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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 2:47 am

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Also, not to go into full on negative nancy mode; but is there any actual evidence that is a great football coach instead of a guy who got lucky with a bunch of superstars on rookie contracts and his GM was allowed to ape shit in free agency for defensive stars AND depth - including a star QB that was being paid less than a million dollars a year?
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 3:58 am

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In post 125, PJ. wrote:a bunch of superstars on rookie contracts and his GM was allowed to ape shit in free agency for defensive stars AND depth - including a star QB that was being paid less than a million dollars a year?
Basically how the Eagles were built
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:31 am

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The Cards are a decent team in an incredibly tough division. Their record will be much worse than their actual quality of play.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 5:40 am

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See that's my point. They were a "decent team in an incredibly tough division" LAST YEAR. They finished 8-8. The thing that makes it a little harder to project is the NFC West plays two other incredibly tough divisions next year: The AFC West and the NFC North. Much tougher than the NFC east and the AFC South.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:24 am

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Huh, I thought palmer went out much later in the season. Arizonas schedule will be tougher this year. And they have a coaching change. At some point Bradford injuries will come unless Rosen wins the job before that happens. So I'll revise to

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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:54 am

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I think we should all secretly be accounting for Rosen being the greatest Quarterback ever.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 126, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 125, PJ. wrote:a bunch of superstars on rookie contracts and his GM was allowed to ape shit in free agency for defensive stars AND depth - including a star QB that was being paid less than a million dollars a year?
Basically how the Eagles were built
Right, there's kinda only two ways to win in sports with a cap nowadays, either nail draft picks and load up in free agency(2015 GSW, Seattle, Philly) or have generational talent on sweetheart deals (Pats, current GSW). You can opt for a combination of 1 and 2 (Spurs).

There's only one other proven way but it's not applicable in the NFL
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 8:44 am

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Alternatively: outcoach the fuck out of other teams and get a bit lucky.

Parity is good because it makes things entertaining over a long term, but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 8:45 am

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Also fuck the Pats
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 8:53 am

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In post 132, BROseidon wrote:but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.
well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 134, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 132, BROseidon wrote:but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.
well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick
True. I mostly watch MLS where that isn't an issue because players can go to other places to make more.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 10:55 am

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 11:04 am

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In post 135, BROseidon wrote:
In post 134, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 132, BROseidon wrote:but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.
well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick
True. I mostly watch MLS where that isn't an issue because players can go to other places to make more.
This seems a lot like willful ignorance given the players that make up the MLS.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 11:10 am

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In post 136, BBmolla wrote:/in for fantasy league

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We are a few months away and there'll be a separate thread for it. There will be links in the OP once they open and I'm pretty sure that someone will send out a pm.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 137, PJ. wrote:
In post 135, BROseidon wrote:
In post 134, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 132, BROseidon wrote:but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.
well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick
True. I mostly watch MLS where that isn't an issue because players can go to other places to make more.
This seems a lot like willful ignorance given the players that make up the MLS.
If they are good enough to earn more elsewhere, they can. A number of American players make artificially more by being in the MLS relative to what they made in Europe (Altidore, Bradley, etc)
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A decent MLS player can play in the 2 bundesliga or championship (on a mid-table team)
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 3:52 pm

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In post 130, PJ. wrote:I think we should all secretly be accounting for Rosen being the greatest Quarterback ever.

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In post 140, BROseidon wrote:A decent MLS player can play in the 2 bundesliga or championship (on a mid-table team)

also this is accurate.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 3:57 pm

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In post 141, pickemgenius wrote:
In post 130, PJ. wrote:I think we should all secretly be accounting for Rosen being the greatest Quarterback ever.

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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 7:11 pm

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Yo, I'm looking at the schedule, we might win 1 game.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:44 am

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The real question is:
Which will happen first, Bradford gets injured or Rosen wins the job by skill?

Bradford could go down at any time. Preseason or regular season. I kinda think that will happen first
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 2:50 am

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Look, I feel like every QB with a modicum of talent comes in, plays pretty well early, defenses adjust to them during the offseason. That's why there's a Sophomore slump.

I'm not sold on Garropolo being the next Aaron Rodgers, and think he may be closer to the next Dak Prescott.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 7:18 am

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In post 138, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 136, BBmolla wrote:/in for fantasy league

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We are a few months away and there'll be a separate thread for it. There will be links in the OP once they open and I'm pretty sure that someone will send out a pm.
Thread usually goes up in mish mash in a month, month and a half. Someone will hopefully remember and give you a poke when it does.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 7:23 am

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In post 119, TwoInAMillion wrote:We still have Dion Jordan, Bobby Wagner, Shaquil Griffin, Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, and Kam Chancellor on defense. That would be decent by most people's standards. I bet we are still in the top half of the league. And since the whole offense is build around Russell Wilson I don't think the OLine is the highest priority. You can't have everything.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 9:23 am

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In post 146, brassherald wrote:Look, I feel like every QB with a modicum of talent comes in, plays pretty well early, defenses adjust to them during the offseason. That's why there's a Sophomore slump.
good posting

Bradford is pretty good. I mean, I could see him being rusty with his latest injury but if he's like he was with the Vikes early season I don't really see Rosen replacing him.
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