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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:05 pm

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Are there often enough people to play either of those? I need to try sometime when I have the time (and experience, courage, etc heh).
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:13 pm

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Dunno about scumchat, but in #mafia there's usually enough people to play most of the time, although there are periods of downtime typically while it's night\early morning in the US of A.

As a heads up though; mafia with XylBot is a bit different from on the forums, the biggest differences being often unreliable roles (and crazy setups) and no RVS, as most XylBot games start in mylo or lylo.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:17 pm

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Hehe, sounds insane and fun. :)

Thanks for the reply, I will check it out someday too.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:31 pm

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Neruz wrote:Dunno about scumchat, but
in #mafia there's usually enough people to play most of the time, although there are periods of downtime typically while it's night\early morning in the US of A.


As a heads up though;
mafia with XylBot is a bit different from on the forums, the biggest differences being often unreliable roles (and crazy setups)
and no RVS, as
most XylBot games start in mylo or lylo.
Bolded: True. Also note that there are setups which are not really quite mafia (such as momir duel, the shoot out versions that I don't remember the name of, and raf) but are still reasonably enjoyable.

Underlined: Untrue. Large number games tend to not be in lylo.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:06 pm

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It's fairly uncommon to see games with more than 7 people, you don't get games with a free lynch (barring a scum death n0) until you have at least 8 and typically you're not 'safe' until 10 because XylBot loves it's third parties.

So my statement stands,
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(not all) XylBot games are at mylo or lylo on the first day.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:18 am

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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:51 am

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Protip: Don't ribbit on irc.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:56 am

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Haylen wrote:Protip: Don't use mibbit for irc.
PROTIP: Don't bash those who do. :oops:
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:10 am

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but whats lylo or mylo?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:19 am

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Me! wrote:
Lylo: Means lynch or lose. During lylo if the town doesn't lynch a mafia member, then they have automatically lost. Typical lylo situations are 2 townies and 1 scum or 3 townies and 2 scum. If the number of mafia is equal to the number of town at any time, then the mafia have won.

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Mylo: Mislynch and lose: This is actually a more difficult one to explain. Mylo is where the only thing the town can do safely is to no lynch. You should only ever lynch in a mylo situation when a cop has gotten a guilty on another player. Examples of mylo situations are when there are 3 town and 1 mafia or 6 town and 2 mafia. If the town mislynches during mylo then it is an automatic mafia victory, UNLESS the town get lucky and the have a doc in the game that targets the same person the mafia want to.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:11 pm

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why would 6 town 2 mafia be? mislynch, 5-2, after next night, 4-2. you still have 4 people that can vote for mafia. why would this be automatic mafia win? oh wait... lynch mafia, 4-1. after night 3-1, then lynch mafia. i dont see how its automatic mafia win if you mislynch at 6 town and 2 mafia...
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:12 pm

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but i do understand, thank you for clarifications :) i guess i was confused cause neruz talked about xylbot starting in lylo or mylo, i'm assuming thats for extremely small games? or just weird setups? with like 6 town and 5 mafia
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:43 pm

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Haylen made an error, 6:3 is mylo, 4:2 is mylo, she got the two mixed up :P
Alternately, 6 players, 2 of which are scum, is mylo.

All 'standard' Xylbot setups are night first (except in 3p) and it scales the number of scum to the number of players, you have 1 scum with up to 5 players, 2 scum with up to 11 and 3 scum appear at 12.

However
Xylbot loves it's third parties and will often throw in survivors, at 7p and up a mafia group and an SK is not uncommon, and once you get past 10p you'll often see multiple mafia groups, or three SK's or so on. Typically the only player numbers that don't have first day at lylo or mylo are 9p and anything above 12p. As most games are typically around 5 - 7 most games don't have free lynches unless something prevents the scum kill.

Of course, Xylbot has a lot of crazy roles and inane setups, so that does not always hold true.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:29 am

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A Xylbot setup that totally happens from time to time:
1 Townie
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1 Mafia Goon

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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:16 am

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The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:32 am

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RayFrost wrote:The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
The trick there is to be the survivor and quickclaim + hammer FTW.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:09 am

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Parama wrote:A Xylbot setup that totally happens from time to time:
1 Townie
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1 Mafia Goon

d(''d)
This is why you don't play 3p,
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:05 am

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I don't. Unless absolutely nobody is there, which only seems to happen when I'm online <_<
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:43 pm

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RayFrost wrote:The trick there is to claim goon and have the survivor be the hammer.
Most survivors will just hammer you if you do this.

As for mylo vs. lylo, to give a "simpler" definition, if there are n scum left, lylo happens with 2n+1 players left and mylo with 2n+2.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:44 pm

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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:37 am

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Joined a while ago (nearly a year) but never really got anywhere due to busyness.

Returning to the forums now with more free time, so hi everybody =D
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:29 pm

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Belated welcome! Your avatar is cute. What's the story behind your username? I know a friend who uses that name too but no idea where he got it from.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:44 pm

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Hello!
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:47 pm

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Vayre wrote:Joined a while ago (nearly a year) but never really got anywhere due to busyness.

Returning to the forums now with more free time, so hi everybody =D
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:43 pm

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