Would doing a "Players Who Have Been Permabanned Mafia" get

[Thestatusquo]

Thread was already written about that here. It got deleted because it was bs.

[Shadoweh]

Oh shit I hope Survivor Meet Invitational doesn't get me in trouble!

When Faraday did Fantasy Camp 2 the only problem he had I think was the person who picked Sirdanilot so you're probably fine.

[BROseidon]

Oh shit I hope Survivor Meet Invitational doesn't get me in trouble!

Yeah what's going on with that, 2 days without MS has left me confused about everything.

It'll probably be up by like Friday or Saturday or something.

[BROseidon]

Oh shit I hope Survivor Meet Invitational doesn't get me in trouble!

When Faraday did Fantasy Camp 2 the only problem he had I think was the person who picked Sirdanilot so you're probably fine.

Yeah I'm not all that concerned. None of the flavor is mean about anyone, since it's like 95% memes.

[zakk]

ummm didn't you just celebrate first amendment rights along with the rest of things that make America great, like, two days ago? or was that just the rest of us?

imo there's nothing wrong with a good-humored satire of people, that definitely falls within freedom of speech and they would have a very difficult time proving any kind of professional harm or mental or physical anguish... see here and here and here

plus since they're permabanned i don't think they really have any ability to complain. as long as there's not like post restrictions specifying people have to act like their interpretation of the player in question, i don't think having their player names in the flavor would be a problem. i mean the scummies do that each year right? as long as it's marginally tasteful, the fact that they're banned shouldn't really make much difference right? shit, idk.

i mean, in all likeliness you should be fine... unless the site staff wanna be prudent and try to avoid being sued into oblivion...

/pre-in pls

[Thestatusquo]

First amendment has nothing to do with interactions with a private party.

Say it after me: You have no rights claims against a private institution. The first amendment only refers to government actions.

[PokerFace]

TSQ ran a game once where roles were named after players and written in poor taste. Game was stopped by the administration during day 1 because of all the trolling and bad things being said about people. You could name a role after someone if it was in good taste and respected the person it was designed after but if you made fun of the person, I feel you'd go down a similar path and since these people were all perma banned and you already gave them funny names... chances are it won't work

Edit: I think TSQ ran that game, tried to find it in the theme parks archives this morning and couldn't. So maybe someone else ran it?

Quagmire and dahill1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=8540

Ahh The$tatu$Quo certainly explains why my search failed and why I thought it was TSQ. I apoligize for discrediting the real TSQ. I have no recolection of reconer and quadz games similar to this idea. I may have missed those games happening completely

[Thestatusquo]

oh I totally forgot about that game.

Pretty sure an mod account "the$tatu$quo" would never be approved these days.

Also, I havent read through it, but I'm pretty sure cody and dahill deserved whatever punishments they got for that game.

[Iecerint]

Vi hosted a game based on active players and it was fine.

I think it could be fine if it were done well.

You would need to research the reasons for the bans to determine whether it could be done tastefully (e.g., if you like a certain banned player, but the circumstances of the banning are hush-hush).

[evilpacman18]

Hi bbmolla and iecerint

[BBmolla]

Hi EPM! I see you've been doing some crazy awesome shit EPM, congrats.

[evilpacman18]

Haha not sure which shit you're referring to but thanks!

[Faraday]

Oh shit I hope Survivor Meet Invitational doesn't get me in trouble!

When Faraday did Fantasy Camp 2 the only problem he had I think was the person who picked Sirdanilot so you're probably fine.

yeah and we got away w/ it because he was disliked too.

seems like a fine idea for a theme game tho.

[Vi]

Assuming that the administration has done away with "you must get permission from everyone whose likeness you want to use", it really comes down to intent. I ran three games about scummers and even appropriated one as a running joke in every game. Frankly there's no love lost between me and some of the people I used in MetaMafia, but I did my best to present those people as legitimate entries without making an effort to editorialize, because the point was to be entertaining and show off who's who on the site at the time. To give an idea of how much less conservative you can be than that, another game that was run in the spirit of fun ended with vezokpiraka slipping a hand into Fate's pants (still one of the most disturbing flavor scenes I can remember). The two games that got adminsmashed were the ones that were designed specifically to take a dump on people with handwaves of " 'sorry' if you're offended".

There was another relevant and IIRC peaceful game related to the

other

time a scummer threatened a lawsuit, but if you weren't around for Forum 62 I'm not sure I can explain it.

[BBmolla]

Haha not sure which shit you're referring to but thanks!

I always see you doing cool music stuff in general

[Porochaz]

I seem to remember DGB getting offended with Quag's one. I also had a vague recollection of being in it, so Im glad I was proved correct. Its a hell of a player list, so its sad it got shut down. Apart from killer seven, that guy was horrid. (Killah Nine on the other hand...)

Im trying to remember who I was, I think it was ryan, but I appear to have finally deleted any role PM before 2009. I wish I remember exactly what my post restriction was, looked fun.

[Thestatusquo]

DGB was livid over that game. She never forgave cody for it.

[talah]

Aren't folks like uberninja or cyberskeleton or whatever it was frequently referenced in scummies scripts?

Like it seems that being banned here actually provides an acceptable level of notoriety for some reason, and I don't see the line between making a game with the names of banned users as characters and idolating them as characters in scummies scripts.

*shrug*

[Porochaz]

I think its the level of what they did. RC/UN's ban was needed but if I remember correctly he never really targeted one person, so using passing references to him is generally amusing. He was everywhere on site and left quite an impact. So in site history you can't really ignore him and you can mention him without anyone getting triggered, it's the same with a few other users - Wacka Alpaca - or god, it's dangerous to say... Yamichan

There are more examples, but there really isn't any harm in mentioning them. Playing a game using their names as roles, meh, it belabours the joke for 1 and 2, you start crossing the line of glorifying what they did. And I'm treating the latter named player like Beetlejuice, she just didn't leave.

My search also dug up this gem of a thread - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=15036

[Vi]

RC/UN's ban was needed but if I remember correctly he never really targeted one person

Not really true, but Tierce shook it off pretty well while still being quite offended by some of the most blatant sexism I've seen outside YouTube comments and GamerGate.

Also, you reminded me that I did a fourth game with scummer roles. I actually got permission to use a picture of Goofball when she was like eight years old for the game, and I'm still not sure how I swung that without coming off as really creepy. So yeah, trust and respect etc.

Aren't folks like uberninja or cyberskeleton or whatever it was frequently referenced in scummies scripts?

Like it seems that being banned here actually provides an acceptable level of notoriety for some reason, and I don't see the line between making a game with the names of banned users as characters and idolating them as characters in scummies scripts.

*shrug*

FWIW after Mr. Flay left I'm not sure the mods really bothered policing/reading the Scummies.
Even so, there's a difference between threads like those and developing a months-long event that specifically denigrates people you don't like.

[Nero Cain]

I've always loved games where the roles were based on a players meta. Monkeyman ran one and I've always wished a good mod would run another. There was also mafiacamp.

[PJ.]

Unless Shotty's role pm has a restriction that the plAyer must only post from Wendy's cash registers, I think the game will be a failure.

[Iecerint]

Aww, that makes me miss Cobalt.

[Rob14]

What about a game where all the role PMs were based around the players themselves? Like Player A could play Player C, etc. Scum team are the mod and the reviewers, so fake-claims are available to them. Players/reviewers have to OK that their name can be used and that they have a sense of humor to join up. Think that would cover the bases.

[Nero Cain]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=25193