Marathon 4 (Semi-Open 2: Oopsy Daisy!)

[VitaminR]

/in.

[VitaminR]

Primate! Cool.

Come on, people, sign up! It's Marathon Day.

[VitaminR]

Yep.

[VitaminR]

I hope not.

[VitaminR]

As in: I hope it is not too late for MBL to sneak in.

[VitaminR]

Atticus!

[VitaminR]

Too slow.

[VitaminR]

Vote: Jack

Because it sounds snappy.

[VitaminR]

Unvote: Jack,
Vote: PJ

[VitaminR]

PJ is scum, people.

[VitaminR]

That was not a vote for PJ.

[VitaminR]

It's PJ and alko.

[VitaminR]

Vote:VitaminR

Why did you switch?

I think PJ is scum?

Yeah, let's pre-empt a discussion here and say "gut."

[VitaminR]

dang! one power role down

vote: AlKo

inventor is not in this game

he's not voting PJ. He's scum.


Plus he's voting a claimed power role. Obv scum tactic.

Didn't he hear that MeMe promised me an uber power role?

You're not voting PJ either.

[VitaminR]

MBL
PJ
myself
Vitamin


I think scum is in these four. Just need to narrow it down.

I'm glad you kept yourself on the list, because you're scum.

(I'm not actually that sure about alko.)

[VitaminR]

That was probably a joke, with the amount of experience he's got.

Oh, the irony.

[VitaminR]

MeMe, if we approach a deadline, what's the deadline lynch rule?

You're asking way too many questions. You

are

scum.

It's alko and PJ, people.

[VitaminR]

Of course it's a joke. That's avoidance, PJ.

[VitaminR]

If you guys won't lynch PJ, at least go after alko for not playing the game.

[VitaminR]

Good.

[VitaminR]

Of course it's a joke. That's avoidance, PJ.

Avoidance of what?[/;quote]
Avoidance of the game by going into a joke.

I can't tell if you're trying to imply a guilty investigation on me at this point, because that strikes me as a particularly dumb thing to do as scum.

I have no guilty investigation. I would have said so. Not trying to mislead the town here.

This makes me more prone to think you decided to randomly push on me, however, and I'm not very impressed with it. I suggest changing tacks.

It's not random, PJ. If it were random, then I wouldn't go this far. That would just be unnecessarily harsh towards you.

[VitaminR]

Can we edit to fix quote tags?

The mistake bugs me.

[VitaminR]

There are too many options regarding SK, perhaps we should hold off more speculation until tomorrow.

Do you think?

[VitaminR]

Not too enthralled with claiming, but I will if I have to.

Vote: Jack

, do you have any comments to make on the game?

Yes. I would comment that I'm sleepy and my wireless keeps dropping out and I'm assuming Vitamin has a guilty result even if he says he doesn't.

That is stupid.

He's not scum, though.

[VitaminR]

DEFECATION.

[VitaminR]

Righto.

[VitaminR]

myself + PJ is also a distinct possibility.

[VitaminR]

Don't you think which one of the two it is is kinda important, myself?

[VitaminR]

No, I just spout words randomly out of my mouth at times like this.

Hey, me too!

IMO most likely no SK is present.

Agreed.

[VitaminR]

VitaminR is definitely getting on my nerves at this point. Saying the same thing over and over is a great way to not participate.

Sorry, PJ.

I think you're scum for the following reasons:

1) I can see you killing Primate.
2) Your random vote was set-up pre-game. Makes it absolutely useless.
3) Going after myself.

[VitaminR]

Unvote: PJ,
Vote: myself

[VitaminR]

3) Nah, and I didn't say that. Don't get why you're implying that.
2) Random votes should create pressure by moving to something serious, however small, quickly.
1) That bit is mostly gut.

Being all sarcastic-quotation marky isn't helpful, PJ.

[VitaminR]

I still much prefer a PJ lynch here.

[VitaminR]

Unvote,Vote:VitamenR

He is trying the "scum wouldn't act this way" ploy.

I wish. I can never pull this off convincingly when I'm scum.

[VitaminR]

I still much prefer a PJ lynch here.

But you're voting myself?

Yes, because I get the feeling PJ is bussing myself. Mostly a response to MBL's post last page.

Also, not sure if people are willing to follow me on PJ.

[VitaminR]

I still much prefer a PJ lynch here.

You said pj was suspicious for voting m-self and now you are voting m-self.

Nah, the way he did it felt like bussing.

[VitaminR]

1) No and no. It is silly, but it was enough to start on.
2) I know random votes are rarely serious, but they can still be useful or not so useful.
3) It did, but I didn't buy your vehemence.

[VitaminR]

1) I think you would have thought Primate to be the most dangerous player. Or perhaps MBL, but I don't see you night-killing him.

3) This hits on an important point. Your random vote was useless, yet you somehow progress to near certainty on your next vote. Not rhyming for me.

[VitaminR]

MeMe, I'm voting myself.

[VitaminR]

MBL:

Heh, it's a lot of fun from my end too, although I think you're confusing me with someone. We haven't played together that much, have we?

[VitaminR]

3) Fairly convenient time to say you were faking certainty there. Myself has pretty been pushed to a claim.

[VitaminR]

Jack, MBL and alko are pro-town.

[VitaminR]

Someone hammer myself.

[VitaminR]

Alko is definitely town.

Atticus + PJ or myself + PJ.

[VitaminR]

I feel that myself hasn't given much coherent input at all. I bucn of gibberish about connections that I do not see. I'm not sure how I feel about a hammer, but I don't think we'll get much info out of him anyways...

Terrible argument.

PJ, I'm not buying it.

[VitaminR]

Tempted to switch to Atticus with these last few posts...

[VitaminR]

Argument? That was more of a, "Well, he could be scum, and I don't see him being useful townie. I don't mind him dying."

That's an awful reason.

[VitaminR]

The "he's a useless townie"-reason is scummy. Also don't like the "you're grasping at straws"-comment.

[VitaminR]

PJ, I used those terms fairly freely to attempt to describe the feeling your posts gave me.

I don't like your certainty where myself is concerned, I don't like the "fake certainty"+"ooh, things are going too fast!" play, and I don't like the random vote.

[VitaminR]

Well, the worst part about this is I don't really think VitR is scum at the moment - I think chose to randomly push on me since the beginning of the game to see what would happen, and although I am finding it insanely frustrating, it is not all too likely a strategy scum would use (especially against somebody like

me

).

Sorry, PJ!

It's really not random. Perhaps my gut is random, but I'm not trying to make this game unpleasant for you.

[VitaminR]

Grasping at straws though? That's like my best friend. He's trying to convince us that he's a town willing to die because I'm scum and I'll b killed tomorrow. When he said a post before that the two scuma re probably PJ and VitR.

The validity of his suspicions are just undermined by changing his mind. It's OMGUSy and useless.

Which is why I think scum is less likely to do it.

[VitaminR]

Bleh,

unvote: myself

.

Vote: Atticus

[VitaminR]

Jack, why do you vote Vitamin?

It's because Jack just likes me.

[VitaminR]

It's right up there, alko.

[VitaminR]

Jack, why do you vote Vitamin?

It's because Jack just likes me.

creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy.

I know! Fortunately, his avatar is sexy.

[VitaminR]

I'm really liking an Atticus lynch here.

[VitaminR]

Must I say it again, Vita?

But the goatee! The smooth, bald head...

[VitaminR]

sigh two vanilla claims makes it even more likely ill be ganked tonight. knock it off vanillas!

These comments are starting to make me uneasy.

[VitaminR]

But, seriously, Atticus is scum.

[VitaminR]

The premature claim, the myself wagon, his friendly attitude towards me.

I like the guy, but he's scum.

[VitaminR]

Atticus, that is.

[VitaminR]

Er.. what?

I don't have a moustache either.

[VitaminR]

Things will happen in the night too, though.

[VitaminR]

We need to hear from Jack.

[VitaminR]

And we need votes on Atticus.

[VitaminR]

As tired as I am.
As much as myself is scum.
I'm going to get him.

Reads fairly resigned to me.

MBL is really rubbing me the wrong way lately.

"I don't think anyone is scum" is pretty awful.

[VitaminR]

MBL still seems somewhat stand-offish. I would honestly expect him to be more confrontational - he seems to be more of an observer commenting on the game than a player for some reason.

I agree with this. I don't like his play.

[VitaminR]

Ha, I knew PJ was scum!

I should have gone with my first gut feeling.

It's MBL or myself.

[VitaminR]

vote: Atticus

This lynch brought to you by Vitamin R. Good luck.

This is terrible, btw.

[VitaminR]

I know.

[VitaminR]

Who vigged?

[VitaminR]

And VitR, I only did that cause if I didn't, PJ would have killed me instead of alko last night. I was strongly feeling a death coming on.

Besides, you did push Atticus first and appeared to find him scummy to the end. You should be as happy taking credit for his lynch as I suppose I am.

I take full responsibility for the lynch.

I was pretty sure he was scum, especially after the Townie claim. I found it unlikely there were that many Townies

[VitaminR]

I'd be happiest with an MBL lynch and a vig-hit on myself, but I'm guessing Jack won't want that.

[VitaminR]

I don't think Jack is SK.

[VitaminR]

Myself is still fairly scummy, although on a second read, I suppose I could see him as a townsperson who thinks he's onto something but thinks he's being constantly ignored. I still think he is better than a random lynch, and more likely to be scum than the average player, however. He is striking me as overly OMGUSy, though: he doesn't really talk about the people who aren't happening to be voting for him or expressing a negative view on him.

MBL is striking me as the guy sitting on a couch stroking his mustache until he has something to say. I honestly don't have much of a read on him yet, I would probably have to isolate his posts.

I think it's myself. It seems unlikely PJ would have to re-read on his scumbuddy.

Also, pressuring myself early and switching to MBL late is what I'd expect from scum who were in the spotlight early on (assuming PJ + myself).

[VitaminR]

It's lylo, shouldn't we be claiming or something?

I think so, but I think everyone else is a Townie.

[VitaminR]

I thought you vigged...

[VitaminR]

I think a vig would claim too. I'm not sure at this point.

We have an SK and scum.

The problem with a crosskill is that I think it's unlikely to happen with this many people.

[VitaminR]

VitR, why do you want to lynch me, cause you think I'm PJ's scumpartner or cause you think I may be an SK?

Both are possible.

[VitaminR]

Wait... myself wouldn't nightkill PJ, I think.

myself = Mafia
MBL = SK

[VitaminR]

mbl, claim please. Let's all claim.

Townie, obviously.

[VitaminR]

Lynch me, please.

[VitaminR]

That was based on the thought that a crosskill would be made possible with a Townie lynch.

Didn't see MBL's post.

[VitaminR]

In fact, lynch me.

MBL is SK. If he was vig, he would have claimed earlier. Lynching him gives the win to the mafia, though.

[VitaminR]

Vote: VitaminR

[VitaminR]

Seriously, lynching a Townie is our best shot.

[VitaminR]

If we No-Lynch, we have a much bigger risk of not getting the crosskill.

[VitaminR]

The only advantage No-Lynch gives us is the chance that both scum will target the same person. In that case, however, we have two scum and a townie left and we lose.

[VitaminR]

Argh... I guess you could be a vig.

[VitaminR]

No-Lynch is stupid, btw.

If MBL is SK, it gives us no advantage.

If MBL is vig, he's dead and we're counting on him to get it right. If we're going to do that, we might as well help him by lynching.

[VitaminR]

Jack - did the whole "I think VitR" has a guilty result. Did keep pushing PJ. Came up with a distancing theory between PJ and me.
MBL - no real clear connections with PJ.
myself - kept saying PJ was scummy, but listed him below me and Atticus consistently.

Actually,

Unvote: VitaminR,
Vote: Jack

[VitaminR]

Jack, I've explained why No-Lynch is dumb.

[VitaminR]

myself, just vote Jack.

[VitaminR]

It's only dumb numerically. But in this game we can figure out who the scum are.

LOL

[VitaminR]

Okay. I think it's Jack + myself. The guy pushing the inventor agenda goes first.

Unvote: Jack, Vote: myself

, and

FoS: Jack

.

Typical scum move. Voting townie and FOSing partner.

[VitaminR]

so

vote: vitr

jack is the other scum because he wants NL and claims that vitr is scum
but vitr if he is scum cant win if he gets lynched

What's the logic here?

If I were scum, I would want myself lynched so that I lose?

Also, you admit Jack is scum because he wants NL. Then vote him. If we're both scum, it doesn't matter and he's a safer bet.

[VitaminR]

Jack, I've explained why No-Lynch is dumb.

I see you've abandoned your "lynch VitaminR" plan though lol.

That is the best plan if we have two scum.

No-Lynch is stupid in every instance.

[VitaminR]

Unvote: Jack,
Vote: VitaminR

I have confidence MBL will vig Jack.

[VitaminR]

I agree MBL and I think myself does too.

He just thinks you're the SK and, in that case, this is safe.

[VitaminR]

It would, but in the last case, lynching you would be better.

And I believe MBL is a vig.

[VitaminR]

Let's lynch Jack and I'll vig vitR. do both of you agree myself looks less scummy than the other guy now and should be left alive?

Let's do the other way around. The result should be same.

[VitaminR]

MBL's reluctance to do this is making me doubt that he is a vig.

[VitaminR]

MBL, if you're the vig, it shouldn't matter to you whether or not we lynch Jack or me.

[VitaminR]

Alright. The fact that I just nodded off and almost fell out of my chair has convinced me to set a deadline.

You have 30 minutes -- deadline's at

5:18 a.m. EST

.

Thanks for staying up and modding this, MeMe! You rock.

MBL, vote me.

[VitaminR]

Argh...

[VitaminR]

Jack is scum. This is just safe.

[VitaminR]

MBL, there's no incentive for me to vote Jack. It's just a risk.

If the deadline rolls around, you'll just vig Jack anyway.

[VitaminR]

Heh.

[VitaminR]

Good point, MBL.

My vote stays.

[VitaminR]

I think we can go to Night.

[VitaminR]

It's vig Jack.

[VitaminR]

Confirm Vote: VitaminR

Thought I'd indicated as much.

[VitaminR]

lol Jack did you just claim scum? that's awesome. not sure what you're hinting at there, you might want to be clearer.

He did, but that doesn't change a thing.

We all know it's Jack.

[VitaminR]

Nope, go to night without a lynch.

MeMe's deadline rules are no majority = no lynch.

[VitaminR]

I hope MeMe hasn't fallen asleep.

[VitaminR]

Unvote: VitaminR,
Vote: No Lynch

[VitaminR]

ok MBL HAS to vote vitr or town can lose

We'll still win.

[VitaminR]

I wish, myself, I wish...

[VitaminR]

Wow... beautiful.

[VitaminR]

Thanks MeMe, sorry Atticus and great play myself.

[VitaminR]

Yep, I'm not at all bitter about losing this game. I had a lot of fun.