Random Mafia Marathon [3/3] (Game Over!)

[Ircher]

The exact setup that will be run will be dependent on how many people we get and my personal whims. I'll close signups at :40.

15 minute day deadlines.
5 minute night deadlines.

1. Baezu
2. Something_Smart
3.

Firebringer

Ausuka

[Ircher]

And signups are closed. This setup is closed. Randing roles now.

[Ircher]

All roles are sent! Game begins when everyone confirms.

[Ircher]

Ausuka replaces Firebringer who has disappeared.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Not Voting (3) - Baezu, Something_Smart, Ausuka

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:05:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

Valid up to 6.

[Ircher]

Just a note, but no lynch is not an option.

[Ircher]

I will select a random player to be lynched if no votes have been cast by deadline.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Baezu (1) - Ausuka (19)
Not Voting (2) - Baezu, Something_Smart

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:05:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

Valid up to 21.

[Ircher]

This game is nightless, yes.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Not Voting (3) - Baezu, Something_Smart, Ausuka (22)

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:05:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

Valid up to 28.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Baezu (2) (LYNCH) - Something_Smart (31), Ausuka (36)
Not Voting (1) - Baezu

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:05:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

Valid up to 36.

[Ircher]

Baezu was lynched, but survived somehow. Baezu is aligned with the

town.

I have to do an errand real quick, so deadline is 5 minutes after I return.

[Ircher]

I'm back.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Ausuka (2) (LYNCH) - Something_Smart (45), Baezu (58)
Something_Smart (1) - Ausuka (49)
Not Voting (0) -

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:13:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

54 is an invalid vote target and was not counted.

Valid up to 58.

[Ircher]

Ausuka was lynched, but survived somehow. Ausuka is aligned with the

town.

(Side note: I just realized I made a pretty big error with the way I did the setup. Too late to fix now though.)

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Not Voting (3) - Something_Smart, Baezu, Ausuka

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:25:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

54 is an invalid vote target and was not counted.

Valid up to 65.

[Ircher]

VOTECOUNT:

Something_Smart (1) - Ausuka (67)
Baezu (1) - Something_Smart (73)
Not Voting (1) - Baezu

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch!

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-26 18:25:00).

Note: I'm not keeping up with prods or anything. Too much work; I expect players to be self-regulative in that respect.

54 is an invalid vote target and was not counted.

Valid up to 73.

[Ircher]

Should I find a replacement?

[Ircher]

No need for a VC, it's pretty obvious.

Something_Smart,

Mafia Vengeful

, was lynched day 3!

Please stand by for the vengekill result....

[Ircher]

Ausuka,

Town 1-Shot Lynchproof Flagbearer

, was vengekilled N3.

As a result.....

Baezu,

Town 1-Shot Lynchproof

, was endgamed N3.

Congratulations to Something_Smart who won!

[Ircher]

The setup error was making both townies 1-shot lynchproof rather than Day 1 lynchproof.

Originally, I was gonna do 2x 1-shot lproof townie versus 1x mafia goon (good thing I didn't as that would be broken), but that had a high town EV (67% by my calculations although it's actually 100% for obvious reasons).

So to even up the EV a bit (I didn't do the math here), I gave town a flagbearer and mafia a vengeful shot.

[Ircher]

gg I guess sorry for throwing.

I don't comprehend this setup though. Why does SS get a vengekill? Didn't town wincon already resolve before then?

Balance reasons.

[Ircher]

Oh, I figured y'all would assume standard win conditions unless otherwise specified. You could've won ordinarily by reaching parity @Something_Smart.

[Ircher]

Lol. Setup was cute but Baezu should have been Informed about the flagbearer situation so she couldn't slip like she did.

I mean, Ausuka right off the bat claimed it, so I don't think things really would've changed here. But you do raise a good point.

[Ircher]

I get why you made him vengeful but like before he made the kill didn't the town achieve their wincon as only townies remained alive? I don't get why the vengekill resolves first?

W/e though not like it really matters. well done SS.

I guess moderator ruling applies here?

It's kinda the reverse of vengeful mafia where even if town is lynched such that mafia achieve parity, the vengekill from town takes precedences.

[Ircher]

SOrry for the lack of clarity about what win conditions were. I didn't bother writing them up (even though I knew mentally what they were), but it seems like I should've taken the time to do that.

[Ircher]

Oh man, I thought the game was over when Ausuka claimed she was scum

It's fine, but it's generally a good idea to wait for the moderator flip just in case. People may twilight troll you.

[Ircher]

day 1:
2/3 chance lynch town
1/3 chance lynch mafia

If lynch mafia:
1/2 chance of not killing flagbearer --> Town EV => 1/3 * 1/2 = 1/6

Else:

day 2 (ideally if I didn't design the setup improperly):
1/2 chance lynch town
1/2 chance lynch mafia

If lynch town, town loses.
If lynch mafia:
1/2 chance of not killing flagbearer --> Town EV => 2/3 * 1/2 * 1/2 = 2/12 = 1/6

Town EV = 1/6 + 1/6 => 33%
Mafia EV = 1/3 * 1/2 + 2/3 * 1/2 + 2/3 * 1/2 * 1/2 => 67%

[Ircher]

So it looks like if I were to have gotten the setup done correctly, the EV shifts the other way with the vengekill and flagbearer. Oh well.... With how the setup actually turned out, it may actually be 50% EV since town basically never gets lynched, so mafia is really banking on that vengekill. So maybe the setup error isn't as much of an error after all.

[Ircher]

Actually, I think the setup would be balanced at 50% EV (the way I intended it to be) with:

Town D1 Lynchproof

Town D1 Lynchproof Flagbearer

Mafia D1 Vengeful

[Ircher]

Yeah, I kinda want the setup variant I posted in 105 to be like an official 3p open setup. I think it would be fun to have something besides Supersaint 3 and The One I Cannot Kill as possible 3p marathon open setups.

Edit: Also, that's exactly what happened. The flagbearer claimed early and the other townie claimed vanilla lynchproof, so yeah.