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Post Post #5625 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:00 am

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In post 5623, Accountant wrote:
In post 5620, Shaziro wrote:
In post 5618, Accountant wrote:
In post 5617, Shaziro wrote:Accountant, do me a solid. Stop replying to FA so she can stop replying to you.
I want to help FA become a better person.
Accountant, for once just have respect for the fact that somebody else would be in a better place mentally if you left them alone.
Except she's going to be in a better place if I convert her.
Christ's sake just leave her be, she's clearly shown several times that she doesn't want to respond to you, but has pointed out that she has some manner of illness that means she can't make herself not. You continuing to abuse that illness is fucked up.
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Post Post #5626 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:02 am

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The robots are actually ASIs who have long dismantled the sun and harvested it for power
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You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
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Post Post #5627 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:03 am

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In post 5625, Shaziro wrote:Christ's sake just leave her be, she's clearly shown several times that she doesn't want to respond to you, but has pointed out that she has some manner of illness that means she can't make herself not. You continuing to abuse that illness is fucked up.
I'm not PMing her. I'm leaving a public answer to a public question she can review and analyze any time she wants, including never.
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Post Post #5628 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:05 am

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She's pointed out fairly clearly she is mentally compelled to respond to people addressing her. You are abusing that. Fuck off.
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Post Post #5629 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:06 am

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Tell you what. If FA tells me to stop responding to her, I will.
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Post Post #5630 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:07 am

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I'm asking you to with FA's best interests at heart.
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Post Post #5631 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:08 am

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Ok but by merit of "yes burn the forest instead of protecting it" let's just let the robots rust
So am I right in saying you essentially want to replace humanity with robots?
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Post Post #5632 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:09 am

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In post 5603, Frozen Angel wrote:
I should really stop

the thing is I have a sickness that makes ignoring people really hard. I will do my best to avoid her though
She effectively has. Fuck off.
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Post Post #5633 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:09 am

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In post 5630, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm asking you to with FA's best interests at heart.
Okay. I accept.
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Post Post #5634 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:10 am

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In post 5632, Shaziro wrote:
In post 5603, Frozen Angel wrote:
I should really stop

the thing is I have a sickness that makes ignoring people really hard. I will do my best to avoid her though
She effectively has. Fuck off.
No she hasn't, you're once again displaying your ignorance, she's expressing a personal wish for herself and not a request for me
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Post Post #5635 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:11 am

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There's no such thing as "effectively X" or "de facto X". Either it's X or it's not.
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Post Post #5636 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:23 am

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Incorrect
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #5637 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:30 am

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You thought it was incorrect but it was actually EFFECTIVELY CORRECT XDDDDDDDD
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Post Post #5638 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:33 am

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You got me
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #5639 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:33 am

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Egg on my face
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #5640 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:36 am

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No, I got Shaziro.
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Post Post #5641 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:43 am

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Somebody once told me Paypal is the de facto standard for online payment
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #5642 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:41 am

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In post 5607, Accountant wrote:
In post 5598, Frozen Angel wrote:When you pass the red line and say killing people is ok, you become a murderer - a sociopath - and I'm begging you - please show yourself to a psychologist.
So anyone who supports the death penalty is a sociopath?
I just made like 20 posts explaining what is the difference between a death penalty and cold blooded murder and you make this post?
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Post Post #5643 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:45 am

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In post 5608, Accountant wrote:We aren't the same. A mortal has less value than a utopic follower. Hence, it's acceptable to kill mortals for the sake of utopic followers.
and I just made a post saying killing one human being is like killing all the humans even a lot of your followers.

If you seriously believe that You're the god and that you or what you create is allowed to judge life and death, you're not better than the dogs who ruined my country (my birth country) and you're not better than the dogs who are ruining the today world. They all talk nice - illustrate the dream of a perfect world and then will fuck it up like the dogs they are.
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Post Post #5644 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:46 am

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In post 5613, ConManMick wrote:Direct copy and paste of what I was going to say:

heer weight of numbers. Eventually the number of people imprisoned will outnumber you. Either they escape, or, as you say, you start killing them. Congratulations, you're now a genocidal maniac whose own actions have demonstrated the invalidity of your ideals, and you yourself are fundamentally a flawed human being not fit for this correct path of yours.
You have no empathy, and no humanity. You contribute only death, destruction, disharmony. A society ruled by the threat of violence is not an ideal society.
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Post Post #5645 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:46 am

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In post 5618, Accountant wrote:
In post 5617, Shaziro wrote:Accountant, do me a solid. Stop replying to FA so she can stop replying to you.
I want to help FA become a better person.
If it means turning to you, I rather die
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Post Post #5646 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 5615, Accountant wrote:It is not a society ruled by the threat of violence. It is a society of brainwashed robots standing on top of a mountain of rebel corpses. Is this cruel? Yes. Is this violent? Yes.

But it is also justified. One big death, and then nobody has to die again. One big rebellion, and then there will be no more rebels. One genocide, and there will be no more genocidal dictators, for our society will have evolved beyond the need for it..

That is why I am correct. Because my actions may be harsh in the short run, but they are necessary to achieve the harmonious utopia that prevents more suffering in the long.
This is the first thing I have read from Accountant that in a vague sense I can agree with. Most roads to a brighter future need sacrifices. I do agree that harsh but fair leadership and law is needed in order for the rest to prosper.

I would take a leader who is willing to kill a few people to show he means what he wants to achieve any day of the week over the "leaders" we have right now.

Mind you I do not think brainwashing is needed since if you are truly doing good most people wouldn't really mind what you are doing even if they found you extremly harsh.
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Post Post #5647 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:40 am

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shiro

kill a few people means nothing

It changes nothing

It just means your leader is a murderer

to make a notable change in how the world is governed by killing one must eliminate millions

and the rest will have to clean the blood for thousands years before recovering

Look at middle east

My birth country is there

look how they all want to make the perfect world according to what they believe. You think those people are from mars? no. They are people like you. some said "yes, killing a few people for the cause is correct"

look at them now?

Look at my country now?

Do you think people have another type of brain in there?

do you think they love killing? They kill to make a perfect world after this

do you think this is just?

You're dear ones are not dead for you to realize the weight of "killing a few people"
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Post Post #5648 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:44 am

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do I had to explode like this?

maybe not

But I just can't sit down seeing some people talking like this

Not anymore

I have pains that none of you will realize. I have been through what none of you can even dream of. so if you think your perfect world means any shit that justify killing people, I say this with UTTER certainty

It's TRASH

and you're trash for thinking like that

- If this is me violating any rules so be it. - like I love you all. all of you are good dear people. But if you truly believe "killing some people" is just I can't tell you anything but trash.

I'm done ranting
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Post Post #5649 (ISO) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:18 am

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I am cool discussing no matter how you react.

Middle East had destroyed itself not cause of sacrifices to reach a greater goal but because of religious indoctrination.

And obviously I am not talking about rounding up people to kill them because they disagree with you.
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