Hydra lol wrote:VOTE: NM
In post 366, Almost Chara wrote:VOTE: Not Mafia
In post 377, Auscher wrote:that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia
And then here... You only cared about being the hammer it seemed once
NM
and
Chara
put up their votes.

You literally hammered
NM
off the pretense of
"this lynch could work best!"


Where is you, again, saying this slot is
"awful"
, but you don't vote us???

But that completely contradicts your earlier unvote and sentiment of the game?

~ Taly
I unvoted because we hadn't talked about the NM vote at all and I was not yet comfortable with it + he wasn't my strongest scumread. Ircher thought NM was scum, I was undecided. Treating us like a single slot to push us is very questionable.

I hammered NM because I didn't believe that he could possibly be town after you failed to hammer him.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:03 am

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In post 392, Almost Chara wrote: But really, my main problem with Scum!Aristaly is I can't see either of them killing Hydra lol here. It would always be the Fruit Vendor, or -if they wanted to play that card- our slot to reassert the notion of identical role PMs. (I certainly would've gone for the Fruit Vendor if I was scum 100% of the time).
Again. Fruit vendors are useless and NAI roles.

Incidentally, so are neighbours.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #53) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 270, Aristaly wrote:
In post 269, Not_Mafia wrote:So who's scum? I missed day 1
Supposedly you but I think that's the laziest read available.

I believe scum are within HydraLOL, Roulette, and Ausucher.
^ This post was made while NM was still a godfather and it's absolutely awful.

VOTE: Aristaly

Take the win if you're scum Almost Chara.
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Post Post #405 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 270, Aristaly wrote:
In post 269, Not_Mafia wrote:So who's scum? I missed day 1
Supposedly you but I think that's the laziest read available.

I believe scum are within HydraLOL, Roulette, and Ausucher.
^ This post was made while NM was still a godfather and it's absolutely awful.

VOTE: Aristaly

Take the win if you're scum Almost Chara.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #55) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:09 am

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off the top of my head my case for Aristaly here is

1)- townreads NM while lynching him makes scum lose the game because, uhh, "it's the laziest read available." It's awful. Absolutely awful.

2)- Pushes us as scum because we fruit vended kill targets without bothering to analyze scum motivation.

3)- Treats us as a single slot to promote the idea we were inconsistent even though they know very well that we are a hydra.

4)- They push the hood as all-town because one of the neighbours flipped town in order to try and turn Almost Chara on us.

5)- noobs was voting them and they are the best players on this playerlist tbh.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #56) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:46 am

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Of course.

GG, well done almost chara, thanks for modding xy and tw.
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