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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:29 pm

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And this is what happens when the World Series is literally more important than everything else in the eyes of the Astros and MLB :(

come on LA, you can comeback from this.....
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:52 pm

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Lol stop crying over overblown shit. He was trash last game, you should be grateful.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

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yeah, dunno what i was thinking, making inappropriate racist gestures is totally acceptable :roll:
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:42 pm

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Implying all cultures have the same concept of racism as you is probably more ignorant than what he did to be honest.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:03 am

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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:59 pm

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He would have just appealed and been allowed to play anyway
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:28 am

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Yup. At least this way he’ll 1. learn more about what is and isn’t acceptable in American culture, 2. he will actually miss games, AND 3. his paycheck will go to charity.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:46 am

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1. that gesture is OBVIOUSLY RACIST and 2. he played a year in Japan

and 3. he used a racial pejorative along with his racist gesture
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:51 am

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He did not use a racial pejorative. Stop spreading lies. The gesture is obviously racist in American minds, just like a lot of things that people do here would be racist in American minds.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:34 am

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He used a racial pejorative that he has admitted he knew was offensive from his time in Japan
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:55 am

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What word? All I've heard is he called him chinito which isn't a pejorative, but can be insulting, which falls in line with shit talk, which is what it appeared to me he was doing rather than trying to be racist.
Maybe I'm wrong and he really is racist and hates Asians, but his past actions don't really point to that, so I'd rather not crucify someone that speaks 0 English and has lived in the US for like a year.



Das jus me, tho
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:15 am

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It's insulting and it's based on his race. That's literally the definition of "racial pejorative".
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:05 pm

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Nah, cause the word is used essentially the way we use “Asian”. This is exactly the problem with applying your mindset to every culture in the world. Do you just assume the way you think is superior?
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:13 am

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Dude, I live in a Spanish culture, it's doesn't mean "Asian", it means "chink". It's basically a colloquialism for "you all look the same". Literal meaning is "little Chinese man or boy". You could use the term affectionately, but that would require Darvish to be the dude's close friend. Like you don't walk into a Sushi Bar and start talking to the guy behind the counter like "ey chinito, un crunchy roll, por favor". The guy admitted what he said and doing the gesture was racist and indefensible. You're the only guy defending him. It's literally only you.

If you have a bone to pick with American people because they always inject their opinion and demand it's right, that is totally acceptable and possibly justified, but also completely not applicable here. People in spanish-speaking cultures agree that it's offensive, Gurriel himself agrees it was offensive, tons of Asian and Asian-American celebrities have called it offensive. There is not a culture where doing slanty eyes than hitting him with a pejorative that figuratively means "you all look the same" is acceptable.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:39 am

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I have lived in Spanish cultures as well, which is partly why I made the comment as I’ve only heard the word used the way we use Asian in English. Yes the literal meaning is little Chinese boy, but the colloquial meaning is not as bad as the literal meaning makes it seem. There’s a lot of things we call people in Chinese where if you took the literal meaning it would be offensive. In Taiwanese white people are called 阿啄仔 which basically means “big nose” but isn’t intended to be offensive.

I’m the only guy on THIS site defending him, feel free to check places like reddit with hundreds of Hispanic people also saying “yeah, in our culture this isn’t so bad.” I guess you’re the authority on it though, so whatever, you can be right.

Asian-Americans are Americans, of course they would have the same mindset as you lol
Japanese people are only mad about the comment cause they took the literal meaning and they hate Chinese people with a passion, so of course they’re offended. The only thing slightly offensive to me was the eye gesture, but Asians (in Asia) do the reverse when talkings about foreigners all the time, so I’m not sure how much room I have to condemn that.

There definitely is a culture where doing the opposite gesture while using a so called pejorative is acceptable. It’s called China. And most other non first world cultures don’t have a problem with stuff like this.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:53 am

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Now, to get back on the topic of baseball, if we cannot get our bats hot we will lose. Our pitching isn’t good enough for a 1 run win. Especially not in LA.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:48 am

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In post 239, Xiao Long wrote:And most other non first world cultures don’t have a problem with stuff like this.
oh well that settles it I guess
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:02 pm

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One of the most entertaining series' ever. Congratulations Houston, no one can say you don't deserve it.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:07 pm

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I'm crying so hard right now. I can't believe the Astros won it all in my life time. Such a stressful fucking series, too. So worth the almost heart attacks.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:53 pm

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Now we just need the Mariners to win.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:41 am

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Roy halladay dead at 40 in plane crash.:(
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:32 pm

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Apparently Ohnti has narrowed it down to Seattle and Oakland. As a Mariner fan this has me excited, Seattle got a lot of exposure in Japan after Ichiro signed and I think they have a leg up.

Oakland is out according to other reports, that just leaves Seattle.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:53 am

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Dee Gordon to the Mariners gives the Mariners two top base stealers in Jerrod Dyson and Gordon, and two .300 calibur hitters in Jean Segura and Gordon. If the Mariners can land Ohtani I think they will have a good shot at the playoffs if they can stay healthy, of course, I thought that last year and that's a big if.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:52 am

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Stanton to the Yankees. Fuck.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:42 am

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I don't think Stanton helps the Yankees that much, from a WAR/$ point Stanton is not a great value.
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