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In post 73, Garmr wrote:To be honest when it comes to government roles I think we should look at qualifications and not gender.
Yes! We are in exact agreement on this, but we're just coming at it from different angles.
I think that you're thinking the overall message is usually "Hey, give this woman a chance because she's a woman and women need more chances." Which I agree is absurd. The qualifications should always be paramount.
However the angle I'm approaching it is with the message "Hey, don't discount a woman just because she's a woman." Which is more the heart of the problem I think. A woman may have equal qualifications, but not get hired because of a gender bias.
Societal things aren't really being pushed anymore or at least with the people I know I never hear those things maybe it's the cultures different in america or the people I know. The fact you see people the majority of people get worked up over it when mentioned shows how views have changed and our continuing to change. Hell they even push for women to get in the steam fields but you get those stupid people who take gender studies instead of steam field then complain about it. I also think a women/man should be able to choose there job if a women doesn't want to enter a steam field she shouldn't be pressured into it.(I have seen this) And when people are pressured they normally tend to not do it.
Again, the pressure is more subtle. This is a commercial for a shitty company (Verizon), but it does kind of illustrate what type of pressure exists against girls in the sciences and why they might end up taking something more in the liberal arts.
Onto the ghost busters thing it's not really the fact there female I pretty much said this a 100 times. It's the fact they are going to throw in the "they don't think we can do it because we are female but we will show them" plot which has been done to death and is one of my least favorite plot lines because you can't do much with it and always seem to be ill placed in situations that don't garner it. Realistically people are going to have doubts that you can bust ghosts no matter the gender but once you do catch one I don't think anyone will care what gender you are.
Yeah. I can understand that. Usually those types of plots are really preachy and kinda beat people over the head with it.Occasionally intellectually honest
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I do not think Melissa McCarthy is that bad. She is funny at times. But I do think Ghostbusters 3 will suck because they are trying to do too muchWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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In post 80, Kublai Khan wrote:In post 73, Garmr wrote:To be honest when it comes to government roles I think we should look at qualifications and not gender.
Yes! We are in exact agreement on this, but we're just coming at it from different angles.
I think that you're thinking the overall message is usually "Hey, give this woman a chance because she's a woman and women need more chances." Which I agree is absurd. The qualifications should always be paramount.
However the angle I'm approaching it is with the message "Hey, don't discount a woman just because she's a woman." Which is more the heart of the problem I think. A woman may have equal qualifications, but not get hired because of a gender bias.
Societal things aren't really being pushed anymore or at least with the people I know I never hear those things maybe it's the cultures different in america or the people I know. The fact you see people the majority of people get worked up over it when mentioned shows how views have changed and our continuing to change. Hell they even push for women to get in the steam fields but you get those stupid people who take gender studies instead of steam field then complain about it. I also think a women/man should be able to choose there job if a women doesn't want to enter a steam field she shouldn't be pressured into it.(I have seen this) And when people are pressured they normally tend to not do it.
Again, the pressure is more subtle. This is a commercial for a shitty company (Verizon), but it does kind of illustrate what type of pressure exists against girls in the sciences and why they might end up taking something more in the liberal arts.
Onto the ghost busters thing it's not really the fact there female I pretty much said this a 100 times. It's the fact they are going to throw in the "they don't think we can do it because we are female but we will show them" plot which has been done to death and is one of my least favorite plot lines because you can't do much with it and always seem to be ill placed in situations that don't garner it. Realistically people are going to have doubts that you can bust ghosts no matter the gender but once you do catch one I don't think anyone will care what gender you are.
Yeah. I can understand that. Usually those types of plots are really preachy and kinda beat people over the head with it.
I think I can agree with most of what you said.
The only thing I would contest would be that it isn't social things keeping women/men out of certain courses it behavioral(there are differences between men and women's brains.). I believe we seek jobs we think would enjoy studying and working through our whole life. So that's why I believe we shouldn't force more people into a certain occupation just because a gender is lacking in there. How many women do you think would tolerate being a Sanitation engineer(garbo) hell not many men do either but a majority more can tolerate it judging from the male to female ratio of the job. I think this comes from behavioral differences (I'm making a little guess here from studies on what jobs women/enjoy and applying what I think it means)
So I say let courses be open to everyone but don't push someone into something they don't want. In the end gender doesn't matter just do what you love.
Yeh but everything else I can 100% agree with.
In post 85, PokerFace wrote:I do not think Melissa McCarthy is that bad. She is funny at times. But I do think Ghostbusters 3 will suck because they are trying to do too much
I will admit at times she is funny but it's stuck between really bad gags. Hell Kramer from Seinfeld can be funny at times.
In post 82, Psyche wrote:"Hey, give this woman a chance because she's a woman and women need more chances." Which I agree is absurd.
it's really not that absurd
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In post 86, Garmr wrote:The only thing I would contest would be that it isn't social things keeping women/men out of certain courses it behavioral(there are differences between men and women's brains.)
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In post 87, 2 Chainz wrote:In post 86, Garmr wrote:The only thing I would contest would be that it isn't social things keeping women/men out of certain courses it behavioral(there are differences between men and women's brains.)
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I actually agree with this somewhat but more because of the lack of script. Apparently a lot of the movie was a improv no script. Like they would film a scene over and over with no script but a simple set of guide lines till they felt they got it right. One factor was they were all the comic relief they had no pure straight man ect. Also if you were a melissa mccarthay fan her with out her script she was even supbar even for her movies reduced to nothing but slapstick and fartjokes with out her usual hook of redemption and having a heart of gold. I think another factor was because they seemed to try outdo each other being funny with a lot unfunny lines.In post 97, Untrod Tripod wrote:The performances were fine, the problem ultimately was the script
On it's own it's not the worst movie it's just so mediocre and bland that's it not worth the money.
Also paul feig is pretty shit with advertising. He tainted the movie with his agenda.
All my friends that did see it thought it was pretty shit even the girls thought it was mediocre and they liked melissa mccarthays previous movies.
Also it's pretty funny how the old one is more progressive than the new one. The new one uses a black stereotype instead of a actual character like Winston who was just a man looking for a job. Also all the men in this movie are portrayed as dumb or morally corrupt or just a dickhead. The original ghost busters had women be smart and snappy they weren't portrayed as dumb and stupid. - Garmr
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