2017 NFL Football

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Kizer definitely does not have a noodle arm...

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Funny you mention deflate gate, cause that garbage is why anyone shouldn't trust the idiotic NFL investigations over, y'know, the police investigation which said he didn't do it.

(For the record, I don't think he's guilty of domestic violence, but he should get a punishment for ripping that girl's top off)

Also, it's should have, fool.

Also, speaking of Rice, he should've gotten the indefinite suspension.

Except the DA said that they believed the girl about the incidents???? Man, people really need to read the letter the NFL sent to Zeke's team before commenting shit like this.

http://www.espn.com/pdf/2017/0811/Ezeki ... -11-17.pdf

Three separate instances that medical experts found consistent among pictures, descriptions, and timelines. DA saying that they believed her. NFL even saying they took the concerns about the credibility of the witness into account.

Just because charges were not pressed doesn't mean that law enforcement doesn't think he did it. It means they don't think they can prove it in a court of law.

Also, after zeke's appeal gets overturned, I doubt he can even take this to court. Deflategate already set the precedent that due to the cba, Goodell can basically suspend anyone for whatever reason for however long.

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Hue absolutely should be fired but Haslam might be dumb. Cleveland has enough talent on the defense to have at least 4 wins by now. They might end up with 1 win this year. You can't keep a coach who goes 2-30, that would be so dumb.

Sashi wasn't perfect (his aversion to actually taking a good qb, though you never know how much that was Haslam) but Hue has been the worst coach in the NFL. No way they should keep him.

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I'm fucking livid

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Yeah despite the fact that he clearly makes a conscious effort to reach for the plane, there is no clear shot of where the ball hits the ground. Kindly fuck off refs. Kindly fuck off NFL.

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It's just that even under the rules that's a catch. Him making a clear distinct move to break the plane establishes himself as a runner.

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He makes an effort to reach for the goaline. The minute he does that it's a catch. That is establishing himself as a runner. Not to mention, there is still no clear shot of the ball touching the ground. By rule, it's a catch. Even if not, by rule there is not enough evidence to overturn it. It's a catch and a touchdown. No I will not blame Ben. Cause that was a touchdown. By every rule it's a touchdown. No rule allows that to be overturned.

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Basically. Kind and lil uzi. Go fuck yourself. You are wrong you cunts. Don't fucking care if I get banned for this you guys a fucking retarded.

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Still haven't seen an indisputable shot of the ball touching the grass but no keep arguing it's the right call you fucking pricks. Cunts.

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Hey T-Bone. You can just tell me to chill out. You don't have to say it was the right call and antagonize me. You shouldn't be a mod. Cunt.

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Yes sorry kid you cool

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Sorry kmd you keep getting autocorrected but yeah you cool sorry

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Go cuse right?

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TBF, I think I watched like one SF game.

Then why are you commenting on Jimmy G, Beathard, and the 49ers?

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Beathard's stats are also pretty awful in basically every QB related metric. Just because he hasn't been as awful as Kizer doesn't mean he has been serviceable.

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But Gettleman was probably the best gm available...

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TBF, I think I watched like one SF game.

Then why are you commenting on Jimmy G, Beathard, and the 49ers?

'cause its like I can have an opinion. *mind blown*

A shitty uninformed opinion...pretty sure you are just trolling, but in case you aren't

Beathard's stats are also pretty awful in basically every QB related metric. Just because he hasn't been as awful as Kizer doesn't mean he has been serviceable.

I mean, he's a rookie on the nfl's worst offense. Not like that has anything to do with it. He's 50th in QBR and everyone has way more experience/is expected to be better. Bortles and maybe McCown are the only two that are mildly surprising.

The 49ers do not have the worst offense in the NFL, especially not since the quarterback change. Both in the eye test and statistically, they are better than the Browns, Giants, Colts, Bengals, Cardinals. Probably more too. Beathard sucks. It's been night and day between Garoppolo and him. Basically everything you have said on this topic has been wrong.

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Parade time in Cleveland?

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This and the fact that they have a tendency to look past opponents when they have games against the Pats coming up are why I'm not sure they'll make the AFC title game.

This has never actually happened, unless you count last year against a decent Dolphins game where Ben got hurt in what I believe was the third quarter but okay whatever you say. They also don't play down to opponents in the playoffs but sure.

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Bengals bringing back Marvin Lewis. Browns bringing back Hue Jackson. WTF Ohio teams?

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Izzy, they didn't overlook the Ravens. That was a divisional game with playoff implications for both teams. It's a rivalry where almost every game is close. Come on. One Tomlin interview where he is directly asked about the Patriots doesn't mean they were overlooking the Ravens. Like, I know you hate the Steelers, and yes, the Patriots own us throughout the years, and I fully expect to lose to them in the championship game, but stop spouting untrue narratives.

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Yes they absolutely do. No one is denying that. That doesn't happen in the playoffs, though. They aren't going to overlook or play down to the chiefs or the titans (who they match up very well against both), or the jags who they absolutely want revenge on.

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Also, at least Andy Dalton didn't crush our playoff dreams this year

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Thanks for getting Marvin Lewis an extension! Now the Bengals can continue to occasionally beat the Ravens while giving us two wins a season woo!

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Is there where I make fun of Joe Flacco's contract now?

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Um, for it to be an illegal forward pass, Mariota would have to be completely over the line of scrimmage. As long as any part of his body is on, or above, the LOS, it is a legal pass. He is clearly at least above it when he releases the ball.

The noncall on the Mariota fumble was bad (Chiefs never had a clear recovery though). Them not reviewing the Kelce maybe fumble was more bad as Titans did have a clear recovery there.

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If anything, the TV line was behind the LOS, as it was just below the hashmarks. Clear touchdown.

Also, the NFL, not the officials, decide if scoring plays need reviewed or not. They obviously had it confirmed as a touchdown.

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Yes, Triplette has been a garbage ref for quite some time. Yes, his explanation was stupid since the ball was batted.

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Can't wait to see the Patriots drop 50 points on the Titans next week!! (Yes, I'm assuming the Bills are going to lose)

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So I just saw a replay, and yeah KC does have a clear recovering on the nonfumble by Mariota. Absolutely horrible call. But if you don't score at all in a half of football, then meh you probably deserve to lose.

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Wasn't against the Patriots so thus a catch obviously. (This is a joke, Izzy, though James catch still a catch and though ir most likely touched the ground refs never got a clear view of thaitheaojneoidfnewoihnioweth yes im still bitter)

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it needs to happen more often so I can get 10 pts per TD in fantasy.

Look at this guy not playing PPR. Noob

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This is certainly a football game

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fumble, grounding, pick
way to go tyrod taylor's bad backup

It's not like Tyrod did anything better...guy can't hit an open receiver if unless it is within five yards.

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yo so the patriots are gonna lose this week.

you have all been informed.

A Dick LeBeau defense shutting down Tom Brady? Hah. Funny.

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Josh McDaniels acting unprofessionally? Shocking.

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he didn't send dick pics, he sent a picture of his butt - I thought? even so, that's not even close to cheating, it's an immature nonmalicious prank

Trivializing sexual harassment by calling it a nonmalicious prank. Nice.

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This guy has to be trolling, right?

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This sure is one crazy descent into madness.

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Meh, everyone knows Allen has a cannon of an arm. It all depends on whether or not teams think they can fix his accuracy issues. I also though Rosen's 60ish yarder to Ridley was more impressive due to Ridley never breaking stride.

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If they take Barkley number 1 they are dumb.

First off, Tyrod is a shit QB. He refuses to throw the ball more than 10 yards. It's why Buffalo tried to bench him for Nathan Peterman. He's obviously a stopgap. Secondly, if you are a team that needs a QB, then you absolutely should decide on what QB you absolutely want. It doesn't matter that Barkley is one of the best RB prospects of recent history. You don't risk losing your first choice franchise QB for a RB. Both the Giants and Colts could trade down, Giants can also trade down. You take who you think is the best QB in the draft at 1. If think, oh, we can just settle for the third best QB, then that is absolutely the wrong mindset when it comes to the NFL.

Also, the best RB currently in the NFL was taken in the bottom half of the second round.

Third, the Browns made one good move today. That was trading for Landry, however I worry they will give him WR1 money when he isn't worth that. Randall got benched in one of the worst CB groups in the NFL last year. He's not good. Tyrod is a bad qb who limits the offense to be purely running based. And frankly, I'm fucking tired of people constantly saying the Browns do good in the offseason. It's year after year after year after year of people being impressed with their moves and then they do shit in the regular season. They still have no QB. Still have a meh secondary. Still have a bad head coach.

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I mean, you probably could just trot out Kesler or Kizer. Maybe Tyrod wins 2 more games then them. Maybe the Browns get to 3 wins with him. Woo way to go. it's a waste of a draft pick when you should still be taking a QB number 1.

The Browns weren't going to be competitive next year anyways. Don't trade for a QB who can't actually play the QB position.

Point is just stop acting like the Browns won the offseason when they made 2 meh trades. Congrats, you have Jarvis Landry now. You are still the worst team in your division.

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Rosen has said that he would play for the Browns, he is basically calling that report false.

You don't take a rb number 1. I don't care if it's the second coming of Jim Brown It's asinine. Look at the past ten or so Super Bowl winners. The best running backs were probably Marshawn Lynch and Ray Rice (Lynch was traded away from the team that drafted him, Rice was drafted in the second round). And I would argue both those teams did it more on their defense, and when it comes to Baltimore, Joe Flacco somehow playing out of his mind. But most of the past winners have all had a committee of running backs. Most have had a top tier qb (or Eli, Flacco, and Foles performing like one) or an absolutely amazing defense (Denver).

You take who you think is going to be your franchise QB. You don't risk that QB being taken at 2 or 3. Whether it is Rosen or Darnold or Mayfield or Allen (Browns don't be dumb, don't take Allen) you take the qb first. You don't just decide to take who is left at 4. You take your guy at 1.

Also, I agree Tyrod is better than Kizer. You still wasted a third round pick for a slight improvement.

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Also, the best RB currently in the NFL was taken in the bottom half of the second round.

and the best QB was taken in the 6th

Sure. The pats got extremely lucky. But most franchise QBs are taken in the first round. If you look at the top QBs in the league, only really Brady and Brees were taking outside the first round. Oh and Wilson and Cousins.

Out of the starting running backs in the league, only Elliot, Gurley, McCaffrey, Fournette, and Lynch are first round picks. You can include Ingram but he hasn't really ever been a star and he basically splits carries with Kamara. Oh and Melvin Gordon but he hasn't really been amazing. The point is, the Browns should absolutely know who they want as their franchise QB. You take that guy number 1. You don't wait and take whoever is left at 4. Yes, you probably lose out on Barkley. But you can take Guice at the top of the second round still. You can find star running backs throughout the draft. You have a chance to absolutely get your guy. You take it. Then you take Chubb or Fitzpatrick at 4.

And I just think a third round pick is more valuable than Taylor but ehh.

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Taking a qb 1 also allows you to trade number 4. There are going to be a lot of teams who want a qb. Jets, Bills, Cards, Broncos (take out one of them if they get Cousins over Minnesota). That pick becomes extremely valuable to trade.