2017 NFL Football

[TwoInAMillion]

JAX vs. MIN Super bowl.

[Bella]

I'm surprised the NFL hasn't announced it's investigating the end of the Vikings/Saints game because of the kneel down on the extra point at the end, to be honest. After all, it made a significant difference to the fate of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars worth of bets, and people have been convicted of fixing much smaller things in other sports. It's the kind of decision that warrants some kind of check that it's on the up and up. Also, Goodell hasn't come down hard on someone without evidence or justification recently, and this seems the perfect opportunity to wrongly screw someone.

This seems completely reasonable tbh. I hadn't thought about it before, but that kneel could definitely have been dirty

I'm not saying it was - I just think they wanted to get the fuck out of there because the game was over but the extra point was mandatory - but given the documented evidence of how poorly players manage their money and how relatively low-paid specialists and special teams players are (and some coaches, for that matter, especially compared to the top college equivalents), it's totally believable that something nefarious could have gone on. Especially because it didn't affect the outcome of the game, just whether they covered the spread or not.

[drealmerz7]

it's stupid that in a situation like that that kicking the extra point is mandatory, and the only reason it makes sense that it is mandatory is to support the betting world, which is fucking terrible

it should be done away with

a walk-off win at 0 seconds is a WALK-OFF WIN

[shaft.ed]

McAdoo interviewing in Cleveland
could there be a more perfect pairing?

[BROseidon]

Might as well keep Cleveland a joak.

[PJ.]

I'm surprised the NFL hasn't announced it's investigating the end of the Vikings/Saints game because of the kneel down on the extra point at the end, to be honest. After all, it made a significant difference to the fate of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars worth of bets, and people have been convicted of fixing much smaller things in other sports. It's the kind of decision that warrants some kind of check that it's on the up and up. Also, Goodell hasn't come down hard on someone without evidence or justification recently, and this seems the perfect opportunity to wrongly screw someone.

This seems completely reasonable tbh. I hadn't thought about it before, but that kneel could definitely have been dirty

I'm not saying it was - I just think they wanted to get the fuck out of there because the game was over but the extra point was mandatory - but given the documented evidence of how poorly players manage their money and how relatively low-paid specialists and special teams players are (and some coaches, for that matter, especially compared to the top college equivalents), it's totally believable that something nefarious could have gone on. Especially because it didn't affect the outcome of the game, just whether they covered the spread or not.

Right, I'm not saying it for sure was either, just that I see your point and share your surprise that no one has looked into it yet.

[PJ.]

Also, why are field goal%s so much higher today than they were 20 years ago?

[drealmerz7]

Also, why are field goal%s so much higher today than they were 20 years ago?

a passing guess would be turf quality

[SleepyKrew]

the ball is juiced

[racefan12]

Also, why are field goal%s so much higher today than they were 20 years ago?

It doesn't go much into the why, but FiveThirtyEight wrote about this phenomenon a while back.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think the Vikings would risk a dirty play given their lack of playoff success.

[PokerFace]

If the extra point/two point conversion play had resulted in a fumble, most point saints could get would be 2 points with the game ending 29-26. If the extra point/two point had been successful it could have been 30-24 or 31-24. The play after the score could not effect the outcome, only effect gambling results. An investigation into these items could happen but it would be hard to prove a lot. Its unlikely but still possible a player could have gotten injured on the play after the score. So kneeling down is the right call to keep healthy and not pile on the points against the Saints.

[SleepyKrew]

how come delay of game wasn't called
investigate the refs

[drealmerz7]

who are you going to call delay of game on? the media?

[Iprobablysuck]

flyyyy eagles flyy, on the road to victory

[Nero Cain]

Also, why are field goal%s so much higher today than they were 20 years ago?

It doesn't go much into the why, but FiveThirtyEight wrote about this phenomenon a while back.

I

skimmed

this article and ped's are a very plausible thing but advancements in nutrition and the like (workouts?) resulting in stronger legs is my guess.

[PJ.]

Dude...PEDs existed in 91 and so did squats.

I'm okay with like "guys eat better,train harder so their kicks go further" but like...they aren't going THAT much further, they're just going in more. They are going straighter. In 1990(the year of wide right) 69% was good enough for 22nd in the league. 22nd in the league last year was 80%.

[drealmerz7]

Also, why are field goal%s so much higher today than they were 20 years ago?

a passing guess would be turf quality

also possibly more indoor stadiums meaning less weather factors

[PJ.]

is it really more indoor stadiums tho? I think it might actually be the opposite.

[racefan12]

The tl;dr of the article I linked is that the rate of kicker improvement is virtually unchanged since at least the 1960s, so that would rule out trends that have only been happening for the last 20 years or so.

[Thestatusquo]

The browns are thinking of hiring mcadoo as their OC because of course they are.

[Iprobablysuck]

lolbrowns. I take back what I said about Buffalo, they're WAY better

[drealmerz7]

McAdon't

[PokerFace]

Wasn't mcadoo in charge of play calling or running some parts of the Giantas Offense during the year, and then he quit doing that part for some reason? Interviewing him is dumb for many reasons. I really hope Browns do not hire him.

[drealmerz7]

he did lots of really stupid stuff, I couldn't believe he was a coach, I can't believe they let him coach for as long as they did, he's one of the worst coaches I've seen in the past 20+ years I think?