Yeah, I've been following it; A lot of the contestants are really annoying and them insisting on sabotaging to attain suspicion upon themselves is frustrating to watch.
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I'm fairly confident that the mole is one of Erin, Aisha and Hillal.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:45 am
by Cheery Dog
I watched some of the first three episodes, I found it boring.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:22 am
by Blackberry
In post 3, Effulgence wrote:Yeah, I've been following it; A lot of the contestants are really annoying and them insisting on sabotaging to attain suspicion upon themselves is frustrating to watch.
Spoiler:
I'm fairly confident that the mole is one of Erin, Aisha and Hillal.
We're pretty much on the same page!
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My #1 suspect is Hillal although I've seen other forums where everyone else is confident it isn't him. Erin is my #2 suspect.
If it isn't one of those 2 - I will be surprised. Alex was originally my top suspect but he's gone down quite a bit.
The only reason I've ruled out Aisha is because of "Mozzies quiz info" that Sam gave her.
Ally would surprise me the most.
I really don't think it's Nick because he made a coded journal which is something I did (as a non-mole player) when I played in real life once so people couldn't read what I wrote -- but this is something conceivable for the Mole to do to trick people... Although it was very impractical and I kept forgetting what my codes were... Lol
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:41 pm
by Faraday
Just watched the first 4 episodes.
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Top mole read is Hillall after the latest one. Just seemed overly helpful, I guess. Although I guess he could be just not a dick.
Also POE I think there are a lot that would somewhat surprise me, it's not Sam or Alex, they're whole game looks town versus town (to steal a mafia term). Don't really think it's Shaun either at this point, or Kerrie? Mozzie was a fairly obvous non mole too, I thinkjust given the way he was playing. I'd be shocked if Ally was the mole, I think the point about her being unstable is fair, actually <_<. I've no real read on Linda though at this point. Who am I forgetting? Erin, Aisha, Nick? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
I've not picked up any clues, or stuff I thought could be clues yet, either
Top mole read is Hillall after the latest one. Just seemed overly helpful, I guess. Although I guess he could be just not a dick.
Also POE I think there are a lot that would somewhat surprise me, it's not Sam or Alex, they're whole game looks town versus town (to steal a mafia term). Don't really think it's Shaun either at this point, or Kerrie? Mozzie was a fairly obvous non mole too, I thinkjust given the way he was playing. I'd be shocked if Ally was the mole, I think the point about her being unstable is fair, actually <_<. I've no real read on Linda though at this point. Who am I forgetting? Erin, Aisha, Nick? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
I've not picked up any clues, or stuff I thought could be clues yet, either
Spoiler: After Seeing the 7th Episode
Ya, I didn't know what to think of Linda either and has her in my top 4 potentials. But then she got eliminated. And Alex is drawing way too much suspiscion from the editing in this episode - so I'm thinking it might not be him.
Shaun and Kerrie are both in limbo for me. I really don't think it's either of them... But it's always a possibility. For Shaun: It's difficult to conceive why a player wouldn't look in the boxes though - for all he knew there could be a box with 1 Freebie in it (and I think there might have been a box with freebies of some sort) - I don't remember if someone took Exemption #7. Still better than nothing...
My #1 suspect is Hillal although I've seen other forums where everyone else is confident it isn't him. Erin is my #2 suspect. If it isn't one of those 2 - I will be surprised. Alex was originally my top suspect but he's gone down quite a bit.
The only reason I've ruled out Aisha is because of "Mozzies quiz info" that Sam gave her. Ally would surprise me the most.
I really don't think it's Nick because he made a coded journal which is something I did (as a non-mole player) when I played in real life once so people couldn't read what I wrote -- but this is something conceivable for the Mole to do to trick people... Although it was very impractical and I kept forgetting what my codes were
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Yeah, I'd be most shocked if it was Ally too, she's just an overly passionate contestant. Alex's suspicion of Sam and the way he treated him on the tightrope and in the exemption-chain challenge feels very legitimate and I think the way he's taking control is natural so I'd be surprised if it was him. Shaun isn't the mole, flat out no way, too many things he's done don't mesh with it. I don't think it's Nick for similar reasoning to you.
Kerries someone that's 'in-limbo' for me too, a lot of the time her reaction to things (For instance the library exemption-type challenge) really felt awkward and contrived and she'd fit in what the mole editing would want ie. "Most trusted player being the mole" even though I don't really get why she's being trusted to begin with. Oh and your point about Aishia not being the mole due to Mozzie's answers makes sense but the thing is I think Sam could easily have lied?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:04 pm
by pickemgenius
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big lean on AISHA after episode 7. ONLY because of certain camera shots from the early episodes. After I saw a few things I paid more attention to her and saw some fishy things.
ALLY, ALEX, KERRIE, SHAUN DEF NOT MOLE. I honestly don't think it's a guy.
My #1 suspect is Hillal although I've seen other forums where everyone else is confident it isn't him. Erin is my #2 suspect. If it isn't one of those 2 - I will be surprised. Alex was originally my top suspect but he's gone down quite a bit.
The only reason I've ruled out Aisha is because of "Mozzies quiz info" that Sam gave her. Ally would surprise me the most.
I really don't think it's Nick because he made a coded journal which is something I did (as a non-mole player) when I played in real life once so people couldn't read what I wrote -- but this is something conceivable for the Mole to do to trick people... Although it was very impractical and I kept forgetting what my codes were
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Yeah, I'd be most shocked if it was Ally too, she's just an overly passionate contestant. Alex's suspicion of Sam and the way he treated him on the tightrope and in the exemption-chain challenge feels very legitimate and I think the way he's taking control is natural so I'd be surprised if it was him. Shaun isn't the mole, flat out no way, too many things he's done don't mesh with it. I don't think it's Nick for similar reasoning to you.
Kerries someone that's 'in-limbo' for me too, a lot of the time her reaction to things (For instance the library exemption-type challenge) really felt awkward and contrived and she'd fit in what the mole editing would want ie. "Most trusted player being the mole" even though I don't really get why she's being trusted to begin with. Oh and your point about Aishia not being the mole due to Mozzie's answers makes sense but the thing is I think Sam could easily have lied?
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I don't think Sam lied - I think technically Mozzie could have lied to Sam, but Sam didn't lie to Aisha because A: he had it written down ahead of time and B: if you're going to lie to someone what I would do is say "Mozzie split his quiz on A, B and C" where a-c are people I suspect most so that Aisha won't suspect them anymore. =P
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:42 am
by Faraday
I can't find episode 7 on the site o_0 Am I just being dumb?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:52 am
by pickemgenius
In post 11, Faraday wrote:I can't find episode 7 on the site o_0 Am I just being dumb?
Top mole read is Hillall after the latest one. Just seemed overly helpful, I guess. Although I guess he could be just not a dick.
Also POE I think there are a lot that would somewhat surprise me, it's not Sam or Alex, they're whole game looks town versus town (to steal a mafia term). Don't really think it's Shaun either at this point, or Kerrie? Mozzie was a fairly obvous non mole too, I thinkjust given the way he was playing. I'd be shocked if Ally was the mole, I think the point about her being unstable is fair, actually <_<. I've no real read on Linda though at this point. Who am I forgetting? Erin, Aisha, Nick? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
I've not picked up any clues, or stuff I thought could be clues yet, either
Spoiler: After Seeing the 7th Episode
Ya, I didn't know what to think of Linda either and has her in my top 4 potentials. But then she got eliminated. And Alex is drawing way too much suspiscion from the editing in this episode - so I'm thinking it might not be him.
Shaun and Kerrie are both in limbo for me. I really don't think it's either of them... But it's always a possibility. For Shaun: It's difficult to conceive why a player wouldn't look in the boxes though - for all he knew there could be a box with 1 Freebie in it (and I think there might have been a box with freebies of some sort) - I don't remember if someone took Exemption #7. Still better than nothing...
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I'll be really shocked if it's Alex, I don't think he'll win either, though. I enjoy watching him though.
Shaun just comes across as kinda genuine + the thing on the beach he seemed genuinely like he'd found something? I don't think there was any freebies actually left though, but even so I found the whole "let's not take money", retarded. I mean, uh, people going first took exemptions and I guess you want to be stubborn but if you end up winning you've cost yourself 5k?
My only hesitation with Hilal is that he's been helpful (Oh look how much of a team player I am) to the point it'd be weird for the mole to take that strategy? Or at the very least, not very interesting. He's still pretty suspicious as he just seems sketchy, but I can't recall too much actual things of sabotage he's done so far, could be biding his time.
Aisha and Erin are both POE mole reads, neither would surprise me at all
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:09 am
by Faraday
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I guess it could be kerrie given that uh, Linda trusted her and went home but that seems a bit obvious? IDK
Ok, I'm only 15 minutes into the episode and THE MOLE almost has to be...
Spoiler:
Erin
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I'll laugh when at the Final Four she gets terminated and I'm left utterly shocked.
The train challenge further supports this Mole suspect. This suspect seems to KNOW THE RULES (she doesn't seem to question anything, asked a distracting question 'What did the last person have?', and the particular luggage this suspect =\ *had*) and isn't as panicked as everyone else is when the train first approaches
PS
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Kerrie seems to be the smart one that realizes it didn't matter what she did, the game was over the moment Erin didn't board the train >_>.
What Ally did in the Zip Line game is exactly what I would have down. And I disagree with what the other players said, it isn't a bad selfish for her to take them out of play so that they focus on money...
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:54 pm
by Faraday
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Hillall has a fair few town tells here, it's the first time he seemed worried about his safety + his reaction winning the exemption seemed weird. The Aisha thing was WEIRD. I can only see hilall as the mole in the guys and that's fading -- Nick's reads/thought process seem very nuanced and hard to fake.
Erin/Aisha are both still possible for me and prob my 2 favourites, followed by um I guess kerrie/hilallllll
Although they made it way too obvious that Alex was going in the editing, I think.
I really want Shaun to be the mole, just for the sheer way he gets away with being bad at stuff and the audacity, but I think it's unlikely.
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:34 pm
by Effulgence
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Sad that Alex left, he was my favourite contestant by far.
I'd have done Sam's idea in the challenge (ie. Smashing all of the personal benefits) since it's optimal to increase money in the pot an it's also optimal to prevent others from potentially attaining an advantage over you. Kind of surprised that people didn't understand that and got mad at Ally, really the argument that she's being selfish is shit considering for her 'turn' she asked for money in the pot and nothing for her.
I agree that Hillall town-told so to speak during the episode and happy rule him out now. I think Erins odds of being the mole increase a lot and I'm not sure what to make of Aishia anymore? I'd probably say it's either Erin or Kerrie right now (Seriously why are people ruling her out?)
Sad that Alex left, he was my favourite contestant by far.
I'd have done Sam's idea in the challenge (ie. Smashing all of the personal benefits) since it's optimal to increase money in the pot an it's also optimal to prevent others from potentially attaining an advantage over you. Kind of surprised that people didn't understand that and got mad at Ally, really the argument that she's being selfish is shit considering for her 'turn' she asked for money in the pot and nothing for her.
I agree that Hillall town-told so to speak during the episode and happy rule him out now. I think Erins odds of being the mole increase a lot and I'm not sure what to make of Aishia anymore? I'd probably say it's either Erin or Kerrie right now (Seriously why are people ruling her out?)
Actually, you make a really good point.
"Why am I ruling Kerrie out"... Now that I think of it, I HAVE NO CLUE!
The one weird thing with her is: she was offered an exemption for half the pot in the very first episode. Later in that round that Exemption was taken away from her and put back up for grabs for anyone to take... I didn't see her seem overly upset or talk about it being unfair.
Literally, that chain challenge turned the half the pot into exemption thing into a lie. You'd think she'd be more upset about that...
But at this point I'll go with:
Spoiler:
#1 Erin, #2 Hillal, #3 Kerrie
Erin - Lots of things in the last episode: her plane incident, she had the key luggage and was in power to win or lose the train mission. Her slip in the second mission, which lost them money even though she stayed on >_>. Her personality seems like she could be the mole - nothing overly genuine from her.
For Hillal - I always choose the nice, unassuming guy as The Mole when I host, and people never get it right till the end... LOL. Plus, why would a *player* give his exemption away - for all he knows Aisha could have went home with his exemption in her hand... I don't get why he was excited after the train mission began and they left. They got their answer wrong in the plane challenge. He screwed up the hidden picture mission by stealing Shaun's answer. In the sand challenge, he literally put sand ON TOP of where it was supposed to be.
MAYBE Kerrie...
Shaun & Nick are on the probably not list. The last 3 are ruled out.
Sam is playing too hard to be the Mole. Aisha I think has been to genuine during parts. Ally is to emotional and is also my favorite ^_^.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:09 am
by pickemgenius
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aisha or erin still the guesses.
the shot of three people when i forget who said something during the execution were ERIN then AISHA then SHAUN. mb those three f3 or some shit. SPECULATIONS!
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:33 am
by Faraday
Someone run a mish mash version of the mole plz! Watching this would make it fun to play one
