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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:01 pm

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I am working with the Omerta team to design a new homepage for mafiascum.net. We would like to receive some feedback from the community.

We have two designs in mind:

The first:

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The second is a similar design but without the blood:

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The first design adds an interesting element to it by adding some blood to the homepage. However, I am concerned about how it may look to others and would like some feedback from the general community in relation to this.

I am almost finished the coding and we are hoping to have this finished by the end of next week.

Many thanks to Aubery for designing the blood stains. I have enjoyed working with you, Kison, and ConnerJC

Note: I originally posted a similar topic in Site Feedback, but since that topic gets very little traffic, I am moving the discussion to here.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:11 pm

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broken images, need a slack account to see them
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:15 pm

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Fixed. Try again
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:43 pm

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I like the blood
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:51 pm

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Would the work on phpbb
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:52 pm

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In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:Would the work on phpbb
It's replacing the current homepage which uses HTML and CSS.

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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:46 am

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blood looks cool, and it makes it look like a video game.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:49 am

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I think it looking like a video game is a bad point.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:03 am

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As much as I like the blood, think it'd probably be better for overall appeal without it.

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:06 am

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In post 8, Katsuki wrote:As much as I like the blood, think it'd probably be better for overall appeal without it.

nice avatar btw
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 8, Katsuki wrote:As much as I like the blood, think it'd probably be better for overall appeal without it.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:49 am

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Designing, and working with these peeps has been amazing. We're working really hard to amp up the home page. Give it a good face lift. While I like both designs that I've designed, and the team has coded, I am in favor of the blood just to add some salt & pepper to the overall design. We're currently having some issues with the blood element in the coding aspect, but potentially looking into methods to fix those coding issues. That being said I'm going to challenge some of the points presented.
In post 7, chamber wrote:I think it looking like a video game is a bad point.
Why? Think of the demographic that you usually see on the site, and what their interests usually are. Seems fitting to me, unless we have way different ideas of the demographic. Besides, it works in conjunction with the night kill element you deal with in the game. Basically the landing page is a selling page. The game itself has no interesting visuals, so why not give it some.
In post 8, Katsuki wrote:As much as I like the blood, think it'd probably be better for overall appeal without it.
So blood is a no no, but a man holding a gun pointed at someone is A-okay?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:53 am

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because the game has no visuals is why you don't want to sell it with them. But I also don't think the violent imagery is good to lead with.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:55 am

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.....So books basically shouldn't have a cover to sell the imageless story inside?

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A man holding a gun (your original image, but now brightened) is as violent as the new image I'd argue. One shows he is going to kill someone, and the other shows the deed is finished.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:08 am

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From Slack:

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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:10 am

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We gave feedback in sitechat about the blood without being given the option without.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:16 am

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In post 15, chamber wrote:We gave feedback in sitechat about the blood without being given the option without.
Fair enough. Personally, I think it adds a good touch to the site. It certainly feels "Mafia"-like.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:16 am

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I mean, there ARE users under 13 on this site, and I don't think some parents would be okay with their children seeing such a gruesome image.

It does look neat though.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:22 am

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There are very few users under 13 on the site. If parents don't have an issue with them playing games about lynching and killing, then they shouldn't have an issue with the blood. That's just my opinion.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:23 am

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It adds some much needed balance to the page. I don't think it looks bad. I still think it should be excluded and that those things should be achieved someway else.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:30 am

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In post 11, Aubrey wrote:Designing, and working with these peeps has been amazing. We're working really hard to amp up the home page. Give it a good face lift. While I like both designs that I've designed, and the team has coded, I am in favor of the blood just to add some salt & pepper to the overall design. We're currently having some issues with the blood element in the coding aspect, but potentially looking into methods to fix those coding issues. That being said I'm going to challenge some of the points presented.
In post 7, chamber wrote:I think it looking like a video game is a bad point.
Why? Think of the demographic that you usually see on the site, and what their interests usually are. Seems fitting to me, unless we have way different ideas of the demographic. Besides, it works in conjunction with the night kill element you deal with in the game. Basically the landing page is a selling page. The game itself has no interesting visuals, so why not give it some.
In post 8, Katsuki wrote:As much as I like the blood, think it'd probably be better for overall appeal without it.
So blood is a no no, but a man holding a gun pointed at someone is A-okay?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:27 pm

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what about a chalk outline instead

or is that too generic
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:41 pm

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a) Let's be honest here, if someone has issues with the fact the blood (which is a part of LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN) and not the fact that a gun is
obviously
being pointed at someone off-screen, there's a problem with the person, not the image. Hell, basically every game ever that has a rating of E10+ or T (in ESRB ratings) or 13+ tends to have fictional violence, and several tend to have fictional blood too.

b) The first image is better, but I think that's actually more to do with the background lighting than it is the blood. I can't entirely see the guy in image #2.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:59 pm

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is he pointing it at someone offscreen? I never envisioned that before.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 18, ThinkBig wrote:There are very few users under 13 on the site. If parents don't have an issue with them playing games about lynching and killing, then they shouldn't have an issue with the blood. That's just my opinion.
Yeah, basically. I'm not saying you have to like it, but if you can't
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In post 23, chamber wrote:is he pointing it at someone offscreen? I never envisioned that before.
I thought the blood was supposed to be coming from somebody offscreen that got shot, but maybe that's just me.
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