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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu May 04, 2017 5:31 am

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Also think the SNP will lose Aberdeenshire seats, what with the farmers and fishermen here.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 6:35 am

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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 6:46 am

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hoooooo boy were the council results.......not good
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 6:47 am

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ukip are now even more irrelevant so that's good?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 7:52 am

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They got brexit. No need to vote for the kooks anymore.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 10:08 am

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friend's comment:
Blatant anti-Corbyn bias from the electorate in today's results.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 10:19 am

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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:13 am

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This is the good stuff.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 80, zoraster wrote:friend's comment:
Blatant anti-Corbyn bias from the electorate in today's results.
I will say that their vote barely changed from 4 years ago. Which is a problem. But this is more a ukip collapse election than labour collapse.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:21 am

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But it's worth mentioning that these are comsitituencies that generally skew conservative. And so there's not as many votes to lose. And the places the votes have been lost are in marginals, where they've been lost substantially.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:35 am

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Yeah... I'm not sure I buy that.

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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 12:29 pm

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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 4:09 pm

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In first past the post that is literally how it works. Third parties act as spoilers for other parties. This isn't a revolutionary theory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-39799138 No 1 part says John Curtice projects CON 38%, LAB 27%. Vs last election where he projected CON 25%, LAB 29% ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22382098 ).

Same guys predictions, but a ukip collapse in between.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 4:20 pm

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So basically either we claim that ukip voters have seeped to labour and tories in equal portion as labour voters have seeped away to the tories. Or we say that ukip voters have tended to switch to conservative.

Without any evidence to the contrary, ockhams razor/fewer assumptions seems right. Especially given then similarity between the two party's platform.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 4:54 pm

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the ukip collapse is definitely on lol........it's like if this were AV but only for the right wing
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 5:05 pm

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In post 88, Max wrote:So basically either we claim that ukip voters have seeped to labour and tories in equal portion as labour voters have seeped away to the tories. Or we say that ukip voters have tended to switch to conservative.

Without any evidence to the contrary, ockhams razor/fewer assumptions seems right. Especially given then similarity between the two party's platform.
Well, what's your argument then? That Labour is going to surprise us all and actually contest the election in June?

I fully accept that the Tories have captured Ukip. But they've also managed to hold onto their other flank while putting out policies to absorb Ukip. And Labour has not been position to do anything at all because Labour's leadership are incompetent nincompoops who deserve to lose.

Like for real. Think about where we were sitting a year ago. None of the Tory leadership wanted Brexit. Lots of tory membership didn't want it either. And yet here we are with a Tory leadership that is gung-ho for hard brexit and they've lost literally no one in their tent. In large part that's because there's no credible opposition party.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 5:33 pm

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also obsessed that scotland and wales i think it is? use STV for councils lmao
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 5:41 pm

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also the supplementary vote being used ANYWHERE is a disgrace
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 6:00 pm

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You said you don't buy that labour haven't really lost vote share. I gave you the exact opposite evidence.

Labour is going to lose, you won't have arguments there. But Labour didn't really lose votes vs 4 years ago. Only a 2% loss. Which as I said, was mostly in marginal constituencies, which is bad for labour.

Remember, only 15% of the electorate have heard the strong and stable slogan so far. Despite the fact it has been said about 20 times in every speech she's given. There's still a lot of bouncing around to happen in the people who pay irregular political attention. (Which may be good or bad for basically anyone)
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 7:16 pm

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A 2 point reduction is a 7% reduction in their vote share.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri May 05, 2017 11:06 pm

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In post 78, Nexus wrote:ukip are now even more irrelevant so that's good?
Well, the conservatives shifted to their side. UKIP might become irrelevant, but their points became more mainstream.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat May 06, 2017 4:01 am

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In post 95, mykonian wrote:
In post 78, Nexus wrote:ukip are now even more irrelevant so that's good?
Well, the conservatives shifted to their side. UKIP might become irrelevant, but their points became more mainstream.
Basically exactly what happened with the Tea Party over here
UKIP ate the Torries not the other way around
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun May 07, 2017 9:40 am

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dw labour is saved
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun May 07, 2017 2:39 pm

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In post 76, AniX wrote:
In post 97, Randomnamechange wrote:
dw labour is saved
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun May 07, 2017 2:42 pm

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Great video random
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