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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:47 am

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I think Charles deserves it over half the guys in your post. 5.5 per carry is pretty special, and to have played as many snaps as he has with that average makes him a contender in my book.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:02 am

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The tragedy of Aaron Hernandez came to a fitting end. May God have more mercy for you than you showed Odin Lloyd.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:25 am

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In post 201, Bella wrote:The tragedy of Aaron Hernandez came to a fitting end. May God have more mercy for you than you showed Odin Lloyd.
Yeah I didn't expect that. Checked sports news at work around 2am. Not a whole lot there. Guess it happened about an hour after that according to the story that popped up when I turned on my phone. That's pretty crazy.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:19 am

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In post 201, Bella wrote:The tragedy of Aaron Hernandez came to a fitting end. May God have more mercy for you than you showed Odin Lloyd.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:39 am

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Adrian Peterson has signed with the Saints. So much for him wanting to be on a superbowl caliber team. Many fumbles and injuries came with Saints RB Ingram. With Peterson on that team, I expect more fumbles and injuries.

Raiders will have to get Lynch or use the draft to find Murray's replacement.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:54 am

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He(Ingram) only fumbled twice bro. The Saints didn't really need him(AP) so his signing is prob a ticket grabbing attempt in thinking that ppl will want to go watch AP.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:37 am

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Let's do it, put your final mock draft here! If you have any comments, go for it. I originally intended only to comment on a few teams, but ended up commenting on most of the teams.

1. Browns - DE Myles Garrett

I know a lot of people are putting Trubisky here, but I think they ride with Kessler and Co. My bold prediction is that the Browns don't take a QB in the first 3 rounds.

2. 49ers - QB Mitch Trubisky

Unlike other QB needy teams in the draft, this is the only team without even a stop gap option on the roster, so they are taking a QB no matter what (even if Browns decide to throw away Garrett for one).

3. Bears - S Malik Hooker

I don't think any other QB is a 1st round pick, so Bears will take the best player at a position of need and not reach.

4. Jags - DL Jonathan Allen

Taking the best player available, and this is an RB rich draft, they can get one later.

5. Titans - CB Marshawn Lattimore

I think the Titans trade this pick, but whoever ends up with it has Lattimore as the best player on the board. Although leapfrogging the Jets to prevent their next pick is possible too.

6. Jets - QB DeShaun Watson

The Jets shouldn't take a QB...but they probably will take Watson if he's on the board. I think they should get some pieces and give Petty and Hackenburg a real shot with quality players around them, as opposed to drafting Watson so he can also fail in their offense.

7. Chargers - RB Christian McCaffery

He is more like the types of RBs the Chargers do well with, Darren Sproles and Danny Woodhead come to mind.

8. Panthers - RB Lenard Fournette

This is a good fit for the Panthers I think.

9. Bengals - DT Solomon Thomas

They need a big DT, so here they go.

10. Bills - S Jamal Adams

Best player on the board, they take him.

11. Saints - LB Rueben Foster

Best player blah blah blah.

12. Browns - DT Taco Charlton

Best player blah blah blah...still no QB pick.

13. Cardinals - CB Sidney Jones

Cards get the successor to Peterson.

14. Eagles - DE Haason Reddick

There are a couple of DE types on the board here, but I think Reddick being a local kid tips the scales in his favor.

15. Colts - OT Ryan Ramczyk

They need to take a (few) Tackle(s) or Luck is going to die this season.

16. Ravens - WR Mike Williams

I think with the focus on defense early in the draft it'll leave someone like Williams to go to the Ravens. We desperately need a #1 target, and Williams seems like that type of player. I could also see us trading down and collecting a late first and another 2nd. That would probably be best if Williams isn't on the board.

17. Redskins - LB Jabrill Peppers

Best player, blah blah blah.

18. Titans - WR Corey Davis

Mariota needs more weapons if the Titans are going to take a weak AFC South.

19. Bucs - DT Caleb Brantley

Best player blah blah blah

20. Broncos - OL Cam Robertson

I really like his versatility, so an OL needy Broncos will like it too.

21. Lions - DT Malik McDowell

Best player, blah blah blah

22. Dolphins - OT Forrest Lamp

Best player, blah blah blah

23. Giants - RB Dalvin Cook

The Gnats desperately need an RB to compete with the Cowgirls, so I think they take one here, despite needs at other positions, because the top players will be off the board at this point.

24. Raiders - DE Derek Barnett

Best player, blah blah blah

25. Texans - QB Patrick Mahomes

The Texans should not take Mahomes (and really, no one should) but I'm sure they've convinced themselves that they need to take him because he's a Texas guy, and he has the ability to throw a 70 yard 50-50 jump ball. My 2nd bold prediction is someone is getting fired because of this selection at the end of the season.

26. Seahawks - OT Garett Bolles

Although the Seahawks have a history of surprising everyone with a sleeper pick, I think this is the type of player the Seahawks would pick.

27. Chiefs - LB Zach Cunningham

Although I don't think Deshon Kizer (as he is my #2 QB overall) is out of the question as the heir to Alex Smith, but Cunningham is the best player on the board at this point.

28. Cowgirls - CB Marlon Humphrey

Cowgirls will take the best DB on the board.

29. Packers - DE Tim Williams

That defense needs help to balance out Rodgers, Pack needs to start working on it.

30. Steelers - LB Ryan Anderson

Steelers probably start trying to make their defense elite again.

31. Falcons - TE OJ Howard

A lot of people have Howard going really high, but I think most teams have more pressing needs elsewhere. Falcons already have a pretty scary team, why not try to win now by giving Ryan another weapon?

32. Saints - CB Tre'Davious White

A pick I imagine is traded away (maybe someone grabs Kizer here), but if not, Saints take the best DB available to them.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:55 am

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Not a chance the Raiders go DE. I'd like a corner, but I expect to see a linebacker taken with that pick.

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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:47 am

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What part of best player, blah blah blah did you not understand lol?

I'm not really up and up on who's who in college prospects, but I think projections have Jones ready for pre-season.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:51 am

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I'd love Foster to drop to 20 for the Broncos, don't think his outburst is that big a red flag for me. He'd upgrade a major hole in our defense. Other than that Ramczyk or Robinson would be nice, C-Mac as a triple threat, or Njoku/Howard to improve actions. Not sure if any of those actually would be available though, some teams seem high on them.

If those targets are gone, I'd prefer to trade back out of the round and stockpile a couple extra 2nd/3rd rounds to take advantage of the deep draft.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:59 am

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No trade mock cause i don't have time for that shit.

1. CLE - Myles Garret
I think I agree with Warren Sapp, but I doubt the browns do, and I think he'll be the guy in a weak draft.

2. SF - Solomon Thomas
This could be anybody, but I think it should this guy.

3. Chi - Jamal Adams
Weak Draft, Mike Glennon, he's the guy.

4. Jax - Leonard Fournette
They need a running game to help the hapless Blake Bortles

5. Ten - O.J Howard
Weapons for Mariota and he has higher upside imo.

6. NYJ - Malik Hooker
This is the spot most rumored to be a trade(to CLE to grab Trubisky, but if they don't it's best player availible without a recent shoulder injury.

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Best Player available and the chargers are too stupid to care about injuries or good business decisions, they'd prefer Malik Hooker tho.

8. CAR - Christian McCaffery
All reports say they love this kid and he's a playmaker, so I think this is what we're gonna get.

9. CIN - John Ross
They already have AJ Green so Mike Williams is a non-starter, and they wanted Will Fuller last year. They get a better Will Fuller this year. Good things come to those who (are forced to) wait.

10. BUF - Marshon Lattimore
They replace Gilmore with the best corner in the draft.

11. NO - Marlon Humphrey
Better prospect then the pass rushers, so they go DB.

12. CLE - Mitch Trubisky
They will probably get him at 6 and not 12, but he goes here.

13. ARI - Reuben Foster
Cardinals are unphased by guy who have red flags. I think he's the pick despite Reddick having been getting momentum lately.

14. PHI - Derek Barnett
Eagles need an edge rusher. They find one

15. IND - Charles Harris
Next best pass rusher goes to the next team that needs it, although these guys need everything.

16. BAL - Mike Williams
They are more than happy to find that Wallace has dropped to them, the take him with open arms to replace Boldin.

17. WAS - Haasan Reddick
They pick the next LB

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18. adoree jackson cb/kr

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20. Cam Robinson ot

21. J.J Watt's brother

22. Dalvin Cook

23. Jarrad Davis lb

24 Zach Cunningham LB

25. Pat mahommes cause these guys are fucking retarded.

26. Garrett Bolles OT WEEHAH

27. Forrest Lamp g/c

28 that taco guy

29 Joe mixon rb

30 David Njoku TE

31 Jordan Willis LB

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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:34 am

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2017 Mock Draft

1. CLE - Myles Garret, DE, Texas A&M
2. SF - Jamal Adams, S, LSU
3. CHI - Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio St.
4. JAC - Leonard Fortunette, RB, LSU
5. TEN - Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford
6. NYJ - O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
7. LAC
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- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio St.
8. CAR - Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
9. CIN - Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
: I was really unsure where to put Allen. I originally had him going top 5, then dropped him all the way to 17th, and now he's here. Not really sure if he'd fit in with Cincy, but I figured he had to go before #17.
10. BUF - Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
11. NO - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
12. CLE - Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina
: I feel like somebody is probably going to jump or trade up to get a QB earlier, but I'm not really messing with trades, so this seems like a pretty feasible pick, if Trubisky actually lasts this long, just don't really think he will cause people are constantly taking QBs too high.
13. ARI - Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
: I feel like I probably Mahomes going way too high here, but people tend to take QBs too high? So maybe I'll get lucky and be right.
14. PHI - Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
15. IND - Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
16. BAL - Corey Davis, WR, Baltimore
17. WAS - Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
18. TEN - John Ross, WR, Washington
19. TB - Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida St.
20. DEN - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Washington
21. DET - Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
22. MIA - Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
23. NYG - Garett Bolles, OT, Utah
24. OAK - Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
25. HOU - Forrest Lamp, OG, W. Kentucky
26. SEA - Kevin King, CB, Washington
27. KC - Adoree' Jackson, CB, USC
: I feel pretty sure KC is going CB, I have no idea who they'd want out of {Conley, Jackson, White} though, so I just guessed Jackson
28. DAL - Charles Harris, DE, Missouri
: I feel like there's a pretty good chance Harris goes higher, but I couldn't really find anywhere better to put him and I'm really clueless as to who Dallas will take which is kinda funny since they're who I know the most about.
29. GB - T.J. Watt, LB, Wisconsin
30. PIT - Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi
31. ATL - Budda Baker, S, Washington
32. NO - Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
: I think there's a good chance Watson gets taken significantly higher than this, but I'm not very confident in my predicting-where-QBs-will-go skills, so I just put him here.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:17 am

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mock contest picks:

1 Browns: Myles Garrett, Defensive End, Texas A&M
2. 49ers: Solomon Thomas, Defensive End, Stanford
3. Bears: Malik Hooker, Free Safety, Ohio State
4.Jaguars: Leonard Fournette, Running Back, LSU
5 Titans: Mitch Trubisky, Quarterback, North Carolina ---trade spot. didnt bother with whom. just think this is most likely 1st trade spot.
6. Jets: Jamal Adams, Strong Safety, LSU
7 Chargers: Jonathan Allen DT, Alabama
8. Panthers: Marshon Lattimore, Cornerback, Ohio State
9. Bengals: Derek Barnett, Defensive End, Tennessee
10. Bills: Gareon Conley, Cornerback, Ohio State
11. Saints: Reuben Foster, Inside Linebacker, Alabama
12. Browns: O.J. Howard, Tight End, Alabama
13. Cardinals: Quincy Wilson, Cornerback, Florida
14. Eagles: Mike Williams, Wide Receiver, Clemson
15. Colts: Cam Robinson, Offensive Tackle, Alabama
16. Ravens: Charles Harris, Defensive End, Missouri
17. Redskins: Adoree' Jackson, Cornerback, USC
18. Titans: Corey Davis, Wide Receiver, Western Michigan
19. Buccaneers: Christian McCaffrey, Running Back, Stanford
20. Broncos: Ryan Ramcyzk, Offensive Tackle, Wisconsin
21. Lions: Haason Reddick, Outside Linebacker, Temple
22. Dolphins: Forrest Lamp, Offensive Guard, Western Kentucky
23. Giants: Jarrad Davis, Inside Linebacker, Florida
24. Raiders: Zach Cunningham, Outside Linebacker, Vanderbilt
25. Texans: Deshaun Watson, Quarterback, Clemson
26. Seahawks: Garett Bolles, Offensive Tackle, Utah
27. Chiefs: Pat Mahomes, Quarterback, Texas Tech
28. Cowboys: Takkarist McKinley, Outside Linebacker, UCLA
29. Packers: Kevin King, Cornerback, Washington
30. Steelers: David Njoku, Tight End, Miami
31 Falcons: Jordan Willis, Defensive End, Kansas State
32. Saints: Obi Melifonwu, Strong Safety, Connecticut
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:18 am

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i just realized i have hooker down twice wow.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:35 am

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1. Browns - Myles Garrett DE

This is basically already confirmed now. We've mostly expected it all along anyway other than the brief talk of them going QB #1

2. 49ers - Solomon Thomas DE

The talk of the Browns moving up from #12 makes me think they target a QB and think they can get their guy. I think Trubisky is that guy so they probably know something we don't about the 49ers not taking him. Defense makes the most sense if not QB.

3. Bears - Jamal Adams S


4. Jaguars - Leonard Fournette RB

There are rumors floating around about Watson but I just don't see how they pass on Fournette here.

5. Titans - Malik Hooker S

Last I heard is 50/50 chance they trade the pick, but if they don't this is my guess.

6. Jets - Marshon Lattimore CB

As a Raiders fan, I'm jealous of whoever gets him. Great corner.

7. Chargers - Reuben Foster LB

I had OJ Howard here, but changed it.

8. Panthers - Christian Mccaffrey RB


9. Bengals - Johnathan Allen DE

Pretty sure they go defense and he's the best availble.

10. Bills - Marlon Humphrey CB

Corner is a huge need for them. And...half the league. But yeah.

11. Saints - OJ Howard TE

The Saints since 2009 have been at their best when their offense has weapons. After trading Cooks, adding one makes sense.

12. Browns - Mitchell Trubisky QB

They probably trade up to make this happen but they're taking a QB.

13. Cardinals - Haasan Reddick LB

As much as I like the idea of taking Mike Williams with Floyd gone and Fitzgerald aging, I don't think they do it.

14. Eagles - Caleb Brantley DT


15. Colts - Ryan Ramczyk OT


16. Ravens - Mike Williams WR

They get a steal if he drops this far.

17. Redskins - Derek Barnett DE


18. Titans - Corey Davis WR

I know. Boring. But when things are boring, it's usually for a reason.

19. Bucs - Dalvin Cook RB

With Doug Martin yet again unavailible for part of the year, this time due to suspension, RB is a need. They didn't get AP, so they'll address that need here.

20. Broncos - Cam Robinson OL

I know they've added a couple of linemen already, but the line still needs work.

21. Lions - Taco Charleton DE


22. Dolphins - Zach Cunningham LB


23. Giants - Jabrill Peppers DEF

Peppers in an interesting name. Enough said for the Giants?

24. Raiders - Jarrad Davis LB

I've been saying I'd like them to take a corner. But they seem more interested in linebackers.

25. Texans - Patrick Mahomes QB

They seem to like him so even with Watson availible, I think this is what they do.

26. Seahawks - Garett Bolles OT

How can they not go line?

27. Chiefs - Deshaun Watson QB

I think they are fine with Smith but everyone is obsessed with them moving on at some point even if it isn't immediately and with the Heisman winner slipping this far, I say they surprise people.

28. Cowboys - Adoree' Jackson CB

The secondary is by far the biggest weakness on the roster. Here's where they take a step in the right direction.

29. Packers - TJ Watt LB

It just makes too much sense.

30. Steelers - Malik Mcdowell DL


31. Falcons - Tre'Davious White CB

They definitely go defense. Who they take is anyone's guess.

32. Saints - Forrest Lamp OL

Not their biggest need, but he's too good for them to let him slip past round 1.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm

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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:30 pm

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I'm gonna call that 2 for 3.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:35 pm

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I can only imagine being on the 49ers' end of that phone call. I'd probably think it was a prank.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:39 pm

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AND GIVES US THE GUY WE WANT
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:42 pm

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Seriously that's just three Chicago picks going to the 49ers for no reason.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:44 pm

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Actually, they probably thought the Browns were moving to #2 and just wanted Trubisky that badly, but still. What was the point in paying so much for Glennon then?
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:47 pm

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Yeah...

He was probably still gonna be there for their next pick.

This draft...

And only five picks in.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:49 pm

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Oh God are the Redskins really about to send Cousins to Cleveland?
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