Do you believe in evolution?

[Alasdair]

why the shit are you guys wandering onto talking about the Bible

I thought it was on the scientific theory of evolution for the biodiversity of life on this planet and the origin of species

if you disagree with that then you're as silly as not agreeing with the theory of gravity, the theory of atoms, or the theory of germs

As somebody who has enough faith to believe in God while still accepting science, I challenge an evolution denier (I'd call them creationists but really that'd imply they had a belief system that made sense, that'd be like calling holocaust-deniers their own special name for their wacky belief system)

[Alasdair]

Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!

Watch me do this too

Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.

I'm going to toss this silly Bible out, who believes in that shit, could be gone tomorrow

[Alasdair]

why the shit are you guys wandering onto talking about the Bible

I thought it was on the scientific theory of evolution for the biodiversity of life on this planet and the origin of species

if you disagree with that then you're as silly as not agreeing with the theory of gravity, the theory of atoms, or the theory of germs

As somebody who has enough faith to believe in God while still accepting science, I challenge an evolution denier (I'd call them creationists but really that'd imply they had a belief system that made sense, that'd be like calling holocaust-deniers their own special name for their wacky belief system)

So you prefer to not interpret the Bible literally, and therefore not interpret the book of Genesis literally, either by citing the verse of the day=1000 years, or just inserting an arbitrary gap between Gensis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2

Or do you prefer to ignore the entire book of Genesis?

Just curious.

Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally, if you take the Bible literally you're going to have a hard time understanding that Jesus guy, he keeps on going off about wacky stories that don't relate to the matter!

But I prefer to talk about science, so I'd like Adele to know how we want this approach to go. Would you like me to present the evidence for evolutionary theory to you, Adele, or would you like to shoot it down? Who wants to take on defense?

[Alasdair]

Supernova 1987 is a Supernova that we can use simple trigonometry to find is 168 K light years away. First the supernova lit up, then the gas rings around them lit up about 8 months later. Simple trig to figure out how many light years it is away. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't even depend on the speed of light

So how can there be light 168 K years old in a 6K year old universe?

[Alasdair]

dude reading's for fags, I'm here to fuck with Creationists, they really are on the same level as people who don't accept the theory of gravity so WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MORONS

also where are these scientists who don't agree with the theory of gravity I hope they have good handholds otherwise earth will throw them off and that would be rather sad

[Alasdair]

You are dogmatic in your approach to this matter, and condescending besides. It makes me think that your understanding of the subject is limited to the first - or perhaps second - round of "lies to children" you got fed. Newsflash: Reality is more complex and elegant than is dreamed of in your philosophy.

I didn't fucking bring up dogs stop changing the subject

[Alasdair]

why the shit are you guys wandering onto talking about the Bible

I thought it was on the scientific theory of evolution for the biodiversity of life on this planet and the origin of species

if you disagree with that then you're as silly as not agreeing with the theory of gravity, the theory of atoms, or the theory of germs

As somebody who has enough faith to believe in God while still accepting science, I challenge an evolution denier (I'd call them creationists but really that'd imply they had a belief system that made sense, that'd be like calling holocaust-deniers their own special name for their wacky belief system)

I'm curious, how do you reconcile science with your faith? How do you consider your religious belief scientific in light of the fact that faith is wholly irrational (see the now defunct God Thread, which I think this may prompt a resurrection of)?

No you're wrong evolution is real but we didn't come from STINKING MONKEYS !

We did not come from monkeys. Monkeys are a contemporary evolved species. We came from, and still are, apes.

Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!

Watch me do this too

Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.

I'm going to toss this silly Bible out, who believes in that shit, could be gone tomorrow

*blink* I thought you said you believed in god?

sarcasm

[Alasdair]

I don't know what your talking about I know my teacher said we came from monkeys are you a teacher I DON'T THINK SO

BZZT! Argument from authority.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

I think I will be using this counter point in every debate of mine in the future

[Alasdair]

Why would God make the universe first and then make the Earth like 100 million years later. Did you even read the bible?

This is drifting into the God thread...but you actually need to prove that God did make the universe before this is even a legitimate question.

BZZZZT

[Alasdair]

You guys do know, that the POPE said evolution happened.

THE FLIPPING POPE SAID IT.

BZZZZT

[Alasdair]

Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!

Watch me do this too

Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.

I'm going to toss this silly Bible out

Good boy. Well done.

And if you aren't willing to admit you COULD be wrong, how do you propose to refine and improve knowledge?

when you get around to finding that pesky evidence I might admit it

BZZZZZZZZZT

[Alasdair]

[Alasdair]

dude thinking someone couldn't disprove it is ARROGANCE people used think THE EARTH WAS FLAT

[Alasdair]

how do you explain the fact that a dog has never given birth to a cat

[Alasdair]

so how do you explain that the second law of thermodynamics means evolution is impossible unless there's some huge energy source out there pumping energy into earth

[Alasdair]

qft

(hahahahaha I'mnot even quoting anything)

[Alasdair]

no mang, in a closed system such as earth the 2nd law of thermo says that things become more disordered (a tornado going through a junk yard won't make a 747), evolution is adding more order to the closed system and the only way that'd be possible is if there was a huge energy source pumping energy into earth which is clearly impossible and silly