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Individual-1 (Donald Trump)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:04 am
by drmyshottyizsik
I like him, and voted for him in the Texas primary, but I'm interested in what you all think. I'm sure I will be putting my self back on the MS most wanted list with this admission, but I'm interested in finding out.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:06 am
by Persivul
His presidency will be entertaining.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:08 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Sadly I think we will all be disappointed as to how normal his presidency will be. He's not a lunatic.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:08 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Now Bernie Sanders.... there's a crazy man.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:12 am
by Psyche
im not really surprised

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:13 am
by drmyshottyizsik
Wait Psyche why do we have the same title....

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:20 am
by Katsuki
VOTE: SHOTTY

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:21 am
by Cheetory6
rimshot

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:35 am
by drmyshottyizsik
In post 6, Katsuki wrote:VOTE: SHOTTY

12 years and you will be serious about that vote.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:57 am
by Kmd4390
I'm voting Trump as well.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:59 am
by drmyshottyizsik
He is decimating the playing field.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:20 am
by drmyshottyizsik
I would also like to take this time to point out that you can connect to Internet Explorer from a Wendy's POS.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:27 am
by Majiffy
Why would y-

nvm

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:50 am
by Untrod Tripod
In post 11, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I would also like to take this time to point out that you can connect to Internet Explorer from a Wendy's POS.

nice

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:53 am
by Aeronaut
Ok. So, I'm curious, what do you think about the violence surrounding his rallies? What specifically do you like about his policies besides "He tells it like it is"? Because that's all I've heard from the people supporting him.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:54 am
by SnowStorm
This is just sad.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:11 pm
by xRECKONERx
can you go the fuck away again

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:55 pm
by Glork
At this point, I'm basically assuming that anyone who votes/supports Trump is an unabashed racist.


I can understand being conservative. I can understand being fed up with the establishment (esp the GOP establishment). What I absolutely cannot comprehend is how anybody could support Trump's obvious racism, pathological lying and backtracking, and willingness to sell out to anyone and anything to increase his publicity.

Categorizing most Mexicans as rapists
Categorizing all Muslims as terrorists
Advocating war crimes by insisting that we bomb extremists' families
Making fun of a disabled reporter
Encouraging violence from his supporters by promising to cover legal fees for those who perform violent acts in his name

These words simply don't come from a person with a shred of moral fiber. To support him is to support white supremacy, oppression of good and innocent people, and the complete disregard of United States law.

Shotty, I'd like to know exactly WHY you support Donald Trump. What policies of his do you agree with, and for what reasons? Because I'm perfectly willing to have a civil and productive conversation with a Trump supporter, except that I have yet to encounter one whose answer to the question "why" isn't some generic bullshit about "he speaks his mind" or "he tells it like it is." Those are deflective non-answers from people who aren't willing to admit that they don't understand his platform or policies, or people who aren't willing to straight-up admit that they're racist bigots.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:00 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 17, Glork wrote:Shotty, I'd like to know exactly WHY you support Donald Trump. What policies of his do you agree with, and for what reasons? Because I'm perfectly willing to have a civil and productive conversation with a Trump supporter, except that I have yet to encounter one whose answer to the question "why" isn't some generic bullshit about "he speaks his mind" or "he tells it like it is." Those are deflective non-answers from people who aren't willing to admit that they don't understand his platform or policies, or people who aren't willing to straight-up admit that they're racist bigots.

this x100000000000000000000000

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:14 pm
by drmyshottyizsik
In post 18, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 17, Glork wrote:Shotty, I'd like to know exactly WHY you support Donald Trump. What policies of his do you agree with, and for what reasons? Because I'm perfectly willing to have a civil and productive conversation with a Trump supporter, except that I have yet to encounter one whose answer to the question "why" isn't some generic bullshit about "he speaks his mind" or "he tells it like it is." Those are deflective non-answers from people who aren't willing to admit that they don't understand his platform or policies, or people who aren't willing to straight-up admit that they're racist bigots.

this x100000000000000000000000

I'm at work, but I will get you a detailed explanation after work.
Also Reck I'm much different now, I would have hated the me you new 6 years ago as well. I don't plan on going the fuck away again, but who knows.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:17 pm
by drmyshottyizsik
In post 17, Glork wrote:At this point, I'm basically assuming that anyone who votes/supports Trump is an unabashed racist.


There is a huge difference between race and legal status, remember that.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:21 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 17, Glork wrote:Categorizing most Mexicans as rapists

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:23 pm
by drmyshottyizsik
In post 21, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 17, Glork wrote:Categorizing most Mexicans as rapists

But he didn't. That's simply false.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:24 pm
by Glork
I know that, but three things here:
1) Trump's comments weren't directed at only-illegal-immigrants-from-Mexico
2) Being an illegal immigrant still doesn't make you a rapist
3) Trump's comments about Muslims are arguably worse than his statements about Mexicans, and while Islam is technically a religion as opposPogChampd to a race, the combination of his statements towards both groups is indicative of a systemic xenophobic attitude

Many GOP members (and candidates!) want stricter immigration law AND stronger enforcement of said law. And most of them aren't inflammatory racists like Donald Trump is.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:27 pm
by Glork
Snotty, do me a favor and read the first point in this article. It is literally a factual rejection of Trump's statemets about undocumented/illegal immigrants.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaesteve ... 0c2d907076

You don't even have to bother with the rest of the article (although I would suggest reading the whole thing for added context) but just read and understand why his statements are false, and perhaps you can understand why they are intended to vilify the group as a whole.