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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:19 pm

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Jets actually did a good thing :D
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:26 pm

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Negative. Darnold sucks. Josh Allen also sucks. Mayfield is good but everything about Cleveland sucks so he'll sick too.

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:08 am

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Fuck the NFL and Goodell for the way they exploited Ryan Shazier, btw, and also fuck the Steelers for slapping him in the face while they did it. I'm glad he's progressing, and that's great for him. I sincerely hope he's able to make as full a recovery as possible But watching a young man who should be in the prime of his life struggle to walk the short period just so the NFL can get a heartwarming moment during their draft and stop everyone from booing that ratfuck Goodell for five fucking seconds and then slapping him in the face by having to announce the guy who's supposed to take the job he loved? That's fucking low. Fuck everyone involved in that with the exception of Shazier. Also Edmunds, I guess. But everyone else can get fucked.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:47 am

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What if, I don't know, Shazier actually wanted to walk out and announce the pick? Kinda overreacting and showing your steelers hate right now.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:20 am

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I mean did you also get upset when the little kid in the wheelchair announced a pick (forgot who it was for)?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:31 am

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Denver I think
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:52 am

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@scot, I think you're missing the point.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:04 am

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Nah there isn't a point. This was clearly Shazier's idea. Are the Steelers supposed to tell him no, don't do something he clearly wanted to do?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:08 am

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I missed it so I may not quite understand the big deal but the brought out Shazier for a feel-good moment and?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:13 am

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In post 57, scotmany12 wrote:This was clearly Shazier's idea
We don't know that and I doubt that anyways but I don't see anything wrong with it, its just Bellas Goodell hate.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:21 am

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Shazier has made quite a few public appearances over the past few months (Penguins games, march madness, Ohio state pro day). Maybe not solely his idea but he was clearly okay with this and wanted to walk out there. He isn't being exploited at all. Edmunds also isn't a replacement for Shazier at all. He's a hybrid type player in the same way as Deonne Buchannon.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:53 am

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I did not watch any of the NFL draft last night, so I have no clue what anyone is talking about,
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:56 am

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In post 61, brassherald wrote:I did not watch any of the NFL draft last night, so I have no clue what anyone is talking about,
Ryan Shazier walked up to announce his team's pick.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:16 am

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In post 62, D3f3nd3r wrote:
In post 61, brassherald wrote:I did not watch any of the NFL draft last night, so I have no clue what anyone is talking about,
Ryan Shazier walked up to announce his team's pick.
Oh, that's actually a nice gesture, to me. Not everything that's sentimental is ruled by greed.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:00 am

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Last year I was okay to proud of Browns draft. They still lost it all

This year I am not a fan of Mayfield and Ward round 1. I think we should have got Chubb with the 4th pick. Maybe if I disappointed in the draft, its a good thing?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:52 am

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No, it's a mostly a bad thing. They had 3 QBs that they liked reportedly, and the decision was very close. If that was really the case, Barkley should have been 1. Because even if that audibles the Giants into a QB(which it probably wouldn't have, they probably would have taken the Guard), you still get one of your 3 guys. Best thing is that you didn't add Allen to the very long jersey despite your team liking him a lot.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:28 pm

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Whats the rub on Mayfield?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:55 pm

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He's short, if that's what you mean by rub. But he also was prolific in college and played well against elite opposition(even if you say his conference shit he hung a shit ton of points on Georgia). I feel if he fails it's on Cleveland, not him.

I think they made the right call given the guys they liked (they liked the wrong guys), but it's simply an issue of perceived value. Barkley is widely panned as a generational talent, and the Browns reportedly thought it was fairly even between their 3 guys, so if you take the 1 of 1, you still are gonna get 1 of your 3 QB prospects no matter what and would likely get a choice of 2 of the 3, given the Giants don't seem interested in a QB this year.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:10 pm

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On top of that they slightly reached for a corner in a pretty loaded db class.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:20 pm

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I've got nothing against Mayfield but the record for Heisman Trophy winners as #1 overall picks is not good.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:02 pm

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i enjoyed the Eagles drafting a guy named Dallas after Akers gave that speech
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:35 pm

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This whole "Mayfield is short" thing is dumb. Last year, Russell Wilson, who I remind you, was considered too short to play QB, put up ridiculously good stats.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:37 pm

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Winston, Newton, Bradford, Palmer...all heisman trophy winners picked #1. None have yet to win a Super Bowl.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 72, TwoInAMillion wrote:Winston, Newton, Bradford, Palmer...all heisman trophy winners picked #1. None have yet to win a Super Bowl.
1 of those guys was really good though. And 1 of them is currently really good. The other the jury is still out on. And Bradford is an above average starter when he isn't hurt.

And in 17 years only 10 QBs have won a super bowl. In 13 in 20. 7 of those 13 are either in the Hall of Fame or guaranteed to be in the Hall of Fame. It's a very weird thing to measure success solely by whether or not you won a super bowl or not.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:53 pm

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In post 73, PJ. wrote:
In post 72, TwoInAMillion wrote:Winston, Newton, Bradford, Palmer...all heisman trophy winners picked #1. None have yet to win a Super Bowl.
1 of those guys was really good though. And 1 of them is currently really good. The other the jury is still out on. And Bradford is an above average starter when he isn't hurt.

And in 17 years only 10 QBs have won a super bowl. In 13 in 20. 7 of those 13 are either in the Hall of Fame or guaranteed to be in the Hall of Fame. It's a very weird thing to measure success solely by whether or not you won a super bowl or not.

I'm pretty sure Cleveland wants to win a Super Bowl. Maybe I'm wrong.
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