2017 NFL Football

[Bella]

During the regular season, Boswell has missed one extra point in 2 seasons (62/63), and is 50/57 over that time, including a single miss under 40 yards. Heinz Field is also notoriously bad for kickers because of the wind (and historically, the shitty playing surface, although they've vastly improved that over the last 5-10 years). That, and the fact that it's mathematically advantageous to go for two more often than conventional, conservative football wisdom (choosing when to go for 2 is Tomlin's strongest area as a football coach, imo) is why the Steelers go for two more than most teams. Kicker isn't a problem there, and the Steelers have bigger needs.

Edit: Also, the Steelers recently re-signed him, so...

[Kmd4390]

If Cruz is going to have another 1,000 yard season, it will be because the WRs ahead of him on a depth chart are hurt.

Jennings' issue with the Giants was simply the offensive line. He isn't anything special anyway, but not many RBs would succeed in NY without being able to catch passes regularly.

Completely agree about Cousins. Best situation for Washington and for Cousins is him re-signing.

[Bella]

Cruz is a slot receiver, he underperformed last season because he was asked to play outside more. In the right kind of offence (the Patriots, for example, where they run 4 receiver sets a lot and orient their offence to making passes in the middle of the field, thus making slot receivers a more important part of their game), he could still put up a 1,000 yard season. On most teams, he's going to be a third option, even if players ahead of him on the depth chart get hurt.

[Rob14]

Cruz could put up a 1,000 yard season with the Patriots if you break Gronk's kneecaps and shoot Edelman in his constantly-hurt foot first. There's no way Cruz would put up more than 750 yards on a healthy Patriots offense. Too many mouths to feed.

[Bella]

I didn't say he could do it on the Patriots, I cited the Patriots offence as an example of the type he could put up 1,000 yards in. Although, rumor has it that Amendola might be cut if he doesn't restructure his contract, and as a bigger receiver than both of them, Belichick and McDaniels are perfectly capable of tweaking their offence to take advantage of that fact. Put together with the fact that Gronk will likely get hurt (he's played the full regular season twice in his career, and hasn't done it for 5 years) and Edelman played 16 games twice in his career, and I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that Cruz could do it.

[PJ.]

I need more tavon Austin in my life.

[Kmd4390]

So is AP about to be a Raider and how should I feel about that possibility?

I kinda think they have other needs they should be focused on:
- re-sign Carr and Mack
- grab a top tier corner
- improve the MLB position
- sign a RT to replace Watson
- consider upgrading at slot WR

Their line is good enough for some no name RB to do fine, so why take a high cost gamble on AP? And if they do want to spend money on the position, why not just bring back Murray? But it's still AP so if he's got something left in the tank, he'd be fun to watch.

I keep hearing Martellus Bennett's name too and it's kind of the same thing. TE isn't a need and he won't come cheap but man is that an upgrade.

Basically I'm confused about how to feel about these names coming up.

One thing I know is I don't want Lacy or Blount. Or even Desean Jackson for the money he wants.

[PJ.]

Do you guys run pro style or are you mostly spread? AP has run 90% of his runs out of traditional pro style sets, so he's "old school". Might be a fit issue.

[Nero Cain]

Raiders should sign Steven Jackson.

[Nero Cain]

Well Romo is about to get cut. :/

[ChrisOrmie]

Broncos fan here. I think we're the favorites for Romo at this stage, but I really don't want him. Our O-Line is so porous that he'll last maybe 2 games before getting injured, plus Siemian would probably be traded to make the room. This means we could have Lynch (not ready yet, second playbook in 2 years...) without any real backup - VERY scary proposition. I'll take Siemian as starter again, Lynch as backup, and I think that's good enough this season to make the playoffs even if we don't go far in them.

Defense is way underrated imho, a D-Line run stopper like Calais Campbell would take away the one weakness I think that group has. Sadly Jacksonville might be leading that chase, but he's a CO native and hoping he wants more than just dollars. Expecting a run-stopping ILB through the draft (r3 possibly) to help out there but apart from that it's a fairly complete setup. The draft is stacked with CB, but that's our strongest position and so hoping other teams take them off the board and leave us to pick a bit more than we could normally.

O-Line is scary. Only worthwhile starter from last year was Matt Paradis, who is coming off two hip surgeries. Need FA here as the draft is weak, so two of Whitworth/Reiff/Zeitler quality would be good for me but probably a bit of a stretch. Probably end up with Okung again if he's willing to take less than he was due to, and need to find a RT. The guards I think we have as the coaching is far superior this year to the past few, and our current players have the talent to make it work. Not going to be an amazing O-Line, but it should keep TS on his feet long enough to make us competitive on offense again - not to mention being able to punch holes for us to get a run game going this year. Take the vets to patch things this year (maybe next) and wait until a better draft class to rebuild the O-Line - only thing that makes sense to me, however I would take Ramczyk at 20 if he's healthy. He might take a year to learn, or could plug in at RT if we don't solve that at FA, but I like his footage and think he'd be a good long-term fit.

Scariest thing is how good Oakland/KC became last season. Think we've now got a good fight on our hands, but should have enough to make the playoffs with a bit of luck.

[xRECKONERx]

WEWWWWW BOY.

yall

the brock osweiller saga is fucking amazing

so the texans dumped him to the browns. brown had a fucking wealth of cap room so they took him to buy a draft pick, basically
browns said they were considering just cutting him
now teams are already reaching out to the browns to figure out his availability

also: Latavius Murray to Seattle (rumor), JT to Dolphins, Alshon to the Eagles? Jesus christ i love free agency

[ChrisOrmie]

WEWWWWW BOY.

yall

the brock osweiller saga is fucking amazing

so the texans dumped him to the browns. brown had a fucking wealth of cap room so they took him to buy a draft pick, basically
browns said they were considering just cutting him
now teams are already reaching out to the browns to figure out his availability

also: Latavius Murray to Seattle (rumor), JT to Dolphins, Alshon to the Eagles? Jesus christ i love free agency

Hahahaha love this! Houston needed to dump that contract so badly - they paid through the nose to get him, and again to drop him!

Also seems that they now lead the race for Romo. Happy about that too. Calais Campbell chase is still not over by some reports, he's the only FA I really want badly at this stage.

[Nero Cain]

Chris I agree with you about Denver.

[Nero Cain]

though if Romo does go anywhere it'll be the Texans.

[xRECKONERx]

yeah and i can't wait to see how much they overpay for him

[Nero Cain]

^

[PJ.]

The most interesting thing about the Osweiler thing is that I'm surprised it doesn't happen(in football) more often, because it's a textbook basketball trade - bad teams taking on bad contracts for assets. And maybe giving up a decent veteren with a better contract in return.

[PokerFace]

Yay romo to Texans seems most likely now. Hopkins should be happy

[shaft.ed]

The most interesting thing about the Osweiler thing is that I'm surprised it doesn't happen(in football) more often, because it's a textbook basketball trade - bad teams taking on bad contracts for assets. And maybe giving up a decent veteren with a better contract in return.

football contracts have much less gauranteed money in them if I recall correctly

[PJ.]

Well basketball contracts are 100 percent guaranteed. But still think back to any bad qb that got a second contract basically ever. All of those guys put their teams in 8 digit holes whether they played or got cut.

[T-Bone]

Why did the Saints want to trade Cooks so badly?

[Nero Cain]

Why did the Saints want to trade Cooks so badly?

they have an over abundance on offense and need defense?

[Nero Cain]

just read about it, supposedly Cooks was unhappy.

[PJ.]

Makes sense, underutilized.