Predict the kill (7/7)

[Rainn]

/in

[Rainn]

Is this not fun?

Was really hoping to test this out, but I'm willing to mod a different setup if this isn't fun.

i think it is a different concept that can drive people off yes but the main reason might be that people are kind burned out of marathon games

it's always like this in the last days

[Rainn]

pretty sure we need to run the 7p version though

[Rainn]

Is that a Yuuki Konno avatar? That's wassup.

ikr

best gurl

[Rainn]

any works for me

[Rainn]

Hi

i rolled town so there's two ways to go about the setup optimally i think:

trying to win by points by some luck/town choice

or

preventing completely nightkills on certain players.

[Rainn]

So optimal strategy is we each pick and claim someone to guess. And none of us pick the same one. At least, that's what I have for optimal strategy.

no that's a pretty bad idea

we get at maximum 2 points ever like this.

scum can give town points to fake it.

we only have 2 guesses.

[Rainn]

We can either agree that we'll randomly choose to guess in a restrict pool of strong town reads to save them or maybe win the game

or

We can organize us in different groups of 3/3 and have 3 guesses pilled on two people what makes them virtually unkillable without outing the scum?

[Rainn]

alternatively we could simply guess randomly but that's kind of meh and scum sided/too luck based

[Rainn]

So optimal strategy is we each pick and claim someone to guess. And none of us pick the same one. At least, that's what I have for optimal strategy.

Seems like a sure way to lose.

I agree. It spreads the points out too much.

Fair enough. Anyone have a better strategy then?

We can either agree that we'll randomly choose to guess in a restrict pool of strong town reads to save them or maybe win the game

or

We can organize us in different groups of 3/3 and have 3 guesses pilled on two people what makes them virtually unkillable without outing the scum?

[Rainn]

WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE VOTING ME

[Rainn]

I would be voting mjl but first the strategy

i'm there in spirit

[Rainn]

Rainn, any reads so far?

mjl >rand scum

[Rainn]

Maybe marathon is too quick to make a decent pool of people and make everyone agree tbh

[Rainn]

WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE VOTING ME

I'm getting a slight town read on you but...

I like you

VOTE: mjl

we are guessing random in that case...?

wasted some minutes of my life there...

[Rainn]

i don't think pyt is scum.

[Rainn]

I guess it's rainn?

wtf

i was the second to get behind mjl wagon

and you don't count because your vote was rvs

[Rainn]

question here really is why scum kills ircher.

they are completely trying to avoid giving town points but that was too much.

[Rainn]

my vote wasn't rvs. It was serious and I stayed behind it. I question how serious and vote can be in general sense given the amount of content but~.

when you voted mjl she only had posted "hi"

i'm thinking it's chamber.

[Rainn]

no it's prob chamber i think

VOTE: chamber

[Rainn]

pyt sheep me if you have no reads?

[Rainn]

Yeah

for a second i considered alch hard bussing but i had the same "click' when mary wagoned me so i'm fine with the slot rn

prob chamber

[Rainn]

No

pretty sure that ircher kill is to avoid giving town points.

[Rainn]

scum only has 1 one of them rn

they need to avoid giving town points MAX level.

[Rainn]

giving town points = making "ics" for town basically in thsi gamestate

it's not a ic, scum can give town points.

but they would like to avoid yeah

don't treat as ic though

[Rainn]

Okapoka.

They could have made more reasonable kills i think.

they only killed ircher out of NECESSITY

i think pyt would likely not kill ircher but someone a bit more town read

[Rainn]

We aren't treating someone guessing correctly as ic.

at least not now that you outed it.

[Rainn]

PYT, YOU'RE GOING TO DIE

VOTE CHAMBER

[Rainn]

oh wait

there's 10 minutes

[Rainn]

What is the necessity in me killing icher?

avoiding giving town points

it's obvious and the fact you try to walk around it it's scummy

[Rainn]

We aren't treating someone guessing correctly as ic.

at least not now that you outed it.

(what does IC mean?)

innocent child = definitely town

[Rainn]

trolly...?

as scum?

no.

[Rainn]

??

you paraphrased: "There are better kills they could have made to avoid giving town points, they Killed ircher because they -had- to"
me : "why would I do that"
you "to avoid points"

What i mean is:

if they wanted to risk, they could have made other better kills

they did ircher, because they are absolutely careful

and it's unlikely a kill from pyt btw

and it makes a lot of sense from you imo

i think it's either you or oka.

[Rainn]

Oka/Chamber i think

[Rainn]

If i was scum btw i would go for pyt because he is easy to lynch rn

[Rainn]

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i dont know if town rainn tries to pull this tunnel

wtf

i tunneled sky for 3 days straight as town

no.

[Rainn]

What makes you think I kill super carefully?

your personality fits the criteria more or less i think

i'm beginning to think it's oka tbh

[Rainn]

VOTE: oka

chamber it's not but you're prob scum

[Rainn]

i didn't know it was hammer but ok

[Rainn]

uhhhh

ok

[Rainn]

pyt, who you guessed?

[Rainn]

my reads this game suck btw

[Rainn]

anyone there???

[Rainn]

oh

i think it was alch and he gave town 1 point to try to conftown himself

i guessed you pyt

[Rainn]

i'm kind of fine with ending this

VOTE: alch

if it's you congratulations pyt

[Rainn]

i think alch killed ircher to make it look like "alch was pushing ircher so he doesn't make that kill btw"

i just thought that oka and chamber were being scummier

[Rainn]

Why are you voting for alch? I'm trying to understand I'm so lost

ok, you're ~prob~ town

look:

scum is confirmed to be either me or alch.

you need to choose one of us that you think it's scum and vote.

[Rainn]

uhhhh

surprised

[Rainn]

why you made those nightkills though pyt?

i'm curious

[Rainn]

i confirmed you as town when you gave town a point and didn't claim it in thread

i was like ???? no way you do that as scum

guess i was wrong

[Rainn]

How fun was the game?

it was pretty neat

it would be more novel in a normal game though because strategies would work better there

[Rainn]

>lynch wolf d1
> locktown one single person
> lynch/kill everyone else
>????
>lose the game

i was bad here

[Rainn]

i confirmed you as town when you gave town a point and didn't claim it in thread

i was like ???? no way you do that as scum

guess i was wrong

To answer your question, I was going with what I think you originally thought of. I can't remember the exact post but you said it didn't sound like something that I'd do, but moreso someone else. Unless that wasn't you.

the kills yeah, i didn't think you would kill ircher here

but why would you give town a point and not say you had guessed chamber for town credit?

i thought you were 100% town for that

[Rainn]

>lynch wolf d1
> locktown one single person
> lynch/kill everyone else
>????
>lose the game

i was bad here

I mean you were obvTown and if the kills didn't point towards you and I wasn't seriously questioning my own reads I probably would have gone pyt in lylo.

I just don't know why you didn't consider if I would give Town a point and not try to confirm myself? I was the one candidly talking about my guess D2 lol.

because when you claimed "i didn't guess chamber"

i had already explained that you would have try to guess it

so as scum i felt like you would say "no, i didn't do that"

[Rainn]

Did that seriously not post

it's punishing you for a perfect scum win

[Rainn]

i think it was fine and pyt just made the more optimal kills to avoid giving us points.

i mean, if ircher hadn't been killed, we would have lynched him.

if chamber hadn't been killed, i would have lynched him.

everytime pyt killed those, his mislynching options decreased. and that's what this game is about:

making a predictable kill and giving town points, or killing lynchbaites and making day play harder.

[Rainn]

if we followed my strategy, we'd average 1 pt a night... or know someone was lying/scum.

we wouldn't.

scum can give town one point so if they had to kill whoever they said they would lynch, they would simply give town a point for it.

the unique way it's optimal to do that, is if scum gets killed early i'm pretty sure (what happened)

in that case we might have won the game yeah

[Rainn]

**if they had to kill whoever they said they would guess i meant, not lynch