Game of Thrones

ISO · Post Post #4675 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 6:14 am

Oh woah, hey pirate mollie!

Also this season is all kinds of bad and this final episode just left me feeling nothing for the season... which a finale shouldn't.

ISO · Post Post #4676 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 6:28 am

Reminder that Dany never sat the Throne (she was never even crowned!) and nobody ever will again so Cersei's reign as Queen of the Iron Throne is ETERNAL.

Sam has literally one link in his maester chain, how the fuck is he grandmaester of anything? Literally the worst kind of nepotism.

There is zero percent chance Jon just walks out of a city filled with angry Dothraki after he killed their Khaleesi. It stretches credibility he rotted in jail for weeks.

The whole Bran vote is weird. Are you telling me the North gets to put one of their own on the Throne to rule EVERYONE else and then opt out and nobody else had a problem with this? Riverlands and Veil, sure, they obviously showed no real desire to be independent and Bran is their nephew/cousin so it is a decent deal for them. The Reach is decimated and Bronn has power to say no since he only BECOMES Lord Paramount if he is in the Realm (Nobody there is going to follow him otherwise) so that's fine. But the Ironborn? Dorne? They are just going to let some random-ass Northerner child rule them while the North itself leaves and not even debate the notion of leaving too?

It wasn't even a bad episode. It just...had a lot of handwave stuff where they just want you to go with it.

Krazy · Post Post #4677 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:04 am

In post 4676, AniX wrote:It wasn't even a bad episode. It just...had a lot of handwave stuff where they just want you to go with it.

This episode had "we really want this ending to be at least kinda unexpected and we don't want to make it seem like the series isn't over so all the massive conflicts that would definitely emerge from this we're gonna kinda ignore so that the show seems like bran's rule won't be 30 seconds long"

chamber · Post Post #4678 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:08 am

In a broad sense I think most of the plot points could have worked. Less sold on the Long Night ending in a night, or Bran being the ultimate king, but basically everything else I took issues with could have worked. It just wasn't sold. They didn't have the time or didn't care. Or in the case of Danny they wanted her turn to make her 'evil' and not be something understandable so that we cheer as Jon kills her.

Zulfy · Post Post #4679 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:38 am

There was a water bottle present in the election scene

Nexus · Post Post #4680 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 9:20 am

I liked it.

Porochaz · Post Post #4681 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 12:18 pm

I thought the Dany stuff was actually fairly fair. I didnt really watch this season much and didnt get into the series as a whole. However my parents love it. For me the finale sucked ass. Not because it was rushed, not because characters did heel turns (I'd argue mostly otherwise), not even because some of the choices made in the last episode were fucking dumb, but because it was god-damn dull. That scene between Tyrion and Jon took forever!

Porochaz · Post Post #4682 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 12:19 pm

Also, at the dock how did Bran turn his wheelchair. Noone did it for him.

Firebringer · Post Post #4683 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 pm

I thought it was actually pretty good ending given what they were working with the previous episodes/season.

Not sure if that's just because the bar was so low after last few episodes but I was like "okay, I guess this is a fitting end to this"

When you sit down to think about a lot of the choices/things that happened it doesn't make sense:
As chamber said, why would they select Bran? Tyrions speech doesn't seem to be all that convincing if you are one of the lords of the realm.
Why wasn't Jon immediately killed by the unsullied? You are telling me the people who were executing prisoners with glee didn't kill a traitor right there and then?
Why does Sansa still want independence given her BROTHER is on the throne? And wouldn't her succeeding so easily cause the other kingdoms to withdraw as well.
Why was Jons ancestry not even mentioned for his claim to the throne? its like we threw that plotline out without explaining why

Xtoxm · Post Post #4684 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 3:38 pm

I enjoyed that more than the last 3 eps, still had some major plot flaws (jon not being immediately executed for one).
I'm glad it's over, the writing has been generally poor since the books ended, and i'm much more looking forward to the eventual release of winds of winter.

ISO · Post Post #4685 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:42 pm

yeah, same here.

TWOW will be great.

Firebringer · Post Post #4686 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 8:00 pm

the books way of handling this ending if it is the way its ending will probably be amazing. I agree with recks point that they had points down just didn't execute it well.

Xtoxm · Post Post #4687 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 8:07 pm

i agree with that point, but i'm not sure it is.
the writers said grrm basically declined to input anything into this season.

zoraster · Post Post #4688 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:32 am

In post 4685, the worst wrote:yeah, same here. TWOW will be great.

I hope so. The past two haven't really been that great.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #4689 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 7:42 am

In post 4688, zoraster wrote:
In post 4685, the worst wrote:yeah, same here. TWOW will be great.
I hope so. The past two haven't really been that great.

inte · Post Post #4690 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am

affc is my favorite book in the series

PJ. · Post Post #4691 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2019 1:14 pm

In post 4675, wgeurts wrote:Oh woah, hey pirate mollie!

Also this season is all kinds of bad and this final episode just left me feeling nothing for the season... which a finale shouldn't.

Me and my sister just laughed and meme'd the entire ep with like 2 moments where we were like put that was nice (sad drogon and Jon hanging out with ghost)

pirate mollie · Post Post #4692 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2019 3:03 am

In post 4668, xRECKONERx wrote:to me it feels like they had the right bullet points and end points

but without the books they had no CLUE how to fill the spots in between A & B so they just sucked in those moments

i bet the books end up largely the same but with tweaks that make it work for the characters

also top 3 characters in the entire show: 1. davos 2. cersei 3. the hound

ayup.

1. arya 2. tormund 3. the hound

eta: hi wgurtz!

PJ. · Post Post #4693 (ISO) » Thu May 23, 2019 6:33 am

1. Pod the Rod 2. Bronn 3. Sansa

Annadog40 · Post Post #4694 (ISO) » Fri May 24, 2019 3:00 pm

Bronn the sell sword is best boi

Also, lol at the fact he now rules the reach.

JunkoChan · Post Post #4695 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2019 11:59 am

ISO · Post Post #4696 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2019 3:04 pm

1. Qyburn 2. King Stannis I 3. Cersei

PJ. · Post Post #4697 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2019 9:06 pm

In post 4676, AniX wrote:Reminder that Dany never sat the Throne (she was never even crowned!) and nobody ever will again so Cersei's reign as Queen of the Iron Throne is ETERNAL.

Sam has literally one link in his maester chain, how the fuck is he grandmaester of anything? Literally the worst kind of nepotism.

There is zero percent chance Jon just walks out of a city filled with angry Dothraki after he killed their Khaleesi. It stretches credibility he rotted in jail for weeks.

The whole Bran vote is weird. Are you telling me the North gets to put one of their own on the Throne to rule EVERYONE else and then opt out and nobody else had a problem with this? Riverlands and Veil, sure, they obviously showed no real desire to be independent and Bran is their nephew/cousin so it is a decent deal for them. The Reach is decimated and Bronn has power to say no since he only BECOMES Lord Paramount if he is in the Realm (Nobody there is going to follow him otherwise) so that's fine. But the Ironborn? Dorne? They are just going to let some random-ass Northerner child rule them while the North itself leaves and not even debate the notion of leaving too?

It wasn't even a bad episode. It just...had a lot of handwave stuff where they just want you to go with it.

The entire dragon pit scene was really tough. Tyrion in manacles going from grey worm telling him to shut the fuck up to choosing the king, the whole choosing based on a "good story", philosophizing on stories in general given the setting, yara and the unnamed prince of dorne not being like "hold up, receding is an option? We take our vote back and recede", grey worm casually holding kings landing for like 2 months, grey worm not killing john after he was litterally killing lannister dudes in the street, and on and on.

Only good parts of that scene were sansa dunking on her uncle and Sam getting laughed out of the room for suggesting democracy

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #4698 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2020 1:04 pm

For any fans of GoT, I'm planning a large theme game with an open setup soon, and welcome your feedback:

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shiki · Post Post #4699 (ISO) » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:30 am

In post 4683, Firebringer wrote:I thought it was actually pretty good ending given what they were working with the previous episodes/season.

had everything been identical up until the point when jon snow killed daenerys, but then drogon placed dany upon the throne before melting it and daenerys triumphantly emerged from the fire in a callback that we should have expected but of course did not and she slayed jon snow with a fury similar to what we saw with her destruction of the city but on a personal level, and then we were given aerial views of what was left of the city via our queen and drogon flying around, and then in the near future greyworm, the last of those who were loyal, executing the rest of the cast, dany looking on, i think it would have been a pretty good ending.