ITT we fawn over pretty girls

[Adel]

Really, when did this whole strange idea come about that "giving a female a compliment about her looks", somehow equals "you're a desperate, pathetic stalker"?

I think it came from jealousy that some other male geek has enough self-confidence to give a female a sincere compliment.

Specifically, I think it started when ABR (who is yummy looking, IMHO) was flirting with Brandi. Prior to that I think the only person who was called a stalker was MoS.

[Adel]

No one said I was pretty when I posted a pic.

You were pretty, it's just that superficial people were put off by your bikini top not covering all of your chest hair.

Adel told me privately how adorable she finds you. You know how she feels about hermaphrodites.

I have a thing for hobbits

[Adel]

If you are a girl, and don't realize, girls with daddy issues are eager to please

Ahahhahahaha. That a gross over generalization. My wife has daddy issues and she's not eager to please. And are you kidding me, who exactly is Coulter eager to please?

post-op transsexuals generally have a different set of power dynamic kinks than hetero women.

[Adel]

I have a collection of republican balls. (I intended the plural to indicate the general, not your wife)

edit: it turns out that "indented" is not the same as "intended".

[Adel]

"I wouldn't do you"

is more demeaning than

"I'd do you"(?)


discuss

Listening to Bill O'Reilly read the sex scenes from his crap novel

is more demeaning than

Reading about what Bill-O told his employee about his real life sexual experiences and fantasies

discuss

[Adel]

ITT we learn straight chics want to get nasty with Liv Tyler.

too skinny.



She would be much nicer to touch and hold and such.

Also, she is far more beautiful.

[Adel]

er, I just posted a picture of a woman I think is really yummy.

[Adel]

Can we have a thread to fawn over beautiful men?

You just accidentally touched on a pet peeve of mine: women acting as retarded as men is the wrong way to work towards gender equality.

Women are beautiful, and should be fawned over.

I think it would be healthy for all of the guys to abandon this thread and start a thread that celebrates male beauty.

[Adel]

Meh, I was just wondering what type of men people on here found attractive. =P

in that case:


Ving Rhames. His voice, his size, and how fully developed both the masculine and feminine aspects of his personality seem to be.

He also does shit like

Rhames won a Golden Globe in 1998 for best actor in a TV miniseries for his performance in HBO's Don King: Only in America. At the ceremony Rhames gave his award to fellow nominee Jack Lemmon, saying "I feel that being an artist is about giving, and I'd like to give this to you." Lemmon was clearly touched by the gesture as was the celebrity audience who gave Lemmon a standing ovation. Lemmon, who tried unsuccessfully to give the award back to Rhames said it was "...one of the sweetest moments I've ever known in my life."

Dreamy.

I think everyone should watch him in Holiday Heart

[Adel]

also, those of us that don't sleep with alpacas are guilty of species bias.

[Adel]

What do you call it when you absolutely despise the country you're in, but love all others? I got that.

untraveled

I was the same way until I actually spend two and a half years traveling from country to country and not stepping foot in the States.

I didn't love the US until I left the US.

[Adel]

[Adel]

fixed.

[Adel]

if you are going to objectify feminine beauty like this:

you might as well post an object of feminine beauty.

[Adel]

I forgot that you are younger than most here. Try reading http://www.rtvf.unt.edu/html/craig/pdfs/beauty.PDF
for some context necessary to understand what I was attempting to communicate.

The images you posted (within the context of this thread) are a perfect example of the objectification of the female form. What makes those anonymous women "pretty girls" ? -- curves and mammary glands. Those images (ads for Speedo swimware) are devoid of personality -- those images portray Women as Objects.

.. there is nothing inherently wrong with enjoying the female form as an object of beauty, but I think the idealized female forms crafted by classical sculptors do it better than modern advertisements.

[Adel]

greek sculptures of women show belly fat.

there is a good chance that these women are so physically active that they do not menstruate.
I do not think it is beautiful when a women tricks her body into thinking that her survival is so questionable that pregnancy would likely result in her death.

[Adel]

Eh, Adel has a point, but a counterpoint can be made from the feminist angle as well. The swimmers don't have bodies that are typically touted in the media as ideal. (Broader shoulders, smaller breasts, less of an hourglass or waifish figure than what the media would prescribe.) So is it really objectification or a counter point?

on the other hand I don't object to speedo ads because they are realistic in the sense that their brand is for hard-core swimmers (and those that want to be) -- and being a hardcore swimmer is the only realistic way for the vast majority of women to ever have that kind of body.

[Adel]

there is a good chance that these women are so physically active that they do not menstruate.
I do not think it is beautiful when a women tricks her body into thinking that her survival is so questionable that pregnancy would likely result in her death.

Why is this a bad thing?

is this a sincere question?

[Adel]

Really, Adel, what are you trying to accomplish bringing cask-strength feminism to a thread about pretty girls?

I thought that paper would make for a good introduction to those ideas for him. I doubt that he gets it in school, and I know that he doesn't get it from Daddy Culture. Those are ideas that I hold in high esteem, and look at the thread title: it is begging for the inclusion of feminism.

[Adel]

I like the myth of the Garden of Eden as a guide for what "the good life" resembles: warm, full of food on the vine, and no threat of violence. The kind of physical stress (which will always lead to injury) necessary for that kind of shape, and psychological stress necessary for the motivation for that kind of physical condition just do not seem healthy to me.

When your body shuts down a function as biologically important as the ability to reproduce, that has got to be a warning sign that you are doing something wrong.

When I was on active duty I used to run and run and run. I got shin splints, and did not stop. I got stress fractures, and did not stop for months. "I love to run, I love the pain" was my mantra. Now I have bone spurs growing inside of the joints of both large toes. The surgical option is stupid. Over the next 10 years or so those joints will fuse. Now I can't even hike on anything other than flat ground without intense pain. It hurts to drive. That some women do that so they can meet the current popular conception of beauty seems perverse to me, just like amputation kink does. Remember, I live in coastal SoCal -- I see very little obesity and a lot of people that exercise themselves to death. There are much more fun and fulfilling forms of torture, IMHO, with much lower risks of permanent tissue damage.

[Adel]

Physical

stress is good for the soul.

agreed, but permanent tissue damage sucks. It reduces your ability to be active and enjoy life. I know a lot of professional yoga teachers. What is their most frequent topic of conversation? - their injuries. I preach "moderation in all things, especially moderation" and in the Garden you are free to choose. Gardens take work, but the activity is varied, and you will still have a small belly. Healthy is sexy and fulfilling. The popular conception of beauty does not reflect a healthy lifestyle.

[Adel]

Meh I have a 3.5% bodyfat.

Note: I disagree with Adel's view of the "good life", I agree with everything else.

and you are young. Either you have that special body type, or you will thicken with age, or hurt yourself trying to keep the natural thickening from happening.

[Adel]

Adel, im of the live and let live persuasion when it comes to people doing what they want with their bodies regardless of health risks.

there is a good chance that these women are so physically active that they do not menstruate.
I do not think it is beautiful when a women tricks her body into thinking that her survival is so questionable that pregnancy would likely result in her death.

Why is this a bad thing?

When your body shuts down a function as biologically important as the ability to reproduce, that has got to be a warning sign that you are doing something wrong.

Right now Daddy Culture is teaching an ideal that is not only unobtainable for many (which often encourages them to just give up and get obese) but it is also physically unhealthy from a multi-year perspective.

I'm not talking policy here -- even elective amputation would be legal in my utopia -- just what is probably healthy for most people.

[Adel]

I honestly don't understand why people are so willing to throw away their reproductive capacity.

Wow, who cares. You're just brainwashed by society, there's nothing "special" or "magical" about giving birth. Ask my mother.

I did. She said that there was nothing "special" or "magical" about

your

birth, but most births are.

[Adel]

ADOPTION.

in your case: ABORTION

[Adel]

I honestly don't understand why people are so willing to throw away their reproductive capacity.

Wow, who cares. You're just brainwashed by society, there's nothing "special" or "magical" about giving birth. Ask my mother.

I did. She said that there was nothing "special" or "magical" about

your

birth, but most births are.

Oh surely you would know, since you are barren and childless.

and you are an abortion with an amazing will to live. I've seen the scar the rusty coat-hanger left on the top of your malformed skull, and how you purr when your cell-mate strokes it.

[Adel]

five trolling posts in a row!
ALL HAIL ERIS!

[Adel]

it was and you fell for it, lol, and so was mine.

[Adel]

Adel...deep inside you know that I can hurt you more than you can hurt me

how can you hurt me?

[Adel]

Adel...deep inside you know that I can hurt you more than you can hurt me

how can you hurt me?

You're an emotional wreck. Worse, you've been spending most of your life covering your past wounds with layers of self-delusion. Anyone with the will to poke at you can get a rise out of you, pitiful creature that you are.

I am a Discordian. I literally worship Eris.

How can you hurt me?

[Adel]

Gurgi, I've never even heard of you before this thread. But seeing that you are 15 years old, I don't think I would care.

2009-1992= 15?

[Adel]

I honestly don't understand why people are so willing to throw away their reproductive capacity. I'm technically unable to have children, and most assuredly wish I could. I generally haven't mentioned it, but it does irritate me when someone is like "Who gives a damn? Having a baby would suck anyway". I'm not sure precisely where I'm going with this...but it does seem rather...callous I guess?

See this kind of bothers me because I want to be sterilized, and am having a hell of a time getting there. It's a personal choice. No one should be required to have kids. And no one should be told they can't. But the reason I get so worked up over this is cause doctors don't want to acknowledge that some women just don't want kids and can still have full, healthy, happy lives. You want kids? All the more power to you. Hell, taking care of kids for 18 years is something that takes a lot of work, so people who have them earn my respect for that. But I don't see why fertility can't be more of a choice than it is now. And I don't see why society should push babies down peoples throats either.

right on sister! I was talking about the reproductive system shutting down not as a conscious choice, but as an unintended consequence of a level of activity that I do not consider to be healthy.

If is your body. It absolutely should be your choice.

[Adel]

Why is it okay if she were older?

An irrelevant child asking a relevant question, quite ironic.

Because she would have had a long time to deal with the shock already and come to terms with it.

btw, while you were gone LG earned more respect and authority on this site than you ever enjoyed, and I was awarded two scummies.

and I am looking forward to the fall-out from a certain on-going game you were lynched in. I'll probably enjoy that as much as I enjoyed revealing to the scummer population how you played in several games for personal retribution instead of your role's win condition. Then you will quit the site again.

[Adel]

btw, while you were gone LG earned more respect and authority on this site than you ever enjoyed, and I was awarded two scummies.

and I am looking forward to the fall-out from a certain on-going game you were lynched in. I'll probably enjoy that as much as I enjoyed revealing to the scummer population how you played in several games for personal retribution instead of your role's win condition. Then you will quit the site again.

And you know what I especially LOVE?

The fact that you go around saying that "abr got you lynched", when it usually takes a majority of players to do that. It would be quite a compliment if it wasn't for the person it was coming from.

you replaced into games to lynch me, as you actually stated in one post game. You weren't playing to win, you were playing to lynch Adel. I exposed you as having the kind of character that many players choose not to play with. I won that meta game.

I love seeing the word "honor" in your sig, btw. Irony is delicious.

How are you going to hurt me?

[Adel]

O.K., Adel, I will be very, very very very honest with you I swear on my own life.

I said that to fuck with you.

100% truth. I don't need you to believe me, but you should be able to hear it from me for your own sake.

damn, I was hoping that you would threaten me with physical violence.

from http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6470

You should not make any post, or start any thread, with the intention of abusing, ridiculing, insulting, offending, or upsetting any other user on this site. Within a game, criticism of another player's play is acceptable - making it personal is not, and may result in action by the moderator of that game. Outside a game, determination of the intention of the poster will be made by mith, or someone appointed by mith.

I was trying to see how many times you would break site guildelines.
thanks for stating your motivation though.

[Adel]

I enjoyed the chance to write lines like

You're just brainwashed by society, there's nothing "special" or "magical" about giving birth. Ask my mother.

I did. She said that there was nothing "special" or "magical" about

your

birth, but most births are.

and you are an abortion with an amazing will to live. I've seen the scar the rusty coat-hanger left on the top of your malformed skull, and how you purr when your cell-mate strokes it.

and I enjoy playing to win in whichever games I happen to find myself in.

I did not enjoy having an interesting and sincere conversation interrupted by trolling.

Thanks for playing with me, but next time please save it for formal games.

[Adel]

are you guys talking about this Fawn?

[Adel]

I remember some study that said women with characteristics resembling children are found most attractive... small chins, big foreheads. Which sort of pisses me off because it reinforces the "helpless child-like woman" syndrome.

yeah fuck genetics I mean geez

Nevada -tan had a small chin and a big forehead... I don't consider her to be helpless... but she was a child.

[Adel]

= the knowledge necessary to build your own Garden and be your own Deity.