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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:31 am

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In post 0, Killthestory wrote:no competition mcgregor wins hands down. most people r saying "well it's boxing mayweathers never lost a boxing match hurr." let me break it down why mcgregor wins

first off, if you watch pacquio v mayweather, you see pacquio has big chances to tag and knock out mayweather. he backs him up to a corner and delives some blows but never really penetrated. plus, mayweather always ducked away because of pacquios low arm reach. conor is a long armed bastard with a killer left hand. he'll tag mayweather with blows coming out the gate and back him into a corner. the moment Floyd tries to run off, conor knocks him the fuck out. he'll knock you out in a blow with both hands, is extremely fast with 8 pounce gloves, and he can change stances fluently.

that leads to the next point. conor trains harder and better. cardio, accuracy, changing stances with fluency, movement (especially importent) taking a beating. floyd looks to have been training his regular schedule. that ain't going to work for conor. conor puts his soul into his work and trains hard every fucking day. floyd does too, the man's in impeccable shape after getting 41 years, but in his recent trainings, you see him getting tired fast with less comprehensive results as to how he'll face conor in the wrong.

also, again, he's old. 41 means he won't be as quick or strong
prime mayweather could best mcgregor. this one can't. he's too old. one mistake, one slipup and conor will have your fucking head. not only is mayweather old, but mcgregor is working on cardio, stamina, and being fast altogethrr. he will run circles around mayweather. mcgregors time shift isn't much a chance for match lengths to him. only a few minutes different with the general rounds more diffrrent.

conor is unlike anything floyds seen before. he's not going to give any fucking respect to his opponent or keep a normal stance. he'll bite ur fucking ear off and not care lol.,plus conor can alternative and he doesn't give a fuck whichever hand knocks him out.

if not any of those, the irishll never surrender. they'll fight tooth and nail for victor6, and conors with that enthusiasm and national pride.

2:30 probably stuff I missed but I'm tired
I mean, I'd love if McGregor beat him, but the chance of that seems very slight to me.

McGregor's odds are 10/3. Mayweather's is 2/9. That seems to offer you a pretty good place to put your money where your mouth is.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:33 am

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Frankly whoever managed to market a marquee match between someone who has zero boxing matches and someone who is 49-0 should be viewed as one of the all time greats in match promotion.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:59 am

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also, from what I can tell Mayweather trains exceptionally hard.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:35 am

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currently McGregor is at +400 with implied odds of 20%. So if you believe he has a better than 20% chance of winning, place your bet! Implied odds for Mayweather is about 85%.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:38 am

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Yeah. This is great for McGregor.

And crazy to think Mayweather would win in MMA. The only way that might have been true is if Mayweather were a knockout specialist, and that is definitely not his style.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:50 am

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I hope you're right! I'd much prefer to see McGregor win. I just think it's very unlikely.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:56 am

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yeah i dunno... i think when you're an athlete you do what it takes to win. I can respect Mayweather's fighting style. He's very, very good at it. But I would prefer to see exciting fighters win, and I would prefer not to see people like Mayweather win -- but he'll get a ton of money either way so...
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:59 am

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i rewrote my post because i thought you said something else. I agree the guy is an asshole who abuses women.

But keep in mind that Mayweather has basically made his phenomenally economically successful career by being the guy to hate and root against (as well as being undefeated, which also feeds that). If you or your father buy the PPV and then root against Mayweather, Mayweather will be happy with your decision.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:37 am

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In post 27, Korts wrote:
In post 16, zoraster wrote:I hope you're right! I'd much prefer to see McGregor win. I just think it's very unlikely.
Why? If he somehow wins, he's never coming back to defend his belt. He'll hold not only the UFC lightweight strap hostage, but however many boxing belts he will have taken from Mayweather. He'll set his sights on new horizons, like he always does, and goddammit Aldo why did you have to lunge face-first into the first punch he threw?
How many more bouts do you think Mayweather fights if he wins?

Also I'm going to assume McGregor would accept a return bout, probably with a better money split.

Anyway, I'd rather not cheer for the guy who has repeated domestic battery charges and has spent time in jail for doing so. I could be wrong, but I also assume that if McGregor wins it'll be on the back of an aggressive attack and not outpointing Mayweather.

This isn't exactly a hard call, really. But again... what I want and what I think is going to happen are far, far away from each other.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #9) » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:00 am

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yeah, even hiplop backed away from that claim.

But again, the odds are good enough if you feel strongly enough about McGregor winning, I'd put some cash down on it. You literally only have to think he has about a 21% chance of winning for a McGregor bet to math out, so if you think he has an 80% chance or something (as your strong language indicates), it should be a slam dunk.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:18 am

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the only bet favoring mcgregor that i'd be marginally tempted by is McGregor by KO.

EDIT: Except nah. Apparently everyone feels the same as me and it only pays an additional $25 on a $100 bet

Apparently the odds on result is Mayweather by T/KO? That seems... odd.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:50 pm

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fluidity, adaptability, etc. are all things that are valuable in MMA in a way that they aren't in boxing.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:47 pm

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just ask yourself how comfortable you are streaming some backwater site hosted out Ukraine or something.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:23 pm

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It's possible if he keeps finding a way to make hundreds of millions fighting a rookie
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Post Post #203 (isolation #14) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:46 am

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most experts scored McGregor winning the first few rounds, but it seems likely Mayweather almost did that on purpose (either to get a sense of his opponent who he hadn't seen box before or to build drama for a high paying event though I have my doubts on that one).
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Post Post #204 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:46 am

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PS. Can we talk about dumb the scoring system for boxing is?
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Post Post #215 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:49 am

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Eh. It just seems so rigid and displays information in a difficult to understand way. Basically no rounds ever end up in anything other than 10-9 or (on occasion) 10-8. Theoretically you're supposed to lose two points for a second knockdown, but how often will a second occur in a single round without a TKO? You might as well just display each round a 2-1 for a standard round win and a 2-0 for a dominant round victory.
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