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Post Post #331 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 222, zoraster wrote:
In post 221, Ginngie wrote:If the darth Vader scene gave you no joy then i am so sorry for you
As the video I posted pointed out:

1. Why does Darth Vader, a guy who is basically not in the movie otherwise, get to end Jen Orso's movie?
2. It's filmed in this weird way that makes it seem like Vader is awesome and we're supposed to cheer him on. We just had a movie where supposedly we're supposed to care about the people who did all this stuff to help the rebellion. But the movie ends (other than Leia's "hope" thing) with Vader being badass. Like now we're supposed to cheer on this horrible embodiment of everything that the crew was giving their lives to defeat? It's so weird and inappropriate.
3. He slaughters some defenseless goons. Oh boy. That's so cool.

In reality, it's an admission from the movie that it wasn't strong enough to actually stand up on its own and some sort of fan service to get people back on board and tie the movie better into the overall series was needed even if that inclusion is ridiculous.
It's amazing. Almost every word of this post is wrong.

Darth Vader shows up at the end to slaughter rebel scum because it's the fucking
Tantive IV
they're running towards. He's finishing the story of "how did the rebels get the plans?" If they had simply jumped from beaming the plans into space, there's no tension left, and EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY KNOWS THE PLANS. So they artificially restrict the plans to this one minidisc, and it's moments ahead of a Sith Lord the entire time... intellectually you know they'll (probably) make it, but emotionally you're dragged in.

Also, if you're cheering for Vader, you might be a sociopath.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:51 pm

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Back on topic of Last Jedi: I didn't hate it, like I hated TFA. I didn't love it, like I loved R1. There were great character moments, ruined by an inane and haphazard plot.

A couple of hours after viewing it, I figured out that cutting two lines would have improved TLJ dramatically:
  1. "The First Order reigns." (from the crawl) - no, you dumb sunufabitch, the First Order just got their hyperweapon blown up like...3 hours ago. The Republic may have been decapitated, but it still spans most of the Galaxy, and you neoNazis were just crawling back in from the Outer Rim or some bullshit. Pony up, get in some X-Wings, and blow their shit up.
  2. "They have eighteen hours of fuel left." - meanwhile, Rey spends at least three days on Porg Island with Luke (who was great), and the Ocean's Three crew spends some untold number of hours not being prisonraped on Casino Planet, plus travel time. The intercutting threads of the plot don't work here, and it's even more awkward than trying to figure out why hyperspace missiles aren't a thing.
Also, if you don't want anyone to come rescue the "Rebelistance", just jam their signal or something. It's completely atypical and horrific that the entire Republic turns a deaf ear to their plight.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:08 pm

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In post 356, Who wrote:Solo doesn't. The character of Han Solo at the beginning of a new hope only works as a character at the beginning of a movie. He can't have a character arc, so it's a movie about a character who has to be completely static.
Huh?

Seriously, what are you talking about? Han Solo has a life before Mos Eisley Cantina. Even discounting what is hinted in the
prequels
Lucas remixes, that's like saying Obi-Wan has to be static.
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