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Post Post #5525 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:22 pm

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Anyone with eyes can already see that I am correct. Your petty rhetoric cannot allow you to hide from me. Smoke, shadows and bluster are as nothing before the scorching light of radiant truth.

Gaze upon this wretched man, and behold him as an example of the fate that befalls all those who side with evil. The fire of the correct path can immolate as well as purify.
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Post Post #5526 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:24 pm

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I think I have a real talent for condemning people
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Post Post #5527 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:27 pm

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In post 4828, Accountant wrote:
In post 4825, Ranmaru wrote:What are your standards of mind, body, and morality? (Like can you define what is perfect for each one) What methods will you use to help people achieve perfect scores in each? I assume re-education is for those that have simply not achieved those three things yet?
The answer is the same for all three: omnipotence.

Well, it's true that you can't re-educate someone to be omnipotent(lol), so the re-education bit is to address the short term issues and evils that plague our world, just like in a game of Minecraft you'd clear out the monsters and build a shelter before trying to make a giant statue or a massive treehouse, right? Similarly, we have to get everyone on the same page, get everyone working together, make sure we don't have people shooting or stabbing or bombing each other or being technophobes (eg. the idiots that banned cloning and stem cell research) or any number of other stupidities, and once we have a perfect world where nobody is evil and everyone is absolutely good and unified into a hivemind, then we can begin the ambitious project of trying to gain omnipotence.
I want to talk more about this. What's your action plan for this? Who is the death for?
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Post Post #5528 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:32 pm

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What death are you referring to?
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Post Post #5529 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:33 pm

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Death for those that are not compliant I think. I think I read that was what would happen to some people but I don't totally remember.
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Post Post #5530 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:34 pm

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The re-education/death is to make them in line with my ideological views.
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Post Post #5531 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:35 pm

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Do I get the feeling you are not as enthusiastic in the plan as you were before, or is it just late for you? *hmm*

Would it not be better to convince people instead? I would think it'd be a more realistic approach.
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Post Post #5532 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:37 pm

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I'm just a little tired in general. Long school day and had a test. However, enthusiasm is not what defines belief in a plan. It is the long, hard slog, the unflinching iron belief that no matter what, no matter how long it takes, I
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do it because I have to, one way or the other.
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Post Post #5533 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:40 pm

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I think you can achieve this without ruling via fear and instead ruling with love. Possibly neither though.

Why do you feel you must do it? Why carry the burden yourself?
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Post Post #5534 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:44 pm

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Because the correct path orders me to.

I do rule with love.
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Post Post #5535 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:03 pm

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I think death is too harsh. I'd suggest shunning if it were up to you.
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Post Post #5536 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:36 pm

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Shunning won't remove the evil.
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Post Post #5537 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:38 pm

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If you kill you'll create more evil indirectly.
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Post Post #5538 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:39 pm

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It is at that point you become lawfully evil yourself, you become the villain.
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Post Post #5539 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:55 pm

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In post 5537, Ranmaru wrote:If you kill you'll create more evil indirectly.
No. Killing a bad person creates goodness.
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Post Post #5540 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:03 pm

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define bad person
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Post Post #5541 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:05 pm

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In post 5540, Frozen Angel wrote:define bad person
Someone who doesn't follow the correct path
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Post Post #5542 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:06 pm

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what about reeducation then?

I'm sure a person who you killed can't be reeducated?
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Post Post #5543 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:08 pm

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In post 5542, Frozen Angel wrote:what about reeducation then?

I'm sure a person who you killed can't be reeducated?
They can't go down the wrong path either anymore. So what Accountant is saying works in that sense.
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Post Post #5544 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:32 pm

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In post 5542, Frozen Angel wrote:what about reeducation then?

I'm sure a person who you killed can't be reeducated?
Accountant believes that somebody changing their minds means they have died, because accountant believes that you are your ideas, not your actual living body. So it becomes very hard to understand if they mean the traditional form of "killing" or just "making them think what I think".
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Post Post #5545 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:34 pm

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In post 5544, Shaziro wrote:
In post 5542, Frozen Angel wrote:what about reeducation then?

I'm sure a person who you killed can't be reeducated?
Accountant believes that somebody changing their minds means they have died, because accountant believes that you are your ideas, not your actual living body. So it becomes very hard to understand if they mean the traditional form of "killing" or just "making them think what I think".
Both are good although I prefer the latter
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Post Post #5546 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:35 pm

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In post 5543, Vedith wrote:
In post 5542, Frozen Angel wrote:what about reeducation then?

I'm sure a person who you killed can't be reeducated?
They can't go down the wrong path either anymore. So what Accountant is saying works in that sense.
^^^ this guy gets it
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Post Post #5547 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:36 pm

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what about killing everyone and making your own robo-clones?
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Post Post #5548 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:36 pm

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In post 5547, Frozen Angel wrote:what about killing everyone and making your own robo-clones?
What about it?
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Post Post #5549 (ISO) » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:38 pm

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You're an enemy of humanity at this point forward
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