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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:02 pm

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Can Joe Buck be gone next?
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:03 pm

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In post 124, T-Bone wrote:Do you think a player can't hire a prostitute in Tallahassee?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:31 pm

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In post 151, AGar wrote:
In post 124, T-Bone wrote:Do you think a player can't hire a prostitute in Tallahassee?
Have you BEEN to Tallahassee? There ain't shit there, brah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_University

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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:44 pm

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Given Romo recent seasons this is probably for the best for him. He's about to have a 3rd kid so I'm sure he wants to be healthy to do stuff with that child and the others

Poor Houston. They didn't want to trade for Romo so when Jerry opened the gates for other GMs and coaches to contact Tony, Houston didn't call. They didn't want to tip their hand that far, but it was obvious they were interested and should have scheduled at least a work out. What will Houston do now? Get Jimmy G.? Draft a QB? Call Minnesota about Bridgewater or Bradford?

I know a guy who knows the Houston system and may be available to play since Browns might not want him...
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:22 am

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Thing is, I think Romo was a good QB and is hall material. Him not winning a SB prob keeps him out and it makes me feel bad for him.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:24 am

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Romo had great stats, but he was never able to win when it counted, which is going to keep him out. His constant late December/postseason flubs will really hurt his chances with the voters.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:26 am

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He'd have to be in Marino's league
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:29 am

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I'd put him in. He had a solid career individually speaking. The HOF is for players, not teams. I don't hold it against him that he was never a part of a Super Bowl team. If that mattered, it's hypocritical to put Marino in and not at least consider Romo. If Eli (two rings) is in for sure and he probably is, Romo needs to be in too because he was a better QB. I'd also like to see Rivers get in.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:02 am

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Lynch visited the Raiders today, I'm seeing several sources say that he wants it to happen. It's up to Del Rio at this point.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:09 pm

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romo not close to a HOF QB wtf.

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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:11 pm

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why?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:30 pm

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Brady pass % 63.8
Romo pass % 65.3

Brady total passing yards 61,582
Romo total passing yards 34,183

Brady passing TDs 456
Romo passing TDs 248

Brady QB rating 97.2
Romo QB rating 97.1

Accuracy and QB rating are similar. Brady obviously has more yards and TDs but he's played like 14 full seasons to Romo's 7*

I could see Romo
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get in the hall b/c his stats are lowish and the "what if" question prob has no place in a hall debate.


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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:08 pm

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lol @ Romo getting sacked as many times as he's thrown touchdowns. probs why he was often hurt.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:33 am

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Romo doesn't have the stats to back up a Hall of Fame bid. He could get in the Hall in a weak class, but I don't think he'll get there.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:35 am

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Tony Romo was the MVP for every game the Cowboys had to play in December with playoff implications. It's a shame he was the MVP for the other team though.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:41 pm

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Yeah, if Romo had played another 5 years or so at a similar level, you could make a pretty good Hall of Fame case for him. As it is now though, no way.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:36 pm

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QB A: 124 starts, 65.5% completions, 32344 yds, 208tds, 128ints, 260 sacks, n/ya7.08, 93.7 rate. 1 ring, 4 pro bowls, 2 all pros, 2 MVPs.

QB B: 156 starts, 65.3% completions, 34183 yds, 248 tds, 117 ints, 248 sacks, n/ya 7.09, 97.7 rate, 4 pro bowls.

QB C: 169 starts, 65.3% completions, 33124 yds, 232tds, 107 ints, 356 sacks, ny/a 6.89, 96.8 rate 3 sbs, 3 all-pros, 7 pro bowls.

Would you rather have A, B, or C? (Don't cheat and Google it, you cheeky fucks)

Only caveat I'll add is players A and C won all their accolades (mvps, sbs, all-pros) prior to 4 of the best QBs of all time starting their careers, player B did not have that luxury.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:43 pm

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Now I'm trying to figure out who they are :lol: I have some ideas, but I think based on the stats alone I'd rather take B. He may not have the rings or accolades, but his stats are better overall.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:45 pm

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I added a 3rd option.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:30 am

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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:22 am

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really depends on the era
are they all playing at the same time
Also I know which one is Romo because every article must mention his QB rating
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:29 am

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With the 3rd option added I'd take C.

I don't know if those comparisons are really fair though - Romo had the fortune of playing in the most pass heavy eras in NFL history. His stats are going to be inflated for those reasons alone.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:57 pm

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If youre putting Romo in the hall you gotta add about the 15-20 other qbs that were all better than him during his career. (might be a slight exaggeration, but could also not be! I havent looked at numbers for this!)

He's not even close baby. Guy was always overrated just cause he came from a small school.

Yeah he was good for a few years but nah.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:59 pm

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A is Hall of Fame Quarterback Kurt Warner. C is Steve Young. B is Romo.

Romo's stats are straight up better than Warner's, but Warner had the benefit of winning 2 MVPs(and All-Pros) while Peyton was very very young and Brady's first year was Warner's second mvp year. The top 5 QBS statistically in 1999: Warner, Steve Beuerlein, Jeff George, Sophomore Peyton Manning, Brad "second worse SB QB ever" Johnson. 2001, the competition wasn't much stiffer; Warner, Gannon, fucking jeff garcia, farve, Steve McNair.

Let's go to Romo's best 2 years, 2014 and 2011. Romo had a better QBR and Passer Rating than anyone and threw further on average than 3 of 4 of his fellow top 5 QBs. Those QBs? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, PRIME Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees. All surefire Hall of Famers, and possibly the 4 best ever I might add. In 2011, same top 5 prescence among 3 of the same names, except EVEN MORE IN THEIR PRIME(Matt Stafford in the 5th spot due to Peyton being out with a broken frickin neck).

If Romo's prime was 10 years earlier, he'd have easily surpassed Warner's numbers. Oh, and might I add, he's basically had no help at WR. Arguably Miles Austin is the best guy he ever threw to unless you are putting a lot of weight on like...all 8 healthy games Dez Bryant had or are gonna say his real best receiver was Jason Witten, which probably helps prove my point. His passing stats aren't that far from(and also kind better than) Hall of Famers with similar career lengths. I'm not saying he's in, but I'm saying the conversation isn't as ridiculous as people are making it seem because he's Tony Romo.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:23 am

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I feel like TO was a better WR than Miles Austin. Hell, Patrick Crayton probably was too
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