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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:53 am
by zoraster
In post 73, Aristophanes wrote:48 is an awful lot, but if that is the way they are splitting it it's kinda nice. I was thinking they'd do like 8 groups of 6 or something and was trying to figure out how that would work!
Also travel time is going to be a bitch! Like, split country games is alright is some cases like Korea/Japan, but like, if a team has a game in Mexico and the next one in Canada it's really going to hinder them, unlike a team who was already in Canada amd doesn't have to fly up! Or if they have a game in the east thn the west (or vice versa) timezones will screw them up!
This should be very interesting.
The flights from New York to Los Angeles are likely longer than the flights from Mexico to Canada. Mexico City to Montreal is a 5 hour flight. It obviously would take a long time if teams were flying commercial and had to connect, but they'll charter planes and go direct.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:58 am
by Aristophanes
Oh yeah, I forgot FIFA is filthy rich for a minute
Maybe this is less of a factor than I think, it just seems like they're likely to spend all their time commuting and end up jet lagged.
I've been wrong before though!
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:03 am
by Bella
On a more important point, lol @ Spain.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:21 am
by Not_Mafia
I’d sooner have 24 than 48 tbh
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 am
by shaft.ed
yeah i think this is just a play to get major markets assuredly into the tourney
lot more money to be made if places like US and China are always playing
also avoids the upsets of losing out major teams like Netherlands and Italy
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:31 am
by zoraster
It's certainly to get more money, but in this case I think that aligns with a good result otherwise.
I don't really see a reduction in teams as making for a better competition, honestly.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 am
by Aristophanes
Yeah, fewer teams would suck and I could totally see goid teams getting snuffed if they did that!
Also on the North American ones, will all 3 countries be guaranteed a spot? Usually the host country gets their team in automatically, but with 3 hosts how does that work??
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:15 am
by zoraster
I believe all countries will be, but at least in the original proposal for increasing teams, auto-qualification will take away from their region. For Mexico and the US that's likely not going to have taken away a spot (although as we've seen this year it's not impossible!) from another team, but Canada might. Still, even if you thought that all 3 hosting teams wouldn't have qualified, the same number of teams as compared to the 32 team version will qualify from CONCAAF.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:23 am
by Bins
WAIT IS CANADA GETTING A TEAM
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:25 am
by zoraster
yes. They're an expansion country.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:44 am
by shaft.ed
In post 75, zoraster wrote: In post 73, Aristophanes wrote:48 is an awful lot, but if that is the way they are splitting it it's kinda nice. I was thinking they'd do like 8 groups of 6 or something and was trying to figure out how that would work!
Also travel time is going to be a bitch! Like, split country games is alright is some cases like Korea/Japan, but like, if a team has a game in Mexico and the next one in Canada it's really going to hinder them, unlike a team who was already in Canada amd doesn't have to fly up! Or if they have a game in the east thn the west (or vice versa) timezones will screw them up!
This should be very interesting.
The flights from New York to Los Angeles are likely longer than the flights from Mexico to Canada. Mexico City to Montreal is a 5 hour flight. It obviously would take a long time if teams were flying commercial and had to connect, but they'll charter planes and go direct.
i just hope the planes can fly high enough to clear the wall
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:51 am
by Nexus
COME ON ENGLAND
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:10 pm
by BROseidon
In post 68, zoraster wrote:I wonder how they'll handle the altitude of Mexico city and to a lesser extent Denver. It's not a problem really if it's consistent through the group, but given Mexico has 3 host cities and only 10 matches, it's likely Mexico city only gets 1 round of a group, which makes that game pretty different than the other games in Houston or whatever.
tbf Houston and Orlando will also be garbage to play in for different reasons. Teams are going to be playing in 100% humidity and dying.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:12 pm
by BROseidon
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:49 am
by BROseidon
Uruguay individually looked really good, but their play in the final third was very lacking in creativity until the end of the game (and they won on a set piece, which isn't that weird with how much more athletic/tall their CB pairing was that Egypt)
They'll coast out of this group in first, but they need to get their shit together for the knockout round
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:19 am
by profii
Nacho right
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:53 am
by Nosferatu
wild ride from start to finish
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:59 am
by Faraday
In post 89, BROseidon wrote:Uruguay individually looked really good, but their play in the final third was very lacking in creativity until the end of the game (and they won on a set piece, which isn't that weird with how much more athletic/tall their CB pairing was that Egypt)
They'll coast out of this group in first, but they need to get their shit together for the knockout round
egypt defended pretty well and made themselves hard to break down, tbf.
but yeah, i don't really know if uruguay played well individually either? like suarez def should have scored/didn't look really good and i thought the uruguay midfield had terrible final ball even when they did get decent positions.
they'll probably play better against teams not designed to prevent them from playing, though.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:00 am
by Faraday
some real bad errors aside, that was a great game played at a pretty high level. real fun to watch
also referees have been p good so far imo
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:48 pm
by BROseidon
In post 92, Faraday wrote: In post 89, BROseidon wrote:Uruguay individually looked really good, but their play in the final third was very lacking in creativity until the end of the game (and they won on a set piece, which isn't that weird with how much more athletic/tall their CB pairing was that Egypt)
They'll coast out of this group in first, but they need to get their shit together for the knockout round
egypt defended pretty well and made themselves hard to break down, tbf.
but yeah, i don't really know if uruguay played well individually either? like suarez def should have scored/didn't look really good and i thought the uruguay midfield had terrible final ball even when they did get decent positions.
they'll probably play better against teams not designed to prevent them from playing, though.
Suarez was bad. Cavani and the CB pairing were insane. Midfield was fine, but lacking in creative ideas.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:30 pm
by Drench
so proud of Our Boys for not getting scored against by france for the ENTIRE first third
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm
by Aristophanes
there's a game this early?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:47 pm
by Drench
THE ENTIRE FIRST HALF
incredible stuff
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:58 pm
by PJ.
And this is why you'll never be as rich as FIFA
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:04 am
by N
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